Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iran isn't aiming to fight their way out of this because they can't. Their leverage lays in the squeeze. The longer they squeeze, the more Trump squeals. They won't needlessly escalate.



I was hoping it was the pomegranates. Hey...to each his own.

I get it now, though! Pakistan has assets, sent them inside Iranian territory, bombed Iranian territory, remained unchallenged during and after because Iran does not have the assets to respond with, ergo Pakistan's response was weaker. Someone call the US and let them know that they're doing it all wrong. Given your predicament you should not read up on how missiles and drones were also used.



Noting the above mentioned absolute lack of response to our actions, pretty safe to assume that the deterrence and the lesson both were established, taught, drilled, and tested thoroughly.....salvaging any comfort through self-placating nonsensical rhetoric, not withstanding.



I don't know, man....they do seem to be powerful enough to both bomb Iranian territory and protect their people in their own air space. Amaze use, indeed.


Anyway, pray do continue the house slave bit, just do it on topic.

explained more clearly:
one of the most heavily sanctioned countries on earth. Was this country truly so incompetent, so utterly incapable, that even under the weight of endless sanctions it still managed to take first shot?


And yet, if it could chose to, it could deal with our air force without hesitation. What made the whole spectacle absurd was that you people keep rambling on about air force, reciting tales of military glory!.

The contrast between 'that' confidence and reality was so stark!



It is rather ironic that people living in a country free from sanctions believe they have accomplished something extraordinary. The nation they are criticizing, however, has continued to function despite being subjected to heavy sanctions for years.


As for them they are saying, those sanctions make little difference to us; we would still be able to confront you regardless of them!!!

imagine the level of incompetence on our side!

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get me started on this. I am well aware of the 'civilian lackeys' including the great 'Khan'.
Pakistani 'Establishment' is 'Pakistan' first, last and only line of defense which no idiot into his third marriage with a witch wife can negate.
Mods are welcome to delete our posts but if someone again brings up 'the Establishment', the great 'Khan', the 'vassal' arguments then expect a retort.

You brought up Khan and everything else, not me. I merely pointed out that Pakistan, after 8 decades, exists as a security State with abysmal economic and social indicators - and that was in response to you attempting to obfuscate Pakistan’s social and economic failures.

But anyways, back to the topic.

 

[Pakistan First]

Yes, I think that’s a good solution for the Iran-obsessed sectarian trolls who have been activated to advance their grand conspiracy of Iran working with Israel

IF your wild accusation was targeted at me, then I expect you to prove a single post of mine where I "trolled" Or where I did anything at all that's make me "sectarian".

Edit:
and I didn't see "Working with Israel" accusation too. Wow!!

I never knew working with Israel means advocating attacks over Israel. Honestly, If I'd be advocating here to attack KSA then fan following here would be praising me. But people get furious when I ask to hit the source of the problem. Some strange Israeli agent i am really.

 

[Meengla]

You brought up Khan and everything else, not me. I merely pointed out that Pakistan, after 8 decades, exists as a security State with abysmal economic and social indicators - and that was in response to you attempting to obfuscate Pakistan’s social and economic failures.

But anyways, back to the topic.

I quoted that guy who viciously attacked Pakistan as a 'vassal' nation despite all the evidence to the contrary. Not only was that off topic, insulting but also a lie; he and some other non Pakistanis, misinformed by the likes of certain Pakistanis often bring up the great 'Khan' as Pakistan's savior, as that guy did in his quoted post.
This is a Pakistani forum and for Pakistanis to stand idle when their nation is falsely labeled as 'vassal' is an insult.
But back to the topic.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Agreed Pakistan should have been an East Asian nation by nation like China or Japan or Korea.

I’d be happy if our social indicators were close to Iran or the Philippines.

Iran is hurting economically so it appears will strike at energy facilities across region even if US isn't doing daily attacks

Trump repeating himself with nothing new. Trump and Israel seem to want numerous parties to collide into each other, particularly Muslim nations and that's why they won't sign nuclear deal on table.

They're dragging it on by intent.

Trump said out loud what Israel wants - turn Iran into a failed State with various factions warring amongst each other, like Somalia, Syria, Libya and Yemen.

For those of you who are antagonistic to Iran (out of sectarian reasons or just pure sympathy with the GCC states), please try to comprehend the disastrous impact on Pakistan if Iran turns into a failed State of 90 million plus.

We can’t even handle Afghanistan and will continue to deal with the fallout there for decades.

 

[Feroze]

I’d be happy if our social indicators were close to Iran or the Philippines.

Trump said out loud what Israel wants - turn Iran into a failed State with various factions warring amongst each other, like Somalia, Syria, Libya and Yemen.

For those of you who are antagonistic to Iran (out of sectarian reasons or just pure sympathy with the GCC states), please try to comprehend the disastrous impact on Pakistan if Iran turns into a failed State of 90 million plus.

