Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Yasser76]

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Keep eyes on this flight over the next few hours. If Saudis forcibly try to intercept it then all hell could break loose.

This is an Iranian plane, we should already be making very clear to Saudis that any attempt to interfere with it will be seen as an attack on Iran and lead to an instant and disproportionate military response on Riyadh.

The fact the Saudis let it through surely indicates they have no plan to interfer in it's return journey?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iranian official are divided in this matter ...
If they want fight , they should fight without thought of tomorrow

This is going to be a long long war. Iran should fight this with intelligence and not emotion. There is a lot of Iranians who are emotional(and rightly so!!!!) and want a like for like thinking that is the correct approach to the war. The purpose and strategy (imho) is not to respond on a 1:1 basis as that will exhaust Iran's resources, and that strategy will cause Iran to fail this war in the long run as the USA has unlimited resources and Iran's are limited due to sanctions(this is a reality..) and economy.

The purpose is to understand there is a strategic chessboard here, where the current stage is now is on "who controls the straits". The Americans want to remove Iran's control of the straits. Iran, needs to maintain that control at minimum cost in this stage, so that for the next stage of this strategic war, Iran still has resources to fight that next stage. Iran should do what it is doing, i.e. cause global economic chaos to force pressure on the world, and selectively and surgically take out parts of the USA infrastructure in the region with each round and stop USA's attempts to exert control over the straits. Iran will take some heavy blows, but that is the reality of the asymmetry and despite the visuals and optics, Iran is still winning the battle of "who controls the straits".

Once Iran wins this battle, the Americans may attempt to come back with another battle, ie a land invasion of some sort.

I do think the core Iranian war fighting military strategists of this war are being far more cold, calculating and clinical in their decisions and this is massively frustrating the USA right now and the civilian strikes are a reflection of that.

This is game theory of war, at its extreme that we are witnessing.

Iran is not getting trapped in the theatrics of war that some here want, but more objective based.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Saudi backed Aden regime threatens to “deal with” the Iranian plane to Sana’a

 

[Ali_Baba]

A time may come--and perhaps coming very soon--that all the wishy washiness in Iran goes away and they go for the broke and start an all out war--a regional war--with possibly mobilization of tens of millions of Iranians into Iraq and toward Israel, along with the allies in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon.
That's how I see Iran is going to wage the ultimate war for its survival as a sovereign nation. Iran has a large, resilient, and motivated population for a land war.

I can see Iran wage a land war, into Iraq if the Americans use the Kurds to attempt to invade Iran to liberate Iraq from the USA occupation as the ongoing USA occupation poses a significant threat to Iran.

They may struggle without airpower though.

 

[RocketLaw]

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[Pakistan First]

Increasingly so this whole situation seems like it will now be the status quo and a Russia-Ukraine like situation. No full scale war but no peace either. Iran can wait this thing out, the GCC and the West cannot...

Actually its equally painful for Iran if not more. If US puts a blockade back then Iran cannot sell the oil. It was selling considerable amounts to China previously.

In GCC, the UAE sold the record oil in last month. Its now completely using alternate route (via pipelines). Its not using SOH at all. KSA also has alternate pipeline route available. Oman is already outside SOH. Yeah you can punish Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq and Qatar. But US hardly cares about those countries anymore.

UAE’s Oil Output Hit Record High in June, IEA Says

(Bloomberg) -- The United Arab Emirates boosted crude oil production to an all-time high last month, the most compelling evidence yet of how Abu Dhabi responded more boldly than any of its Persian Gulf neighbors to disruption caused by the Iran war.Most Read from BloombergMicrosoft’s Xbox to...

finance.yahoo.com

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/uae-exports-record-oil-volumes-after-opec-exit-ship-tracking-data-shows-2026-06-30/

 

[Ali_Baba]

I hope the Iranians just send out their welcome mat to the Israelis and just bomb the hell out of gurion with repeated waves they’re going to join soon probably next 24 hours or less if these military planes are flying out of Israel than the Iranians have to go all in first before they do it

Given how concentrated the USA presence in Ben Gurion is right now, you have to assume that a coordinated strike should be able to take out a couple of air refuellers, right? Do a mass strike of cluster bomblet based missiles. Large aircraft don't need much to go bye bye.

 

[Yasser76]

Actually its equally painful for Iran if not more. If US puts a blockade back then Iran cannot sell the oil. It was selling considerable amounts to China previously.

In GCC, the UAE sold the record oil in last month. Its now completely using alternate route (via pipelines). Its not using SOH at all. KSA also has alternate pipeline route available. Oman is already outside SOH. Yeah you can punish Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq and Qatar. But US hardly cares about those countries anymore.

UAE’s Oil Output Hit Record High in June, IEA Says

(Bloomberg) -- The United Arab Emirates boosted crude oil production to an all-time high last month, the most compelling evidence yet of how Abu Dhabi responded more boldly than any of its Persian Gulf neighbors to disruption caused by the Iran war.Most Read from BloombergMicrosoft’s Xbox to...

finance.yahoo.com

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/uae-exports-record-oil-volumes-after-opec-exit-ship-tracking-data-shows-2026-06-30/

Yeah, good point, but this instability in not good for investment and tourism in the region. Something the Saudia, Qataris and Emiratis push hard for. Iran never had these so much less to lose on this front

 

[Yasser76]

Given how concentrated the USA presence in Ben Gurion is right now, you have to assume that a coordinated strike should be able to take out a couple of air refuellers, right? Do a mass strike of cluster bomblet based missiles. Large aircraft don't need much to go bye bye.

Yeah, why is Iran holding back on Israel?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Not that easy to take out an aircraft carrier assuming you would need dozens of usv to be able to do the job but first you have to reach said target that doesn’t need to be anywhere near the coast if Iran to operate same with missiles you have to be able to overwhelm those defenses and get close enough for multiple missiles to cause severe damage to the deck you don’t need to destroy the carrier you just need tear up the deck so badly that you take it out of commission…..again that’s if Iran can get those missiles within range and enough waves to do it they haven’t so far

Iran attempted this during the war, with multi-pronged attacks and a very very large number of ballistic missiles, and failed. Trump mentioned this on one of his rants. The USN has proven to be very effective at not getting hit, or sunk so far.

 

[tsunset]

Iran should bomb the US bases with Su-24 and score kills

They don't have air defenses anymore

 

[Persian Gulf]

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IRI is silent about this, unbelievable

Should have 50 SRBMs aimed at ARAMCO facilities ready to launch as soon as Saudi tries to interfere with this Iranian flight. But obviously we are too passive and slow for such forward thinking and planning.

 

[RescueRanger]

The US are flying in further air refuelers to relive the ones currently in operation: An outbound coronet of x 7 refuelers was delayed due to a technical fault developing on one of the tankers a KC-46A Callsign: Bora 95


Pictured here in the US on the July 11th:

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The remaining coronet likely departed on time: This coronet is normally supporting F22 fighters moving (East) into CENTCOM AOR from Langley AFB(USA).

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Despite promising infrastructure for infrastructure strikes, the IRI is currently too weak and cowardly to enforce this threat.

 

[Flotilla]

I can see Iran wage a land war, into Iraq if the Americans use the Kurds to attempt to invade Iran to liberate Iraq from the USA occupation as the ongoing USA occupation poses a significant threat to Iran.

They may struggle without airpower though.

Those kurds are fools if they cooperate with US forces.

In just 20 years, US let in the roadside the North coalition of Aghanistan, the SDF in the north of syria and even saudis in Yemen during the air campaign.

Anyone believing US it is an ally is stupid or a child.