Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

I agree, if those countries are being used to attack you then you are a legitimate target but those countries have repeatedly stated that no attacks on Iran are being conducted using their bases so Iran has no legitimate right to attack them.

It is the exact same as the US attacking Iran because it can get away with it and Iran attacking whomever it can, as long as it contines to get away with it.

And stay civil when engaging me!

GCC bases, land, ports, airspace and radar information are being used by the US to attack Iran and to protect Israel. This makes the GCC itself legitimate targets.

The GCC has done this many times in the past as well with the wars in Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Palestine. They are Western vassals.

Here is just one small example of this. HIMARs being launched from Kuwait and Bahrain at Iran.

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[SecularNationalist]

Perhaps the outcome of the conflict would have been different if Iran had the capability to hit US Ships.

Why can't they with all those missiles,drones and advanced spying satellites provided by china?

 

[Watandar]

Why can't they with all those missiles,drones and advanced spying satellites provided by china?

I think hitting a moving target is far more difficult than hitting a fixed point. These ships can move very fast esp at flank speed. Ballistic missiles are completely useless against moving targets anyway.

 

[Zoyou]

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[Mav3rick]

GCC bases, land, ports, airspace and radar information are being used by the US to attack Iran and to protect Israel. This makes the GCC itself legitimate targets.

The GCC has done this many times in the past as well with the wars in Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Palestine. They are Western vassals.

Here is just one small example of this. HIMARs being launched from Kuwait and Bahrain at Iran.

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I cannot speculate on what you posted but all these GCC countries have repeatedly stated that attacks on Iran are not being conducted using their countries. Why would they lie if the evidence is out there in the open, especially when Iran can determine where the attacks are being carried out from?

And why would these countries continue to allow the US to launch attacks from within after being attacked repeatedly?

And honestly, my contention and my problem with Iran is not that it is attacking GCC countries. It is more so with its threats that no countries will be allowed to transit the Strait of Hormuz just because Iran is able to target vessels transiting that small area; why should Pakistan be held hostage when Pakistan is neither a party nor in any way a part of the conflict except for efforts to defuse the hostilities? And why should Pakistan pay to transit the Hormuz? I reject that in entirety and if this continues then Pakistan must make sure no Iranian Ship crosses anywhere within our range and beyond, even if the US leaves the area.

 

[RescueRanger]

Why can't they with all those missiles,drones and advanced spying satellites provided by china?

It's not as easy as you think.

 

[ShapurII]

Why can't they with all those missiles,drones and advanced spying satellites provided by china?

Which missiles, drones and advanced spying satellites have been provided by China?

 

[ShapurII]

It's not as easy as you think.

Iran most likely has no access to real-time data. That's why the number of American casualties is insanely low and Iran is unable to track USN assets to target them.

 

[Indos]

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Pretty stupid policy, and for what cost ?

Benefit vs Cost Analyst ?

Now Iran cannot export their oil and Iran non oil trade is also affected while being continously bombed by US and bad relationship with its neighbor since Iran respond to US attack is to attack its neighbor (pretty unlogic)

While the world economy keep growing despite higher oil and gas price since Asian economy can still get both oil and gas from some other places

 

[ShapurII]

While the world economy keep growing despite higher oil and gas price since Asian economy can still get both oil and gas from some other places

This isn't completely true though. The world's GDP is expected to grow 1% less than early predictions by the IMF or the World Bank. I don't remember which, but I am certain about it.

And that's 1% in total. I mean, assuming the world's GDP was projected to grow by 2.6% before the war, now it's projected to grow by 1.6% or so. So, that's about a 30%-40% decrease in GDP growth for the entire world.

 

[HunksTopGuy]

The Gulf countries allowed the US to host bases for their own protection, not for attacks on any other country. How does that make these countries legitimate targets?

And the immense restraint being shown by these Gulf countries is beyond my imagination. However, there will eventually come a time when they start to retaliate. And these Gulf Countries have thousands of Bombs and Missiles for Ground operations using their state of their Air Forces. They can really take the war to Iran when they eventually decide enough is enough......and they can replenish weapons very quickly from all around the globe with the kind of money they have.

Why people like you want GCC countries to be targetted is also beyond me.

Gulfoids can't and won't do shit lol

 

[Indos]

This isn't completely true though. The world's GDP is expected to grow 1% less than early predictions by the IMF or the World Bank. I don't remember which, but I am certain about it.

And that's 1% in total. I mean, assuming the world's GDP was projected to grow by 2.6% before the war, now it's projected to grow by 1.6% or so. So, that's about a 30%-40% decrease in GDP growth for the entire world.

That is the growth change that the world can still tolerate while it can give huge damage to Iranian economy.

I dont think it is worth it for Iran to keep doing this. The most effected countries are those with close proximity to Middle East, including India and Pakistan.

While Indonesia stock market is still in positive territory since the last 6 days

 

[ShapurII]

That is the growth change that the world can still tolerate while it can give huge damage to Iranian economy.

I dont think it is worth it for Iran to keep doing this. The most effected countries are those with close proximity to Middle East, including India and Pakistan.

While Indonesia stock market is still in positive territory since the last 6 days

Nevertheless, it does have an impact on the world economy. Not as much as it impacts the Iranian economy for sure, no doubt about that, but still, it does have a meaningful impact on the world economy.

However, what other option does Iran have? Iran has only two options in my opinion. Fight the fight or surrender. I personally think Iran will eventually surrender because the situation is not going well for Iran. But the truth is that any long-lasting peace that involves Iran's surrender will not be possible without normalizing our ties with the US, and most importantly, complete normalization with Israel, even if it happens behind the scenes.

It is simply impossible for Iran to reach a deal with the US without recognizing the Israeli dominance in the region. Everything that is a threat to Israel has to be surrendered, most importantly Iran's resistance groups. And that's a tough pill to swallow for the Iranian regime whose entire character in the region has been defined by anti-Israel sentiments since the beginning and defines its security through a network of useless militias instead of relying on more realistic means of deterrence and national security.

 

[RescueRanger]

Iran most likely has no access to real-time data. That's why the number of American casualties is insanely low and Iran is unable to track USN assets to target them.

Its okay brother people just coming here posting nonsense about satellite data . Please don't take them seriously.

 

[Mav3rick]

Gulfoids can't and won't do shit lol

But for how long? Will they continue to take hits if the fighting is prolonged to many months?