Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Aryan_B]

However, the excuse that Pakistan has a right to ask Iran for cheap oil after Pakistan refused to fulfill a signed contract citing the US sanctions is pretty annoying.

cheaper oil would have made pakistan more prepared to put up with american sanctions.

 

[ShapurII]

Of ocurse it can be set aside if there are terms in it that allow it

Cite those "terms" that allow it to be set aside then.

but i think they can be bought what you think US does pays Egypt 2 bill and what 500 mill a year to Jordan etc you think its free money lol

and saudi pay pakistan lol what are these payments?

Of course they can be bought, but not an auction where a country offers some money and the other side offers more lol

 

[Aryan_B]

Cite those "terms" that allow it to be set aside then.


Of course they can be bought, but not an auction where a country offers some money and the other side offers more lol

looks like it where I am sitting lol they can be subtle I suppose

 

[ShapurII]

cheaper oil would have made pakistan more prepared to put up with american sanctions.

lol Stop trolling, bro.

On a side note, there's no amount of oil that can save Pakistan from collapse if the US imposes sanctions on you like they did to Iran.

 

[Ravenman]

Why is it forbidden for a Iranian plane to land in Jemen?

 

[Aryan_B]

lol Stop trolling, bro.

On a side note, there's no amount of oil that can save Pakistan from collapse if the US imposes sanctions on you like they did to Iran.

But Pakistan had sanctions in 90s and they do so from time to time.

and our people burn american flags lol

 

[Watandar]

No, it cannot be "set aside" lmao It can be annulled by a court of law for misconduct or justified reasons, not unilaterally, citing US sanctions.

The point I am making is that Iran doesn't need to do anything for Pakistan. The fact that we have been kind enough to you not to sue you for billions of dollars is more than enough for you to appreciate our goodwill.

You paid the Emirates two billion dollars and you guys all cheered it as some great economic achievement. Now imagine you have to pay billions of dollars in reparations + interest.

Project was moot once Iran came under US sanctione and the USD was not available. Pakistan would have ended up in the same mess as Iran Iraq pipeline which the US disrupts as it pleases. Hence no scope for reparations as business could not be transacted.

 

[Bratva]

Brother from my phatichar understanding of Iranian military war-fighting doctrine, this is due to the very system they employ known as دفاعِ موزائیکی.

The Iranians studied the 2003 Iraq war and came to the conclusion that a unified centralized command authority is vulnerable to a direct attack or elimination by a highly organized enemy attack.

As Iran faces multiple threat actors, they developed this decentralized command doctrine with provincial independence, pre-delegated authorities and successor protocols to ensure the survival of the command and fighting force. It has worked out well for them.

So, I think it is unfair when people say Iran doesn't have a chain of command, it very much does, it's just not how traditionalists would envision a chain of command per say.

Just like any country you have different factions with different opinions on how things should be done, Iran is no different. As for one voice, even America can't seem to speak in unison these days...

The decentralized command makes perfect sense for wartime. But it becomes a hindrance and obstruction when it comes to conducting negotiations and honoring the terms of the negotiations.

 

[ShapurII]

But Pakistan had sanctions in 90s and they do so from time to time.

and our people burn american flags lol

Yeah, but rookie stuff. Not anything like what Iran is enduring now.

And we still burn American flags. Useless practice, by the way. We have burnt thousands of flags so far and nothing has happened to the Americans yet.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

You can't reason with boomers or change their mentality when it comes to technology or taking precautions.

There is a lot of empty talks being said in this thread...

Khamenei didn't live in bunkers because his people were not living in bunkers
It's as simple as that

 

[ShapurII]

Project was moot once Iran came under US sanctione and the USD was not available. Pakistan would have ended up in the same mess as Iran Iraq pipeline which the US disrupts as it pleases. Hence no scope for reparations or anything.

Moot or not, Pakistan has failed to honor its side of the deal. That means you have to pay reparations. Fear of US sanctions is not a legit reason for failing to observe your responsibilities in a signed contract.

 

[RescueRanger]

Moot or not, Pakistan has failed to honor its side of the deal. That means you have to pay reparations.

 

[Watandar]

Moot or not, Pakistan has failed to honor its side of the deal. That means you have to pay reparations.

There was no deal left to honor due to the sanctions regime imposed in Iran. Pakistan was also a loser as it was forced to keep buying more expensive energy from GCC. There was no violation by Pakistan and no scope for any reparations.

The only country still buying Iranian energy is China and it's doing it in defiance of sanctions and as part of its geopolitical calculations.

 

[ShapurII]

The decentralized command makes perfect sense for wartime. But it becomes a hindrance and obstruction when it comes to conducting negotiations and honoring the terms of the negotiations.

Don't believe this decentralized command nonsense.

Iran has always acted like this in the last 20 years. It's been one of the late Khamenei's legacies. One side pretends that they are against negotiations, the other side begs the West for negotiations.

It's for internal consumption. The regime wants to beg the West and keep its image intact internally.

 

[Immortals]

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