Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

It would be foolish for Iran not to develop nukes.

IF Iran has already won this war, as many claim, then it will have no problem making one quickly. When can we expect the Big Bang Party?

 

[hussain0216]

So these are your views and you have the right to hold such views.

But they have a sovereign right to determine their own courses of action too, whether you agree with them or not.

Sure they have a sovereign right

But what they were traditionally afraid of, was 93 million strong Iran as a big as Europe on their doorstep dominating them

Their hedge against this was obtaining U.S support, bases and weapons to counter Iran

This rivalry was used by the Zionists


However, the U.S has been useless
It's weapons overpriced and countered via drones and missiles

The U.S making strategic and political decisions to the benefit of the Zionists and cost of multiple GCC states

Major economic hits due to U.S stupidity,



The GCC can still continue to make independent decisions, but the war has cleared their minds
Iran is the dominant state in the region
Iran can decimate their economies
The U.S and west can't protect them
Iran can shut the Hormuz at will

If the GCC wants to protect their states and economies, the ONLY path is friendship will Iran and a new security situation where it gets support from friendly states who aren't likely to throw the GCC under the big for the Zionists



Hormuz has done to the American empire
What Suez did to the British empire

 

[TAC]

Premature ejaculations, err....celebrations, seem to be a thing with some of the folks here.

Suggest you consult a doctor about that issue, not really for this forum.
Your Orange idiot seems to have the same problem, how many times has he declared victory without anything to show for it?

 

[Starlord]

I am expecting some Epstein files getting leak soon.

 

[VCheng]

Iran is the dominant state in the region
Iran can decimate their economies
The U.S and west can't protect them
Iran can shut the Hormuz at will

If the GCC wants to protect their states and economies, the ONLY path is friendship will Iran and a new security situation where it gets support from friendly states who aren't likely to throw the GCC under the big for the Zionists



Hormuz has done to the American empire
What Suez did to the British empire

Let us take this up when the MoU and final agreement process is complete.

 

[Watandar]

The below article is probably the best and most balanced. Gulf states were deeply shocked by the American Israeli failure in Iran war and are moving from confrontation to accommodation with Iran.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gulf-recalibrates-iran-emerges-intact-war-2026-06-15/

If Iran can have the maturity to build a fresh relationship with Turkey, Pakistan, China and enough of the GCC, it will be able to mitigate the future Israeli American threat in a very large way. Contrary to absurd military spending around the world, most geopolitical problems do not have military solutions.

 

[TAC]

They are able to produce their own MBT, their own SAM and anti missile systems (among the best of the world if not the best).
They were ready to produce their own fighter (Lavi) until USA, seeing a harsh competitor, give them full access to their fighters.
So don't worry for them.
Israel has nothing to demonstrate about their ability to fight.

(note that their opponents, of the past and of the present, are armed by russia, china, iran)

‘There own’ but with how much US content / help / finance? Wasn’t even Lavi US financed until they pulled the plug? US itself has stated that it shares tech so openly with Israel that it’s hard to tell what is US and what is Israeli.
Incidentally do all French people love the genocidal Israeli’s so much, I thought that was just Indian’s?

 

[Watandar]

US releases MoU with Iran

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/17/middleeast/us-iran-war-mou-text-intl

 

[Ali_Baba]

US releases MoU with Iran

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/17/middleeast/us-iran-war-mou-text-intl

Lebanon is there if this report is true.

 

[tsunset]

Pahlavi Degenerates booing Iran during New Zealand-Iran football match identified and their assets to be frozen soon

 

[hussain0216]

Let us take this up when the MoU and final agreement process is complete.

Mou or no Mou

Reality is doing it's magic

The U.S is just as murderous and barbarous as the Zionists

They have no qualms about spending months/years bombing Iran and killing millions

What's stopped them isn't lack of intent, it's the fact that Iran can hit back
The massive economic fallout that now risks causing a worldwide economic crisis and badly hurting the U.S

Their own hubris led them to this point

 

[VCheng]

What's stopped them isn't lack of intent, it's the fact that Iran can hit back
The massive economic fallout that now risks causing a worldwide economic crisis and badly hurting the U.S

Wait and see, my brother. Wait. And. See.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Suggest you consult a doctor about that issue, not really for this forum.
Your Orange idiot seems to have the same problem, how many times has he declared victory without anything to show for it?

I'm quite fine but appreciate your concern. Some of the younger crowd here though does have an inclination to react before all facts are known.

As a nation, we do have a habit of "Mission Accomplished" or "Peace with honor". I'll admit that.

Am glad I've earned my right to be cynical.

 

[Aryan_B]

Well, Trump himself just said that!
But how insulted the Israelis must feel these days. Trump is heaping insults upon insults on them and they are going viral and the world is laughing. Laughing!

Trump didnt say Israel might not exist he actually stated the truth which is unusual he said Israel wouldnt exist without American

 

[krash]

Something tells me that you didn't read the links that I shared. The new middle east was proposed in that document which included Mileikowsky. All the subsequent wars and destabilization even the vaunted Abraham Accords! By proposing "peace for peace" later coined a book under the same name by another author.
"You didn't go looking for trouble, it was looking for you!"

The motive is same... destabilize mideast and become the regional hegemon. This war had been coming for ages... yet on this very thread there are those who're alluding to the great offense taken by people who couldn't bear to hear the chant in Iranian streets of "Marg bar Amrika"... mind you most Americans would have trouble locating Iran on the map less translating their chants in rallies of defiance.

You're missing the point again. We have no disagreement with regards to the Israeli ambitions. What I am trying to point you towards is the Iranian methodology against it.

The Iranian MO came into effect long before these papers and absolutely must have played a roll in their formulation. Israel has had other countries in its aim since before 47 but still cannot yet overtly target them because they haven't been jumping up and down every chance they get to antagonize their relations with the de facto rulers of the world. Iran could've been like them, affording it better opportunities and more time to prepare for the eventuality. Even if these Israeli aims predate the Iranian MO and this war would always have begun exactly when it did, do you not agree that an unsanctioned Iran since 1979, however unsupported by the West it may have been, would have put on a better display today? Iran "didn't even try conventional parity" because it had no way to. Had it played it smarter then it could have. Most probably would've been stronger than Pakistan and Turkey or as rich and oblivious as the Gulfies, given its resources.