Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

The eminent genius that knows better than all concerning everything continues to call those who disagree with his brilliant analyses "stupid".

Your word gizmo does not change the fact that IRI is either gonna get bombed by US+Israel+NATO or will have to sacrifice its nuclear program the same way it did before. Khamenei the politician has no balls to arm up the country and so does his blind followers like you who cheer the IRI's incompetence, thinking if we do bob of baghdad level cheering, it will change anything.

Iran is still maintaining its NPT signatory status, still refusing WGU enrichment, still following Khomeini's ball-less fatwa, Khamenei is still trying to politicize the nuclear program so that he can put the blame on reformists (using Larijani, Shamkhani as his mouth pieces), IRIAF is shit, BM's ranges are curbed by Khomeini. USN will encircle Iranian waters and IRIN/IRGCN's large fleet will get bombed by them to shreds because they have no air cover, instead of putting actual strategy to counter that IRGCN pulled the Qaher mockup stunt for internal consumption, you wanna know more?

 

[ToddE]

Stupid people. Huh? The problem with the really smart armchair generals in this forum is that they believe everything they read in Zio media.
We have a moderator who could barely hold back his glee of the nothing Burger of this Israeli strike.

Yes, if the Americans could they would’ve already crushed Iran. The images in Gaza is what Tehran would have looked like . Steve Witcof would not be negotiating and involved in direct talks. If Israel was so awesome , they would have the empire fight their wars .

Zelzal 2 is a cheap rocket with a 750 KG warhead and 200+ kilo range. If 200 plus fired at critical infrastructure of an air base, the damage would set operations back for weeks if not indefinitely.

Lets count.

Iran opened nuclear facilities to IAEA. DPRK, India, Israel, Pakistan did not but iran did.
Iran Gave up enrichment to make a deal over its national security with enemy.
Iran limited is MRBM ranges, no one else did but Iran.
Soleimani assasinated by US, Iran did nothing significant in return.
More IRGC Generals killed in Levant by Israel. Iran did nothing in return.
Iranian scientists assasinated by Mossad openly inside Iran. Iran did nothing in return.
Israel openly does terror attacks on Iranian nuclear sites. Iran did nothing in return.
Hamas finished.
Hezbollah leadership gone.
Syria lost to Israel and its condom Erdogan. Iran is still calling Turkey a brother country.
Iranian 100 Billion USD + thousands of soldiers' lives spent on the Levant wasted to dirt.
Houthis are getting bombed on daily basis now.
Iranian GDP is halved because of sanctions, Riyal now worth toilet paper.

You wanna believe in propoganda to sleep better at night, be my guest, but realities on the ground would not change anything.

 

[Tijani]

Your word gizmo does not change the fact that IRI is either gonna get bombed by US+Israel+NATO or will have to sacrifice its nuclear program the same way it did before. Khamenei the politician has no balls to arm up the country and so does his blind followers like you who cheer the IRI's incompetence, thinking if we do bob of baghdad level cheering, it will change anything.

Iran is still maintaining its NPT signatory status, still refusing WGU enrichment, still following Khomeini's ball-less fatwa, Khamenei is still trying to politicize the nuclear program so that he can put the blame on reformists (using Larijani, Shamkhani as his mouth pieces), IRIAF is shit, BM's ranges are curbed by Khomeini. USN will encircle Iranian waters and IRIN/IRGCN's large fleet will get bombed by them to shreds because they have no air cover, instead of putting actual strategy to counter that IRGCN pulled the Qaher mockup stunt for internal consumption, you wanna know more?

You're obviously entitled your opinions. I for one happen to have a different interpretation of the events unfolding and all this is just fine. The issue is your ungentlemanly attitude towards everything and everyone concerning differing perspectives. Calling people stupid is hardly constructive dialog.
My word "gizmo" was intended to highlight this continuing disrespectful behaviour.

 

[ToddE]

You're obviously entitled your opinions. I for one happen to have a different interpretation of the events unfolding and all this is just fine. The issue is your ungentlemanly attitude towards everything and everyone concerning differing perspectives. Calling people stupid is hardly constructive dialog.
My word "gizmo" was intended to highlight this continuing disrespectful behaviour.