We can’t even handle Afghanistan and will continue to deal with the fallout there for decades.

Haha! I guess you are right. Like Iran or Malaysia.

But China, Korea, and Japan are good role models as well. Including Taiwan.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

I quoted that guy who viciously attacked Pakistan as a 'vassal' nation despite all the evidence to the contrary. Not only was that off topic, insulting but also a lie; he and some other non Pakistanis, misinformed by the likes of certain Pakistanis often bring up the great 'Khan' as Pakistan's savior, as that guy did in his quoted post.
This is a Pakistani forum and for Pakistanis to stand idle when their nation is falsely labeled as 'vassal' is an insult.
But back to the topic.

I see no evidence to the contrary.

The Army sold out a sitting Prime Minister because the US/Israel didn’t like the fact that he couldn’t be controlled by them and would likely not have silently stood by when the Israelis started their current genocide of the Palestinians.

Do you really think all this leading into the Iran war was not carefully planned out?

 

[krash]

but the Shia theological regime cannot shun the historical victimhood cloak and wants to keep it hot. Taking revenge on Sunni Gulf states, KSA, and USA+Israel, all same time.

It wasn't about any of that. Iran saw interests in the Strait that it believes it can secure, that's it. You can argue for or against that but it did not do it for some sectarian or vengeful reasons. States aren't run on these infantile notions. They're only used for political gain, everywhere. Besides Iran was clearly ready to extend its hand to the Arabs.

as expected, you were arguing for red herring from the beginning!

my question to you (rather, to a slave!) is,


why did a broken, torn and sanctioned country, took the aim and how did it fire a missile?!!!


given that question, your big boasts and big talk of air force this that becomes more diluted not strong!


USA is global and sole super power, IR will fire missile at USA..

how come it attacked you?!!!!

because, to them (a country which is impeded by sanctions) you are only a paper tiger!

get it?!!!!

My American Eskimo agrees, tries to go after my neighbor's mastiff regularly. Of course Pakistan's strength must be judged by what Iran did before Pakistan brought its strength to bear, not after......pffft........

Just like yourself and many others on this very thread, someone in Iran got high on their own supply and dreamt that it was bigger than it actually was. Like a good neighbor, Pakistan politely cured that delusion...we had had practice. Unfortunately, Pakistani weapons cannot cure desperate cope born from debilitating insecurities and latent agendas...not to the East, not to the West, and not within. So, feel free to see strength where the rest see stupidity.

but someone who has dedicated few years towards sincere education

Dude, please.

explained more clearly:
one of the most heavily sanctioned countries on earth. Was this country truly so incompetent, so utterly incapable, that even under the weight of endless sanctions it still managed to take first shot?


And yet, if it could chose to, it could deal with our air force without hesitation. What made the whole spectacle absurd was that you people keep rambling on about air force, reciting tales of military glory!.

The contrast between 'that' confidence and reality was so stark!



It is rather ironic that people living in a country free from sanctions believe they have accomplished something extraordinary. The nation they are criticizing, however, has continued to function despite being subjected to heavy sanctions for years.


As for them they are saying, those sanctions make little difference to us; we would still be able to confront you regardless of them!!!

imagine the level of incompetence on our side!

Read above and people who can't afford underwear have taken first shots at Iran, Pakistan, and the US. You've wasted your sincere education, I'm afraid.

 

[Immortals]

IR has accepted casualties of four members.. Saudia has really climbed the escalation ladder... Precise intelligence by US/Israil and traitorous insiders.

The picture clearly shows a 5th coffin draped in Iranian flag.

Also there are rumors that a IRGC Quds force general was killed as well that headed the Iraqi operations file.

Remains to be seen, but Iran purposely withholding casualties is not new since publically announcing a large casualty count means Iran will have to respond or look weak.

 

[lightning f57]

@Persian Gulf

So this is why we saw the "random missile strikes to Jordan" by Iran. So they turned out because of this strike.

Serious question, is the fact that Iran responding to attacks to it a show of restraint, maturity or that its trying to avoid escalation. If its the latter then for someone like trump he sees that as weakness.

Here I was thinking Iran finally employed a pre-emptive strike strategy.

 

[Jalz]

Seems Iran should drain the SPR reserves until damage is permanent.

 

[tsunset]

Seems Iran should drain the SPR reserves until damage is permanent.

All of these options will not achieve their true objective, which is regime change

 

[Jalz]

@Persian Gulf

Doubtful that it was 20 personal.

All of these options will not achieve their true objective, which is regime change

They cant even if they wanted to.

 

[OldTwilight]

Seems Iran should drain the SPR reserves until damage is permanent.

I think we should stop fearing nuclar strike by USA and build Nukes and put all these missiles in their asses .

 

[krash]

please keep your subjective thoughts in your head and answer my question!

asked a question and got an example of dogs!

sheesh!

dude go ballon some air drugs, seems you are out of it!

Right.....