Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Financial Times is also deeply disappointed lol and has gone back to to prewar propaganda lines. Iran "thinks" it won the war.

Iran’s government thinks it has won the war​

The Islamic republic faced devastating losses during the conflict, but the regime has gained in confidence


Not only did Iran win the war but the more important point it demonstrated to the region is that you don't have to kowtow and whimper in front of the US/Israel. They are beatable if you are smart enough and strong enough.
 
VCheng said:
So these are your views and you have the right to hold such views.

But they have a sovereign right to determine their own courses of action too, whether you agree with them or not.
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Sure they have a sovereign right

But what they were traditionally afraid of, was 93 million strong Iran as a big as Europe on their doorstep dominating them

Their hedge against this was obtaining U.S support, bases and weapons to counter Iran

This rivalry was used by the Zionists


However, the U.S has been useless
It's weapons overpriced and countered via drones and missiles

The U.S making strategic and political decisions to the benefit of the Zionists and cost of multiple GCC states

Major economic hits due to U.S stupidity,



The GCC can still continue to make independent decisions, but the war has cleared their minds
Iran is the dominant state in the region
Iran can decimate their economies
The U.S and west can't protect them
Iran can shut the Hormuz at will

If the GCC wants to protect their states and economies, the ONLY path is friendship will Iran and a new security situation where it gets support from friendly states who aren't likely to throw the GCC under the big for the Zionists



Hormuz has done to the American empire
What Suez did to the British empire
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Premature ejaculations, err....celebrations, seem to be a thing with some of the folks here.
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Suggest you consult a doctor about that issue, not really for this forum.
Your Orange idiot seems to have the same problem, how many times has he declared victory without anything to show for it?
 
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hussain0216 said:
Iran is the dominant state in the region
Iran can decimate their economies
The U.S and west can't protect them
Iran can shut the Hormuz at will

If the GCC wants to protect their states and economies, the ONLY path is friendship will Iran and a new security situation where it gets support from friendly states who aren't likely to throw the GCC under the big for the Zionists



Hormuz has done to the American empire
What Suez did to the British empire
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Let us take this up when the MoU and final agreement process is complete.
 
The below article is probably the best and most balanced. Gulf states were deeply shocked by the American Israeli failure in Iran war and are moving from confrontation to accommodation with Iran.


If Iran can have the maturity to build a fresh relationship with Turkey, Pakistan, China and enough of the GCC, it will be able to mitigate the future Israeli American threat in a very large way. Contrary to absurd military spending around the world, most geopolitical problems do not have military solutions.
 
BonPlan said:
They are able to produce their own MBT, their own SAM and anti missile systems (among the best of the world if not the best).
They were ready to produce their own fighter (Lavi) until USA, seeing a harsh competitor, give them full access to their fighters.
So don't worry for them.
Israel has nothing to demonstrate about their ability to fight.

(note that their opponents, of the past and of the present, are armed by russia, china, iran)
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‘There own’ but with how much US content / help / finance? Wasn’t even Lavi US financed until they pulled the plug? US itself has stated that it shares tech so openly with Israel that it’s hard to tell what is US and what is Israeli.
Incidentally do all French people love the genocidal Israeli’s so much, I thought that was just Indian’s?
 
VCheng said:
Let us take this up when the MoU and final agreement process is complete.
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Mou or no Mou

Reality is doing it's magic

The U.S is just as murderous and barbarous as the Zionists

They have no qualms about spending months/years bombing Iran and killing millions

What's stopped them isn't lack of intent, it's the fact that Iran can hit back
The massive economic fallout that now risks causing a worldwide economic crisis and badly hurting the U.S

Their own hubris led them to this point
 
hussain0216 said:
What's stopped them isn't lack of intent, it's the fact that Iran can hit back
The massive economic fallout that now risks causing a worldwide economic crisis and badly hurting the U.S
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Wait and see, my brother. Wait. And. See.
 
TAC said:
Suggest you consult a doctor about that issue, not really for this forum.
Your Orange idiot seems to have the same problem, how many times has he declared victory without anything to show for it?
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I'm quite fine but appreciate your concern. Some of the younger crowd here though does have an inclination to react before all facts are known.

As a nation, we do have a habit of "Mission Accomplished" or "Peace with honor". I'll admit that.

Am glad I've earned my right to be cynical.
 
Meengla said:
Well, Trump himself just said that!
But how insulted the Israelis must feel these days. Trump is heaping insults upon insults on them and they are going viral and the world is laughing. Laughing!
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Trump didnt say Israel might not exist he actually stated the truth which is unusual he said Israel wouldnt exist without American
 
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