Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I am afraid we are getting closer to tactical nukes...

It's coming and usa is as evil as what it was in 1945
Then stop letting your airspace be used to bomb Iran. If you play at hunting lions, you’re going to get bitten on the ass.

Worry about your Palestinian, Syrian, and Lebanese Arabs, and everything will go swimmingly for you.

At this point, your fears regarding Iran are nothing but crocodile tears.
 
My only objection It is that even if Irán succeed surviving Donald Trump Administration (seems Irán will), there is not enough. Irán needs to draw a red line to Israel and US and that just come with nuclear weapons.

Without them Israel will attack back and US will exploit any weakness to join in a hypothetical coalition of arab countries and Israel thirst of revenge.
Yeah its a hopeful plan by Iran but not a fool proof plan. Iran end goal is end of sanctions and prosperity at this stage. Fighting Israel and ending Israeli occupation is just out of the picture for Iran for now
 
Because Iranian leaders have a country to run. They have 90 million people waiting for them to come out of this war honorably. They want to beat the blockade without giving up their core demands. They also want a chart a way forward with their neighboring Arab and Muslim states.

Frankly, only one leader - Benjamin Netanyahu - and "Israel" have a vested interest in continuing this conflict. Everyone else wants to end it. Even Trump administration officials are looking for a way to end it. The upcoming agreement between Iran and Oman is a step in the right direction.
Unfortunately what Bibi wants, Bibi gets
 
Unfortunately what Bibi wants, Bibi gets
Bibi has the full support of military industrial complex who needs to sell trillions in weapons, he has full support of american jewish mafia zionists, full support of CIA deepstate who wants to build more bases and chokepoints. Until America can get rid of these war mongering factions within their system, they will always be at war with one country or another.
 
Turkish-Iranian preliminary trade data for July 2026:

Turkish exports: 380.289.259 USD
Turkish imports: 354.252.958 USD

July 2025:

Turkish exports: 236.563.752 USD
Turkish imports: 195.172.650 USD

Undoubtedly, Turkey is playing a role in easing the US sea blockade, enabling Iran to at least partially mitigate the losses caused by the US naval blockade.
This war taught us that in this region only Turkey is able to have a foreign policy somewhat independent of US demands
 
Bibi has the full support of military industrial complex who needs to sell trillions in weapons, he has full support of american jewish mafia zionists, full support of CIA deepstate who wants to build more bases and chokepoints. Until America can get rid of these war mongering factions within their system, they will always be at war with one country or another.
I think american mic is done after iran completely devasted american presence in the region with low cost indigenous drones and missiles, the world is watching how a poor country under sanctions for the past 50 years has completely dominated the escalation ladder against the hyperpower of the world, with passage of time no one will buy american overpriced junk weapons which are only good for oppressing unarmed civilians but as soon as they face a real army they become impotent, and look inwards to build their own defence industries.
 
I think american mic is done after iran completely devasted american presence in the region with low cost indigenous drones and missiles, the world is watching how a poor country under sanctions for the past 50 years has completely dominated the escalation ladder against the hyperpower of the world, with passage of time no one will buy american overpriced junk weapons which are only good for oppressing unarmed civilians but as soon as they face a real army they become impotent, and look inwards to build their own defence industries.


in a recent attack on bases, USA fired 100 PAC 2 and PAC 3 missiles, in a single salvo!

only problem is, at this rate, it is not any more a question of 'tech. obsolescence' only!


bec. if your AD concept goes out of business, your basis infrastructure, assets these bases hold along with the staff; hold no value in the battle zone!

all will be cooked, before it starts to move!


now, as a result of this, USA needs to balance a trade-off. It cannot leave this region now because it needs dollar flows as now, more dollar are needed to engineer more sophisticated missile, which require very heft investment!

Trade off: 1. more investment 2. more regional conflicts 3. trade routes closed with inflation rising faster than speed of money flowing towards the USA economy(in other words, even investment can now create inflation!)


thats a killer blow, but, requires sustained effort of 2 to 3 years1
 
I think american mic is done after iran completely devasted american presence in the region with low cost indigenous drones and missiles, the world is watching how a poor country under sanctions for the past 50 years has completely dominated the escalation ladder against the hyperpower of the world, with passage of time no one will buy american overpriced junk weapons which are only good for oppressing unarmed civilians but as soon as they face a real army they become impotent, and look inwards to build their own defence industries.
Yes warfare has changed considerably in both iran war and Ukraine war. Air superiority use to be the be all end all but Ukraine and iran has shattered that image.
 
