Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[TAC]

The steps that need to be taken on both sides, to ensure that commitments made (for example, about fissile materials) are kept, and stepwise release of funds for each such step completed successfully, are yet to be defined.

That’s not what I meant - point I’m making is even at best these ‘mechanisms’ achieve nothing more than what you already had with the Obama Accord. Now go weigh that up against what Iran will get as a result of this MOU.

 

[FUB]

IRAN HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF.

 

[Arash]

• 100B+ of Iranian frozen funds unlocking
• Oil and energy selling free of sanctions on day 1 to ANY country not just China.
• 300B reconstruction fund for companies and countries to invest in projects inside Iran
• Fees on ships bringing in another $10B a year
• Possible small scale enrichment capability
• UN Security Council endorsement
• Missile and proxy not for discussion

I mean the deal still needs to be signed and the fine print read, but if this happens hard to see how Iran could have gotten a better deal.

It seems Mojtaba and Qalibaf want to focus on rebuilding the economy and reconnecting with the world and deepening ties with China over being a hermit kingdom like North Korea.

That is basically the approach I said Iran should take. Rebuild its economy and military for 10-20 years and just pause nuclear development if there is no appetite for a dash for the bomb (which under Mojtaba doesn’t appear to be).

With a stronger more open economy you will have less corruption, less riots, less spies, and more money to pour in military R&D projects that can make a difference at building deterrence (stronger missiles, Drones, and cruise missiles).

Who knows in 10-20 years America could be severely weak and in state of chaos or decay and then Iran can do whatever it wants with respect to nuclear program.

No one knows what the future can bring.

Strait of hormuz fees will make around 50 billion / year at least

 

[krash]

Since @AZ_HighCountry has already written a comprehensive post about it, I'm not going to reiterate what he has said but even as of today, Pakistan does not have direct flights to New York City, let alone in the 70s.
Even as of today, PIA flies to 28 international destinations. I wonder how you flew to 40 international destinations in 1978. Also, Iran Air and Iran Airtour were different air lines. So, the fleet size of Iran Air (~30) was only for international flights, while Iran Airtour operated its own fleet for local tours inside Iran. Iran Air alone operated 30 something aircraft by the end of 70s. Even as of today, PIA operates 35 aircraft per Wikipedia. Apples and oranges.

Google the same question abut PIA instead of posting childish arguments.


How did PIA compare with the world's top airlines in the 1970s in terms of service, comfort, and reliability?

In the 1970s, Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) was widely considered a premier, world-class carrier, boasting a reputation and operational standard comparable to today’s luxury airlines. It set industry benchmarks rather than just following them. [1, 2, 3]

Service

• Trendsetting Hospitality: PIA was celebrated for its lavish in-flight hospitality, featuring cultural immersion, gourmet meals, and highly trained cabin crew.
• Innovations: The airline was a pioneer in introducing in-flight entertainment systems long before many of its western counterparts.
• Global Reputation: Its exceptional charm and elegance were famously praised by international jet-setters and dignitaries. [1, 2]

Comfort

• Modern Fleet: PIA boasted a highly modern and state-of-the-art fleet. They were the first Asian airline to commercially operate the iconic Boeing 707 and actively flew wide-body aircraft like the Douglas DC-10-30 on key international routes. [1, 2, 3]
• Global Reach: Because restricted airspace over Russia and China forced long-haul carriers to make technical stops, Karachi Airport operated as a bustling, cosmopolitan hub for passengers traveling east and west. [1]

Reliability

• Industry Experts: During this golden era, PIA was highly reliable and operationally proficient. In fact, the airline was so highly regarded that it was tapped to provide technical, operational, and pilot training assistance to emerging carriers, playing a foundational role in the early development of Emirates. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

 

[ShapurII]

Google the same question abut PIA instead of posting childish arguments.


How did PIA compare with the world's top airlines in the 1970s in terms of service, comfort, and reliability?

In the 1970s, Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) was widely considered a premier, world-class carrier, boasting a reputation and operational standard comparable to today’s luxury airlines. It set industry benchmarks rather than just following them. [1, 2, 3]

Service

• Trendsetting Hospitality: PIA was celebrated for its lavish in-flight hospitality, featuring cultural immersion, gourmet meals, and highly trained cabin crew.
• Innovations: The airline was a pioneer in introducing in-flight entertainment systems long before many of its western counterparts.
• Global Reputation: Its exceptional charm and elegance were famously praised by international jet-setters and dignitaries. [1, 2]

Comfort

• Modern Fleet: PIA boasted a highly modern and state-of-the-art fleet. They were the first Asian airline to commercially operate the iconic Boeing 707 and actively flew wide-body aircraft like the Douglas DC-10-30 on key international routes. [1, 2, 3]
• Global Reach: Because restricted airspace over Russia and China forced long-haul carriers to make technical stops, Karachi Airport operated as a bustling, cosmopolitan hub for passengers traveling east and west. [1]

Reliability

• Industry Experts: During this golden era, PIA was highly reliable and operationally proficient. In fact, the airline was so highly regarded that it was tapped to provide technical, operational, and pilot training assistance to emerging carriers, playing a foundational role in the early development of Emirates. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

AI slop. It doesn't address any of the things I said, neither does it back up any of his claims.

 

[Master Chief]

I am very happy for you to be able to make that conclusion so early, Sir. I have absolutely no problem with that at all, if that is what you must think.

Imagine asking your stockbroker if you should go long or short on oil....and the dude just smiles wryly and says "time will tell".

 

[Arash]

The French do know a thing or two about signing bad deals, don't they?

Forget French média. You look once at the president and its fucked up administration then you know there's nothing serious to hope for there........

 

[Arash]

Idiots....... desperate idiots....

 

[Arash]

Iran should excavate whatever junk is in and under the tomb of Esther and send it in trash cans to Israel...

 

[ShapurII]

Iran should excavate whatever junk is in and under the tomb of Esther and send it in trash cans to Israel...

I don't get why the tomb of Esther even exists in Iran. We should bulldoze it for good. She conspired against our establishment and is responsible for the massacre of our soldiers.

 

[krash]

AI slop. It doesn't address any of the things I said, neither does it back up any of his claims.

It's the same question asked from the same AI about PIA that @AZ_HighCountry had asked about Iran Air, the same "comprehensive post" you were touting. And it has sources.

Your questions are idiotic. PIA has fallen, that's the answer. But then, Iran Air has fallen further. PIA did fly direct to New York. Everything can be easily googled, you petulant child.

 

[Meengla]

IRAN HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF.

Coming to the defense of his President now that some opportunist Democratic Congressmen are criticizing the agreement on a war the Dems were opposing.
Politicians!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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It's the same question asked from the same AI about PIA that @AZ_HighCountry had asked about Iran Air, the same "comprehensive post" you were touting.

Your questions are stupid. PIA has fallen, that's the answer. And Iran Air has fallen further. PIA did fly direct to New York. Everything can be easily googled, you petulant child.

Some of you guys may want these:

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Forget French média. You look once at the president and its fucked up administration then you know there's nothing serious to hope for there........

Unlike you, I feel much better now that I've given up all hope.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

This probably the actual thinking over at the American thread. Delusional and dumb, just like the president.

I pepper that one with sarcasm as well. It helps me cope with the reality that many here passionately avoid.