Look below.

Iran opened nuclear facilities to IAEA. DPRK, India, Israel, Pakistan did not but iran did.
Iran Gave up enrichment to make a deal over its national security with enemy.
Iran limited is MRBM ranges, no one else did but Iran.
Soleimani assasinated by US, Iran did nothing significant in return.
More IRGC Generals killed in Levant by Israel. Iran did nothing in return.
Iranian scientists assasinated by Mossad openly inside Iran. Iran did nothing in return.
Israel openly does terror attacks on Iranian nuclear sites. Iran did nothing in return.
Hamas finished.
Hezbollah leadership gone.
Syria lost to Israel and its condom Erdogan. Iran is still calling Turkey a brother country.
Iranian 100 Billion USD + thousands of soldiers' lives spent on the Levant wasted to dirt.
Houthis are getting bombed on daily basis now.
Iranian GDP is halved because of sanctions, Riyal now worth toilet paper.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Trump folded from global tariffs and preferred to focus just on China after huge pressure

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Iran should not blink first but we already agreed to direct negotiations and tried to hide that from everyone to avoid embarrassment until Trump spilled the beans

 

[Tijani]

Trump folded from global tariffs and preferred to focus just on China after huge pressure

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Iran should not blink first but we already agreed to direct negotiations and tried to hide that from everyone to avoid embarrassment until Trump spilled the beans

You are again taking someone else's word, in this case the orange manchild"s, against the word of Iranian officials and conflating it with truth. I'd rather believe the word of a prostitute than western officials, especially Trump, even though they're both in the same business.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Reformists want to negotiate with West in middle of war

Masoud pezeshkian is even more coward than bani sadr who betrayed Iran in middle of war against Iraq

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[Hack-Hook]

As an Ousoulgara , I preferred to not write any name on my vote in previous election

Interesting, monarchist also had same sentiment.

 

[Lulldapull]

Very interesting discussion with Prof. Mearsheimer:

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I believe most sane Americans are onto Netanyahu's desperate attempts at involving the US into a new quagmire in Iran.

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[F-22Raptor]

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An entire Patriot battalion has been moved to Centcom which consist of 4 Patriot batteries or 32 Patriot launchers.

 

[F-22Raptor]

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[That_Guy]

Trump folded from global tariffs and preferred to focus just on China after huge pressure

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Iran should not blink first but we already agreed to direct negotiations and tried to hide that from everyone to avoid embarrassment until Trump spilled the beans

I dont think asking for direct negotiations is blinking. Instead it's giving Trump a dilemma. I'd even say that Trump spilling the beans is a good thing for Iran.

Iran comes out the rational actor and good guy, and puts pressure on Trump to not take military actions, unless he wants to destroy the republican party for the next 50 years.

The Europeans would almost certainly reject any help to the US attacking Iran, or even further sanctions.

So Trump ends up with the dilemma of attacking and potentially being politically ruined, as well as geopolitically isolating the USA even further than it currently is under him. OR negotiating, and his successor (or himself if he somehow runs for a third term) losing for negotiating because AIPAC ended up funding his political opponents in retaliation (AIPAC has a nearly 100% electoral success rate).

The only out he would have is literally not doing anything in regards to Iran, but everyone knows he's too much of a narcissist idiot to simply stay away, so he has no choice but to decide what he wants to do.

For Iran,.it's much simpler. Offer negotiations fully expecting them to fail, go on a diplomatic blitz in Europe, and prepare for a potential war with the US and Israel.

 

[Kermit]

Disarmament.

The world doesn't revolve around Pakistan.

Back during peak of terrorism, Americans did try to built a narrative for public in order to attempt get their hands on our nukes but it's too little too late for them to attempt any seizure now.

Discussing surrender or military action against Pakistan by U.S. is a waste of bandwidth tbh.

What can come into play is the role of Pakistan if (when) U.S. strikes Iran. Pakistan sharing border can both help or spoil military actions against Iran during time of conflict.

It is imperative that Iranian and Pakistan leadership sits together and clarify things because U.S. does have plans against Iran prepped up and it will be naive to think they won't reach out to Pakistan to clear their path (even if we play neutral).

 

[F-22Raptor]

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