A lot there to unpack but lets start with this, real world geopolitics is not some high school level games where calling names like "subhumans" work. Take a leaf from IRGC's page where they counter Israel-US propaganda with objective and clever analysis. "Subhumans" and "Supremcy" is also a very much Israeli extremist framing that you yourself have fallen into. Secondly, geopolitics doesnt have a side, every country has aligned interests there is no such thing as us vs them. GCC knows this, Pakistan knows this, China knows this, Iran knows this and even Houthis knows this.

The only people who dont know this is Israel, large parts of US and unfortunately people like yourself who have fallen for the Israeli framing. Extremist Israelis and Evangelical Americans believe in the Chosen People absurdity and hence they think that.

As far as your views are concerned, you seem to think that GCC is some magical spell cast by a Supreme Race (i.e. Chosen People) and only you can see this. The reality is that by believing this you are actually implicitly projecting that aura of Supremacy and have fallen for that contradiction.

Why you may believe that could be attributed to lack of knowledge, experience or just pure fear. Let me guess, you are also a PTI fan and an anti PAK army guy. Cue some whole hearted denials next. Before I give you the space to side track on PTI vs Army - let me say this - both have their good and bad.

Which leads me to explain the good and bad. GCC that you are so anti has some good, a lot of good infact but also some bad things too.. May be shocking to you. And IRGC that you love so much has also a lot of bad and some good things to.

Lets start with GCC bad -delayed organisation against Israel's genocide. Too much US influence and lack of self defence. Late resistance to US attacks on Iran.

IRGC has bad things - corruption, mismanagement of economy but also good things where they called out Israel's genocide more forcefully and not backing out in this war.

Now, lets discuss your China facts. Islamabad MOU was backed, and potentially even promoted by China. China's main alignment is return to peace. And China is very much involved if Iran stops listening, china will be all for it to leverage Pakistan to create a stabilising factor.

But IRGC are not stupid like your views. They know this so are playing a very finely balanced geopolitical game. They have to destabilise US/world econ without blowing up their own economy or its allies economies. Allies including China and Pakistan.

Pakistan has aligned interests with GCC, Iran, China and the US. In fact, the only country Pakistan isnt aligned with is Israel. When it comes to middle east war, Pakistan is even aligned with India. Before you get too confused, the point here is that Pak/India alignment comes in the form of energy prices. If oil market truly blows up most people who will die and suffer will be in Pak and India.

So before you get too happy with your high school games, let that sink in.

Which also means that Pak is aligned to keep the region stable. Since the start of the war Pak has issued serious warnings to the US (stop killing Irans leaders - the warning worked) , warning to Israel ( sending fighter escort and Islamabad embassy in Tehran redline) which also worked. Now we are at a time when Pak feels, rightly or wrongly, that the warning is due the other way to IRGC and Houthis. That warning so far has worked too and we will see if the regional meeting on Monday does take place or not but its a start.

If IRGC and Houthis do not seriously sit down to hash this out, that creates political support both locally and globally to take the next step. But Pak cannot expect IRGC to sit down with GCC if IRGC is getting attacked via US bases.

In this part, Pak has also issued a warning to Saudi who seemed to have got the message very early on and hence the Makkah Agreement and not the Abraham Accords.

Before you start hyper ventilating about Makkah Agreement, remember Iran and IRGC welcomed the formation whilst Pak and Turkey stressed that its open to Iran too in the future.

I know all this may be too complicated for your high school views, but there is no magical spell of supremacy Israel holds on anyone but the evangelical christians and dumb people like yourself.

I had to write all this to educate you because you wont find this at PTI rallies or Hollywood movies.

You outsourced your argument to ChatGPT and still somehow came back with a geopolitical coloring book. Strip away the AI filler, imaginary cause-and-effect, and masturbatory “let me educate you” routine, and your entire thesis is basically “countries have interests.” Groundbreaking. The funniest part is watching you use 1,500 words of borrowed intelligence to manufacture the appearance of your own.
 


Even Trump knows that Iran is holding it until the midterm elections
 

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