Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Look dude, you don´t know what you´re talking about and never have. You´re too emotional and too light on the substance.

Go google how the US was starting to turn against Iran DURING the so called ´shah´s reign. Yes. That´s why he was kicked out. He started becoming too ambitious for western tastes. Talking about islands, about middle east hegemony etc. Only then did the big nosed rat start talking about jewish influence in american politics. By then it was obvious they'd regime change iran.

You're really not fit to discuss anything here if you don't understand the main goals of the west, namelijk make everything small and manageable in the middle east. Arabs they can handle, Arabs aren't worth a piece of empty paper (I mean the PGCC Arabs). They're just a gas station and piggybank for the west. But Iraq? Decimated. Syria? Decimated. Egypt? Fully contained. And Egypt is almost fully homogenous, so difficult to tear that apart.

And Turkey is a difficult one for them too. But I promise, if the west succeeds, they'll fck up Turkey or try very hard to. No big countries with a lot of potential are allowed. No matter if they're super democracies, religious, nationalist, whatever.

It indeed has nothing to do with biblical prophecies, that's just childtalk. It has to do with a terribly weakening West, that knows it's can stay dominant in the region and therefore it needs to cut things up to at least have a say in the future. It's simple divide and conquer. Those who can't see this need a doctor.

Kindly avoid personal attacks

You raise good points but personal attacks are not allowed

 

[030292]

Not necessarily, that's your claim. A non-Iranian trying to tell Iranians what they should do with our country lol The Islamic Republic decided to surrender when it accepted an early ceasefire, and they know it themselves as well.

Why do you think Iran released an American spy yesterday a few hours after Trump threatened to hit Iran's bridges and infrastructure next week? Who rewards his enemy like that after threatening to commit war crimes.

Definitely not trying to tell iran what to do bro, im sorry if i came across like that.

 

[RocketLaw]

Saudi Arabia



UAE

 

[ShapurII]

those are aerial escorts which Iran lacks the air defence means to attack. America's naval blockade relies on CSGs in the Arabian Sea at least 300km away from Iran's coasts.

I remember some of our established and respected members made exaggerated claims that Iran A2/AD capabilities could reach 5,000 km!

I thought 700 km was a fair number, but even that has been challenged in the recent war unfortunately.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yeah, how dare they not submit their waters to Iranian interests!

I am afraid the U.S. and Israel have established a precedent where security interests trump all rights and laws. So now others have to live with the consequences as Iran views control over the SoH as a vital security interest.

 

[RescueRanger]

Saudi Arabia



UAE

And how is this "breaking news"?

 

[Persian Gulf]

I remember some of our established and respected members made exaggerated claims that Iran A2/AD capabilities could reach 5,000 km!

I thought 700 km was a fair number, but even that has been challenged in the recent war unfortunately.

Now I am sceptical of anything beyond 10km and that’s only for drones

 

[ShapurII]

Definitely not trying to tell iran what to do bro, im sorry if i came across like that.

Thank you for your understanding, brother. I appreciate it.

The thing is, at the end of the day, it will be the people of Iran that will pay the price of our poor foreign policies.
I know that some people want Iran to be the hero that fights the Western imperialism and Israel, but we simply do not have the means to do that and Muslims, and the people of the Global South, not only are not united, but conspire against each other all the time.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[RocketLaw]

And how is this "breaking news"?

Yes right! Of course, they are participated again Iran.

 

[Winthorpe]

Any thoughts on what Trump will announce Thursday night during his address to the Nation? I am guessing making a case for ground forces?

 

[RescueRanger]

Yes right! Of course, they are participated again Iran.

Everyone knows there are US bases in KSA. It's not news.

 

[VCheng]

The United States is an evil country, there's no doubt about that. It may not be the Great Satan or whatever other term coined for propaganda, but there's no doubt that most of the evil in the world since at least World War II comes from the United States alone.
However, it is not Iran's duty to fight the United States or Israel on behalf of the oppressed people of Palestine or any other country. We should've never got ourselves involved in this nonsense in the first place.


If you're trying to justify a war crime, I'm afraid you're failing at it miserably. The US is purposefully committing war crimes and your president has already admitted to it many times on national TV. There is no doubt that the whole responsibility for the recent attack targeting a location close to a hospital dedicated to children with cancer is on the United States and nobody else.

Dear Sir, as I mentioned to @RescueRanger above, everyone has an equal right to hold on to their views as they wish.

I would like to hold on to my views, different as they may be, from yours described above, and we can move on in peace, at least on the this thread and forum.

Directly relevant to the topic, as much as I can gather from the evidence available, the hospital in Ahvaz was not targeted.

I am not justifying any war crimes.

I am merely noting that military targets can and do pose a danger to any civilian assets in close proximity to them, and that is a simple fact, stated without any other ulterior motive in mind.

 

[Watandar]

Any thoughts on what Trump will announce Thursday night during his address to the Nation? I am guessing making a case for ground forces?

No, reports were it will be about election interference by foreign powers. Sure he may throw some Iran stuff in there but it's more about his attempt to rig the upcoming mid-term elections.

 

[RzA]

Thank you for your understanding, brother. I appreciate it.

The thing is, at the end of the day, it will be the people of Iran that will pay the price of our poor foreign policies.
I know that some people want Iran to be the hero that fights the Western imperialism and Israel, but we simply do not have the means to do that and Muslims, and the people of the Global South, not only are not united, but conspire against each other all the time.

It's so tiring being an Iranian. I just want us to be a normal country and live normal lives and have normal relationship(s) with everyone else. Is that too much to ask?