Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hasn2009]

It is surprising Tulsi Gabbard took this long to resign. Rumors were rife when her good friend Joe Kent resigned that Tulsi too was resigning. While her excuse maybe her husband health, many will connect her resignation to the sinking ship of the war on Iran. She, Rubio, and Vance are not supportive of this war. A bad war can sink future chances: Look at Hillary's support for the Iraq War 2003 and Obama's opposition to that war.

About the war opposition part, Tulsi and Vance, may be, but Rubio is a cold blooded war neocon, just see what he has been saying about Iran pre 2026. His current public opinion may look different right now because he doesn't want to carry the burden of this foolish illegal war in his possible candidacy in next U.S. presidential elections.

 

[hasn2009]

Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one. US suffered some losses but they are not more than a pinprick compared to the massive arsenal it has.

And in actuality many Americans are against this war including myself. Doesn't mean I'm going to dilute the truth any.

May the force be with you

True, US didn't suffer any noticeable losses, but their reputation as invincible power did suffer, and so did their ability to project power because of losing the ability to freely operate the military bases in M.E area because of constant Iranian barrages. And they also burned through high number of their offensive and defensive stockpiles which may take years to replenish.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[925boy]

As I said earlier, SMDA is a purely defensive pact. Pakistani forces stationed in KSA won't be venturing into Yemen or Iraq.

Ok

So you are misunderstanding the front. They'll be defending KSA.

Sure

You really think some rag tag militants are gonna successfully venture in KSA when 2 squadrons of JF17s and thousands of Pakistani troops are present?

Tell us how that has gone against the Taliban so far. Determined and skilled guerilla fighters can damage your army, do not be overconfident for no good reason.

 

[kobra]

Attack is near!!!

 

[kobra]

Iranian airspace partial closed, Gps interference reported as well in region.. we are near

 

[KAL-EL]

True, US didn't suffer any noticeable losses, but their reputation as invincible power did suffer, and so did their ability to project power because of losing the ability to freely operate the military bases in M.E area because of constant Iranian barrages. And they also burned through high number of their offensive and defensive stockpiles which may take years to replenish.

Well that's something different. I was just merely pointing out that The US didn't suffer any very noticeable losses

Everything else you get into I never mentioned at all. It was purely assets. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[RocketLaw]

 

[Falcon29]

Mixed reports :

 

[925boy]

The only option is for the states of the middle east to enter non aggression pacts that remove foreign bases and a promise is made not to attack each other's countries

Well Iran has started removing the foreign bases in the region, and because the blockhead weak GCC didn't enact the non aggression pact earlier with Iran, they'll now have hard choices to make, because some will have to submit to Iranian instructions, especially with the SOH choked off.

The Iran -saudi detent and relationship is vital going forward, the quicker Arabs and Iranians can get over their destructive rivalry the better

After successfully knocking US and the GCC down in round 1, Iran doesn't have to enter any detente or make compromising conssioms to the Saudia and gcc- it already has the upper hands and will set the tone, as it's already doing with the PGSA. Iran has partially decimated it's gulf rivals. Big egos and being pets of the Zs won't save Sunni Islam in the gulf anymore.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

A logical take. I would add that it is perfectly reasonable for Pakistan to exert its influence in this way, and moreover, it is also partly an inevitable reaction to Delhi's hostile manoeuvring in the region over a few decades now. Pakistan was going to demonstrate its strength here sooner or later.

Rather than any party taking some form of affront to this, it is far more mutually beneficial for Saudis, Iranians and others to forge a path forwards alongside Pakistan. Iran's leaders certainly are very receptive and cordial towards Pakistan's representatives. That level of trust must have been genuinely earned somewhere along the way.

I agree with your point of view.

Because the United States and Israel have repeatedly attacked their opponents unexpectedly during negotiations, there is serious distrust between the United States and Iran. They need a country that both sides trust to act as a mediator.

This country can only be Pakistan.

 

[925boy]

BBC News 24 - Donald Trump will not attend his sons wedding but remain in Washington this weekend.

Trump says he will miss son’s wedding to stay in DC during ‘important time’

US president previously said he would ‘try and make’ Donald Trump Jr’s nuptials but timing is ‘not good’ for him

www.theguardian.com

Trump Won’t Attend Don Jr.’s Wedding Over ‘Circumstances Pertaining To Government’

The president had suggested Thursday he may not attend the wedding because of “Iran and other things.”

www.forbes.com

This to me is one of the strongest indications that US is actually planning some sort of military operation, likely against Iran, but slight chance it's another country.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[925boy]

Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one. US suffered some losses but they are not more than a pinprick compared to the massive arsenal it has.

And in actuality many Americans are against this war including myself. Doesn't mean I'm going to dilute the truth any.

May the force be with you

Thanks for indirectly accepting you couldnt counter my point.

Wtf is an "I'm sorry I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one"? That sounds like you can't counter my point but you still want to look right.

US lost round 1 vs iran- that is the hard fact buddy. Nothing will change that and that bad performance has set US up to have further dissapointment of it continues it's strikes against Iran. I'm just being realistic and objective.

 

[925boy]

I'll just repeat myself one more time. This has nothing to do with the US losing strategically. It was in fact little more than a pin prick compared to the massive Air Force arsenal and other things the US has.

I'm not going to dwell on what the future losses might be because I'm not a fortune teller

There is no truth to hide here regarding this specific thing. No sense in continuing because we're going around and around in circles

Ok, the US's losses of military aircraft might've been a "pin prick",but the ammunition losses US incurred in this short clash almost emptied the reserves of the US army, which is a disaster and is why US lost its stamina to fight in just a little over a month- a super power only in propaganda. US army went full coward on Iran, unbelievable!