Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Michael]

Nobody can enforce the US to honor its side of the deal, and Iran certainly isn’t going to restart attacking US bases because of sanctions. Looks like we’re back to square one but with a new leadership in Iran. What do you guys think?

In international confrontation and competition, there are no rules; it's a naked jungle law. So-called agreements are merely a halftime break. Everyone makes slight adjustments and then continues!

For Iran, the truly meaningful thing is how to use this brief respite to adjust itself. Facts have already proven that Khamenei is indeed an outstanding leader. What kind of policy adjustments can be made in the post-Khamenei era? That remains a question. ------ But how much time can the outside world give Iran?

 

[Arash]

Very happy Modi

She meets her fatherland

 

[Jagga Badmash]

She meets her fatherland

Or ex-Husband / Boy friend?

 

[Al-Zakir]

 

[IceCold]

I genuinely believe that Qatar is the main architect of the deal, as it was in the 2015 deal. The draft is a little updated.
Though Pak didn't break a deal, it helped establish the first ceasefire and act as a messenger. Still, not a small feat.

The issue is why Qatar hosting US navy 5th fleet and other assets and allowing it's territory to be used to attack Iran. Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Jordan, even SaudiArabia, they all allowed their territory to be used against Iran, while Pakistan did not. That makes our role as peace mediators much more acceptable then any of these countries.
The thing I didn't understand or liked was on Iran's desire to sign the accord in Geneva then Islamabad.

 

[sutton9999]

It is a gift Trump wrapped up for brithday, himself and the USA.
The tone will change in 2 months.

 

[Flotilla]

The whole purpose of overthrowing Assad in Syria with the help of Turkey and Russia was to cut our supply lines to Hezbollah and the so-called Axis of Resistance. I like your optimism though.

You cannot deny that Hizbollah is getting more and much more advanced FPV drones, they started with small Chinese radio FPV and they using right now long range wire guided ones and in last two weeks, even with IR cameras. So anyone is giving them a lot of stuff.

So if overthrowing Assad was to cutting supply lines, someone must resign.

 

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[Persian Gulf]

 

[Lulldapull]

Soviet Union's ICBMs were civilisation enders too. Didn't help much in the end.

Only poor/ lower caste people believe nowadays that nukes are the ultimate answer to mankind's political dramay/ third world idiocy/ shit-hole existence and whatnot.

Reality is that using nukes (today).......means suicide.

 

[Flotilla]

Nobody can enforce the US to honor its side of the deal, and Iran certainly isn’t going to restart attacking US bases because of sanctions. Looks like we’re back to square one but with a new leadership in Iran. What do you guys think?

You should be more optimistic.
During this 60 days Irán will assemble a lot of missiles, replace part of destroyed Air defenses and collect a huge amount of cash. And with cash the rest will come. Air force should be second after re-stocking the missile inventory.
Anyway it is easier to replace 10 missiles than a long range fix radar in Qatar or Emirates or Kuwait.

 

[BananaRepublic]

It will be a fragile “deal” and could collapse anytime.
We have to wait and see. All this money flow to iran, we’ll see if it changes geopolitics of iran…..

But i would expect wars to happen anyway, specially in mideast due to israel wanting to expand its territory.

The evil zionists are not going to stop their nefarious plans against the muslim countries, lebanon, Palestine etc…..the Muslims need to prepare for next battles

You guys aren’t seeing the positives:

1. Israel and USA not only failed to trigger a civil war in Iran but failed to start a war amongst Muslim countries.

2. Ordinary Muslims, across the globe, are more united than they’ve been for 300 years.

3. Despite our problems - Muslims have NOT butchered each other in the way Europeans did over two world wars, Russians and Chinese did over communism.

And it’s still the only religion where all adherents go to one place to pray.

 

[GatlingGunZ]

Only poor/ lower caste people believe nowadays that nukes are the ultimate answer to mankind's political dramay/ third world idiocy/ shit-hole existence and whatnot.

Reality is that using nukes (today).......means suicide.

Fully agree on it , chicha. You would be amazed to see the amount of suicidal nuclear threats by Pk members on IWT thread. They don't understand ruling elites don't carry the heart to press the red button

 

[PakistanLVR]

Only poor/ lower caste people believe nowadays that nukes are the ultimate answer to mankind's political dramay/ third world idiocy/ shit-hole existence and whatnot.

Reality is that using nukes (today).......means suicide.

It’s the ultimate guarantor that a nation doesn’t get bombed and invaded.

Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Lybia, and Iran did not have nukes and were attacked/occupied/dismembered.

Then you have Israel, North Korea, and Pakistan. Iran pulled its punches on Israel initially because of the nuclear umbrella. Even Egypt and Syria did the same in the 1973 war.
Pakistan’s NASR tactical nuke doctrine made India’s cold start doctrine obsolete overnight (and this was based off U.S. doctrine against a massive Soviet force during the Cold War in Germany).
North Korea is sitting pretty where virtually South Korea, Japan, and the U.S. just pretend it doesn’t exist.

You’re too hyped up with whatever Iran just accomplished to disregard such a powerful weapon that the U.S. has tried multiple ways to get Iran to give up its enrichment. If it wasn’t an ultimate insurance policy then why did the US literally gone to war to make sure hostile countries never achieve this threshold.
No one would’ve think twice about attacking Iran had Iran achieved a successful nuke program. Just a silly thing to discount such a powerful weapons that provides so much upside.

Fully agree on it , chicha. You would be amazed to see the amount of suicidal nuclear threats by Pk members on IWT thread. They don't understand ruling elites don't carry the heart to press the red button

Typical Indian mentality - greatly underestimates everyone else and overestimate itself.
Pakistans nukes aren’t for display only. They won’t be used the first day as its conventional capabilities are there to wage an intense war. It’s military operational ready with Chinese supply chain at its disposal. In case of impending defeat, those nukes will be used (hopefully on areas with majority Hindu majority across India). We are headed. Continue with your bob n vagene thinking that the Pakistan didn’t use its nukes on day 1 on last years conflict as some form of silver bullet Rajesh found against Pakistans very potent nuclear doctrine. It will be the biggest FAFO moment in the worlds history.

 

[Meengla]

still abit optimistic to make such claims



But that even Vance now calls out "The Lobby that wants to push us against Iran" and "People should resist them" should make the Israelis very worried.

Keep posting such things!!
Indeed, there is a meltdown in Israel and in Israel Firsters of America.