Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

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[BananaRepublic]

Yes, but after 200 years. I'll let you work that one out

Tell him you will if USA withdraws from all Muslim countries and stops killing anyone who defies the petro dollar.

 

[BananaRepublic]

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OMG!

Are people still predicting a land invasion lol

 

[krash]

You had nothing coherent to come up with... ground yourself first before making an argument.


Duh!
Iran shut down because it stopped the flow... it had the casus belli to do so because ...

Stopped the flow of what? It had the Casus belli, so? What's the point except you typing words to make it look like you have a point?

UNCLOS ALREADY allows 12 nautical miles of territorial waters. Hormuz is 21 miles... these are territorial waters between Oman and Iran... that served uninterrupted, unencumbered as international trade routes.

And?

US created a security situation that made Iran close them... too hard for you... then just move along.

So the US did not come with a secret grand plan to carve out a niche for its racketeering business so that the Arab countries would become its protectorates? As you originally alleged? It instead "created a security situation"?

Oman was to negotiate passage post the final deal between US(aggressor) and Iran(aggrieved). US threatened Oman and started the southern corridor outside of the one agreed in the MoU where Iran was to allow ships to pass.

Oman has the right to do whatever it wants with its waters for whatever reason, at least as per your hissy fits over the same Iranian right.

Don't bother if that didn't go down your throat.

Woah there....easy boy. Save the trickling testosterone for the chuckling ladies.

Economic pressure is secondary... US navy is keeping a distance. The fifth fleet is evacuated. A few instances to transit vessels ended up with missiles flying and was not attempted.

Imagining again. The US navy is sitting pretty bombing Iran right off its cost. Its as if they never needed to pass through the Strait to do it. The only time it tried to transit was to escort merchant vessels.....merchant vessels.

It still hasn't... the oil flow and transit of commercial vessels under the new regime puts Iranian interests first.

Exactly what I have been arguing for, throughout your woeful attempts at arguments. The Iranian attack on the merchant vessels was an attempt to keep control of the Strait beyond the conflict for its own economic and political gain. Not some forced need born from childishly imaginary security concerns or to stop the US from engaging in racketeering or to avoid some big bad trap.

Take the time.

Patting himself for winning fights against imaginary shadows, textbook Pakistani. Who's a big boy? Yes, you are.

 

[Magi]

OMG!

Are people still predicting a land invasion lol

Do people still doubt nothing is off limits to protect the petro dollar?

 

[ShapurII]

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I hope our preparation is more than just missile launches on US bases.

 

[VCheng]

It's hard for me to explain to you why your statements is offensive if you don't naturally understand why.

Because potentially you have a sick imagination about potentially what could happen.

For example, do you see me being as offended as you are about what Iran can potentially do to USA with its death chants, if they ever get a nuclear weapon?

In general, your are treating this war of aggression launched by Trump

That is a flat out LIE.

I am on record - many times - saying Trump should never have launched this war. It is a huge mistake. He is an utter idiot for doing so.

Equally, I abhor war, because I know how horrible it is, having seen it up close and personal.

I am also mature enough to realize that once war starts, then it is very dirty, messy and destructive. War is war. Both sides fight it as best as they can, no matter who started it.

You may not like what I say, but that is just the way real life is.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Israel cannot operate without a pliant USA.

Free meal will end.

Next election will be fought on forever wars and support for Israel.

Whichever candidate denounces Israel will win.

Zionism prepares her puppets long in advance. The entire Trump clan was a Zionist project from day one, they have many many more puppets to come. You could argue that the entire political spectrum including the "controlled opposition" are zionist stooges in the USA. Epstein reveal should have given you a small glimpse into how the left and right are two sides of the same shit stained coin. For example Trump and Clinton were both part of that club.

Do you even remember that report that showed mossad agents marrying arab women, giving birth to arabs children, who only later on once they have reached a position of influence are they then notified of their true purpose. So you've got Arabs now thinking their arabs working to get elected in their nations, who if succesful will then be activated by mossad.

I don't think you Muslims understand how dangerous your enemy is. Let me add something else, why do you think zionist media has globally dehumanised Muslims? do you think its just so they can wipe out the Palestinians?

Where zionists win and where Muslims lose is quite simple really. The zionist spends every moment of every day thinking how to take over, how to subvert her enemies and infiltrate the entire state both friendly and hostile to her. We already see openly how business is conducted by them. We see what they own and control compared to what 2 billion muslims own and control.

The Muslim basically lives day to day and simply reacts to what he can see taking place against him. Most things he doesnt even notice.

The one who plans ahead, works towards those goals is always going to be at a massive advantage to the one who simply reacts.

 

[Master Chief]

OMG!

Are people still predicting a land invasion lol

Unlikely. BUT Iran must prepare for this possibility nevertheless. Firstly, it would be folly to disregard this possibility. Secondly, a repulsion of a ground attack seems to remain Iran's best option for some sort of military victory (by causing significant casualties to the invaders).

As this status quo continues, if Iran is prepared to absorb the massive hits it is taking, it actually does become more likely that some ground action will be needed from US/Arab nations to try and force matters.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yes, but after 200 years. I'll let you work that one out

Oh I get it.

Unlike you, we weren't going to wait that long.

 

[lightning f57]

OMG!

Are people still predicting a land invasion lol

Thing is one cant discount a land invasion, trump is senile and tripping on power. To try and claim victory he might go to great lengths, he doesnt care for the death of US soldiers its more an image thing for him. A land invasion will be much worse for the US and trump.

 

[ShapurII]

Because potentially you have a sick imagination about potentially what could happen.

For example, do you see me being as offended as you are about what Iran can potentially do to USA with its death chants, if they ever get a nuclear weapon?

Dude, I respect you but he got you. lol

 

[VCheng]

Dude, I respect you but he got you. lol

LOL. Over what? A simple arithmetic answer to a potential issue raised by YOU!

Nah. Nope.

All the more reason for the Iranian leadership to pay heed to what might potentially happen. This is for them to decide. Nothing to do with me at all.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Do people still doubt nothing is off limits to protect the petro dollar?

Because even Trump knows a ground invasion would end the petro dollar.

Middle East is ground zero of the petro dollar.

Invading Iran would blow up the ME.

E.g. do you think the Shias in Pakistan would just watch the war on YouTube?

 

[ShapurII]

LOL. Over what? A simple arithmetic answer to a potential issue raised by YOU!

Nah. Nope.

All the more reason for the Iranian leadership to pay heed to what might potentially happen. This is for them to decide. Nothing to do with me at all.

I think he worded it perfectly, so I am going to quote him

"You are hand waving away a potential humanitarian catastrophe by stating that they will just go back later like it's a vacation or something."

"You are hand waving away the displacement of millions (who will go where btw) solely because the American people voted to be led by a thug (in your own words) twice, one who has openly said he wants to wipe out Iranian civilization so he can take the oil. You are just dismissing that scale of human misery as if it's nothing."