Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

By the way. Seems that US is not bombing the industrial interior cities of the country.

That sounds weird to me, because we can conclude that in different cities of the country Irán is assembling new ballistic and cruise missiles and drones.

That recall me the political restrictions suffered also in Vietnam that ultimately took US to defeat.

What people think about that?.

You have to assume that Iran has relocated a large portion of its military manufacturing infrastructure deep into its mountains that they are soo keen on. Drones are easier to manufacture, but the jury is out if Iran can currently manufacture its ballistic missiles under the current conditions. Iran has said, that they are manufacturing though.

 

[ShapurII]

Iran does not have 5 trillion dollars of infrastructure to lose, nor does the USA have the supplies for that even if Iran did.

Are you sure that Iran can't lose 5 trillion dollars? Because Iran's oil resources alone is worth 16 trillion dollars alone, if oil stays at $80 per barrel. That's besides Iran's vast natural gas reserves, helium reserves and other mineral resources including copper and lithium.

Iran is not losing its energy resources because Iran has established clearly the region will also lose its energy resources at the same time.

Yeah, no. Iran has not established such a thing.

The USA does not have the ability to do this, you are over inflating what the USA can afford to achieve. The USA does not have unlimited resources, or unlimited time for anything. The clock is ticking on the Americans.

And we should take your word granted about that?

I am not Iranian, so my judgement is not being clouded with anger and hate right now. It is clinical, and logical.

No, you are not Iranian. Your judgement is being clouded with ignorance instead of anger and hate. Just like your initial statement that Iran cannot lose 5 trillion dollars. And your definition of what constitutes a victory over the US is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Did IRGC attack Trump's towers in UAE? If true, it remains to be seen if insurance would cover the impacts of those Iranian missiles!

Insurance does not in general cover war time damage, that falls on the government (UAE) to resolve.

 

[Immortals]

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[BananaRepublic]

We need to give some allowance to the Iranian posters here. Even to the level-headed Persian Gulf Mod. Their country is being attacked and is literally facing an existential threat. Regardless of the mistakes the Iranian leadership made since 1979, they are at a point of no return: Either they survive as a nation-state with sovereignty (and hopefully course correction) or they become another vassal state with even more castastrophic wars to launched on them should they stray from the path.

Yep!

Love to all the Non PrickLovist Iranians.

It’s also nice to see the mods being considerate towards them.

 

[Immortals]

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[Persian Gulf]

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[Immortals]

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[Magi]

back to business

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Well that was a waste of an expensive bomb. Wear and tear, fuel and bomb cost more than the bridge. Iran builds all of this domestically. Rebar, cement, engineering and manpower is cheap in Iran. They just managed to piss the locals off and unite them.

 

[tsunset]

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[Ali_Baba]

Are you sure that Iran can't lose 5 trillion dollars? Because Iran's oil resources alone is worth 16 trillion dollars alone, if oil stays at $80 per barrel. That's besides Iran's vast natural gas reserves, helium reserves and other mineral resources including copper and lithium.

The Americans are not going to blow up the very thing they are trying to capture and have influence or control over... All the things you have mentioned are the things the USA and the world wants and needs so why burn it ? Your statement is not logical.

Yeah, no. Iran has not established such a thing.

I think they have, you suggest they haven't. Ok.

And we should take your word granted about that?

No - this is an open forum, and we are free to express our views and explain the rationale when required. I have done that.

No, you are not Iranian. Your judgement is being clouded with ignorance instead of anger and hate.

What am I angry about ?!??!! Iran is not my country, I have no linkage or association to it, so why would I be angry and hateful about anything that is happening ????? This is not a logical statement.

Just like your initial statement that Iran cannot lose 5 trillion dollars.

I have made my point above, Iran cannot lose 5 trillion dollars...

And your definition of what constitutes a victory over the US is beyond ridiculous.

That is ok - you are more than welcome to put me in your ignore list if i trigger you soo much. Please do so

 

[RocketLaw]

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Zionist Arabs are lazy, unreliable, and coward after Gaza is gone - no thank you please.

Pakistan should not be involved in this mess as we are not RESPONSIBLE for every lazy Arab.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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If Iran has indeed managed to take that picture from one of its assets, then possibility it has the ability to use that same platform for terminal guidance ?

 

[BananaRepublic]

What gets me thinking they will not invade is why are they bombing bridges and not sending troops immediately? The bridges are right now under repair and will be completely back to service in a few days. Why aren't they bombing the repair teams?

If you intend to cut bridges and routes then invade immediately afterwards instead of giving time to repair them

Very good point indeed

 

[Magi]

That's the most ridiculous thing I have read in a while.

So, if Iran loses 5 trillion dollars, loses its entire energy resources to the enemy and turns into an inhabitable wasteland because it can no longer sustain life but sinks 2 tankers in the Strait of Hormuz which has limited effect on the global economy, Iran has won the war. OK! lol

I see that as opportunity cost. Total control over the strait of Hormuz is worth more than 5 trillion. If Iran can cement its de facto ownership it will pay infinite dividends in shaping behavior of nations worldwide. The sand statelets will fall to Iran sooner or later. Iran theoretically can create a petro rial. The same way that the emirs deposit their earnings in the US, they can shift that to Iran.

But I don't detect that level of ambition and our leadership is either corrupt or incapable. So its entirely possible Iran will sustain 5 trillion in damages and lose the strait as well.