Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tamerlane]

It makes no difference to Iran because both parties in the US agree on two things: their hatred for Iran and their love of Israel. The Iran-Israel situation is one of the rare instances of bi-partisan policies in the US.

Yes, but if the US descends into internal conflict and chaos then it won't have much time to worry about Israel. We all know that Israel has go, but that will only happen when the US is unwilling or unable to help it.

 

[LongLiveIran]

Yes, but if the US descends into internal conflict and chaos then it won't have much time to worry about Israel. We all know that Israel has go, but that will only happen when the US is unwilling or unable to help it.

Add to this list nearly all of key positions in Trump's 2016 administration and most of the current Biden administration. Even if the US enters complete chaos and a civil war, they won't give up on defending Israel. They are literally Israeli citizens living in the US.

 

[UKBengali]

Yes, but if the US descends into internal conflict and chaos then it won't have much time to worry about Israel. We all know that Israel has go, but that will only happen when the US is unwilling or unable to help it.

In essence at least for the next 5-10 years US support is taken as a given. Whether we have Democrat or Republican in White House is quite irrelevant.

Iran has a strategy to exhaust it from constant military pressure. The economic boycotts have already started due to its own barbarism.

 

[jauk]

irans current calculation of that ratio does seem to be wrong it seems as Israel does not feel constrained, the escalation ladder is being increased by Israel. The intent of the failed strike shows that.

Incorrect. Zionia is behaving EXACTLY like a cornered animal with nothing left to lose.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

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Add to this list nearly all of key positions in Trump's 2016 administration and most of the current Biden administration. Even if the US enters complete chaos and a civil war, they won't give up on defending Israel. They are literally Israeli citizens living in the US.

Little correction: They are literally Israeli citizens ruling the US.

 

[TallGuy]

There’s going to be a high level of volatility in the US after the elections. Whichever side loses will accuse the other side of rigging. Tempers may get heated in a country where there are 400 million guns.

It may be better for Iran to wait and see what happens in the US before the next round with the Zionist entity.

Sir, Does it matter who comes in white house for Iran. its a foregone conclusion that they are lap dogs of entity.

be whoever, it be!

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Sir, Does it matter who comes in white house for Iran. its a foregone conclusion that they are lap dogs of entity.

be whoever, it be!

Well actually it matters to some extent. They both will follow Israel but the Difference is of intensity.

 

[LongLiveIran]

Well actually it matters to some extent. They both will follow Israel but the Difference is of intensity.

The difference is of public theatrics. Trump will use a hard tone on Iran and approach sanctions on Iran from a position of dominance, America first, and a threatening language that I told Iran you have to do this or else blah blah blah while the democrats will do exactly the same but use a soft, peace loving tone to pretend that they want to negotiate with Iran while Iran is a rogue terrorist state that refuses to do so because of radical ideological reasons.

 

[TallGuy]

I think as there were 5 deaths this time and the fact that the entity's attack was mainly a failure(lack of capability), Iran will at least destroy 1-2 military facilities and missile production facilities in Israel.

That would be proportionate and give Iran "escalation dominance" as the entity would not want then to go to targeting civilian infrastructure like energy facilities. It simply has no capacity to hit military related targets in Iran in a meaningful way as the last Zionist attack on Iran showed.

what is a proportionate response?

ENTITY claims hitting 20 Targets (SAM Sites (THAAD/ARROW and whatnot), Missile production facilities and Military industries) and three waves. correct!

If Iran just do exactly that - Entity is all but gone militarily.

 

[TallGuy]

I agree with your assessment overall, but the situation with Hezbollah is different.

Israel is engaged in ground battles with Hezbollah which is causing them to lose soldiers. If Iran wants to escalate the situation like that and directly target Israeli soldiers, it's going to be an entirely different situation. Also, don't forget that Israel is planting explosives to destroy Lebanese villages. So, Lebanon is paying a huge price as well, and much more than Iran.

Iran has so far not paid much for totally ruining the image of invincibility of Israel (which is strategically of great importance to Israel in the region) and Israel will never recover from what Iran has imposed on them.

This is how i see it
Iran strikes Entity
Entity response immediately with its strikes (now they know Iranian IADS and absorb lot eloctric waves - i am sure by this time thay have ECM/ESM is placed) inflicts heavy damages on Iran

Iran opens Golan Front (riposte)

 

[LongLiveIran]

This is how i see it
Iran strikes Entity
Entity response immediately with its strikes (now they know Iranian IADS and absorb lot eloctric waves - i am sure by this time thay have ECM/ESM is placed) inflicts heavy damages on Iran

Iran opens Golan Front (riposte)

We can't open the Golan front without Syria's approval and Assad is unlikely to agree with that. But yeah, Israel and the US do have a master plan and it seems that they had some limited success in their first strike. I think their next waves of attack will likely involve large scale cruise missile attacks.

That's why it's important that the commanders in Iran this time teach Israel a real lesson. Warning shots won't cut it. I think "True Promise" is not a fitting name anymore.

 

[UKBengali]

We can't open the Golan front without Syria's approval and Assad is unlikely to agree with that. But yeah, Israel and the US do have a master plan and it seems that they had some limited success in their first strike. I think their next waves of attack will likely involve large scale cruise missile attacks.

That's why it's important that the commanders in Iran this time teach Israel a real lesson. Warning shots won't cut it. I think "True Promise" is not a fitting name anymore.

They tried a large attack last time but it was a shambolic failure by in large

 

[Liquidator]

They tried a large attack last time but it was a shambolic failure by in large

Too many brainwashed fools here who believe they are fighting superhuman space Jews with star wars type weapons.....

The aura of invincibility will take time to diminish. The west has invested heavily on making themselves seem invincible so they can perpetuate organised violence with little repercussion.

Iran has demonstrated best defence I'd offense.

 

[LongLiveIran]

They tried a large attack last time but it was a shambolic failure by in large

I disagree with that. Damage to the Ghadir OTH radar looks severe enough to make it non-operational. I think Khamenei said it the best that their attack should not be exaggerated, nor underestimated.

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[TallGuy]

I disagree with that. Damage to the Ghadir OTH radar looks severe enough to make it non-operational. I think Khamenei said it the best that their attack should not be exaggerated, nor underestimated.

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In a way basically saying "Proportionate" response is required.