Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Pakistani Dragon]

... The United States is well aware that Iran has found a viable path for a religious state to achieve industrialization,emerging as a beacon for Shiite organizations.Lifting sanctions on Iran would also quickly alter the existing order in the Middle East region.Sunni countries also perceive that lifting sanctions on Iran by the United States would effectively acknowledge Iran’s status as a regional power. ...

Not really. A lot of trade deals between Gulf Arab countries and Iran can overcome differences and hostilities.

I think this what both sides want at the moment rather the trying to remove each other's Governments.

 

[Falcon29]

 

[Falcon29]

 

[Persian Gulf]

Araghchi is a great diplomat and he has been very very busy lately travelling all across the region every day

He is a very effective communicator on Twitter too, he understand American society very well

 

[hyperman]

It would be absolutely foolish for Iran to give up Nuclear enrichment. All that Hard Work to be dismantled, and no guarantee that they won't attack you once they have defanged you.

Both Iraq and Libya were attacked after they gave up their nuclear programs.

If anything I think Iran should be building more facilities deep deep underneath mountains, and buying S-400s, Beriev A-100s, Su-35s and further deepening their air defenses.

Sanctions don't mean anything especially when the Emergence of China and the Breakoff of Russia from the West is diminishing their potential. If Iran is able to hang on a bit longer, that Sanctions hegemony is going to collapse on its own with China's growth/markets. The US cannot stay in the Middle East Long Term anyways, its pivoting towards the East Asia confrontation. Its already withdrawing from Europe. Iran just needs time and patience.

 

[Persian Gulf]

It would be absolutely foolish for Iran to give up Nuclear enrichment. All that Hard Work to be dismantled, and no guarantee that they won't attack you once they have defanged you.

Araghchi today:

If anything I think Iran should be building more facilities deep deep underneath mountains, and buying S-400s, Beriev A-100s, Su-35s and further deepening their air defenses.

"Near a peak of the Zagros Mountains in central Iran, workers are building a nuclear facility so deep in the earth that it is likely beyond the range of a last-ditch U.S. weapon designed to destroy such sites, according to experts and satellite imagery analyzed by The Associated Press."

An Iranian nuclear facility is so deep underground that US airstrikes likely couldn’t reach it

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Near a peak of the Zagros Mountains in central Iran, workers are building a nuclear facility so deep in the earth that it is likely beyond the range of a last-ditch U.S. weapon designed to destroy such sites, according to experts and satellite imagery analyzed by T

apnews.com

deepest facility yet is under construction under Zagros mountains next to the existing Natanz enrichment site

 

[tsunset]

 

[LeGenD]

Such claims can lead to underestimation or hubris. Iraqi defenses downed dozens of NATO aircraft in war in 1991. If the war had been limited to airstrikes, Iraq would have claimed victory. The US aimed to stop anti-shipping activity in Red Sea, no army was deployed to capitalize on the exploits of the Air Force to defeat Houthi on the ground like in 1991. Houthi can claim victory but they agreed to not attack ships in Red Sea like in the past so maybe they too realize that they should not give the US an opportunity to expand the war.

Israel attacked Iran in 2024 and produced effects they desired. Therefore, operational realities of one region may not be a good predictor of the operational realities in another region.

Iran can put up a fight and attack different locations in the ME but also have many high value targets that can be struck. The best option would be to prevent war and find a way forward.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Yemen unbelievably resistant to US/Israel attacks, Israel admits "Yemen is completely different from Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas"

Yemen has a population of 40 million and is a large mountainous country.

It's not a comparison to hamas or Hezbollah groups in small countries of Lebanon or gaza

 

[Kyussis]

Unfortunately, We do not lake people in our own Government who would love to get down and dirty with the U.S for a promise of some U.S dollars!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

North Korea went Nuclear , did anything happen to it ? Past 10 years ?
Nothing

There you go

Sometimes simplest explanation is best

 

[MH.Yang]

In hindsight, Khamenei looks a lot like Emperor Jiajing of China's Ming Dynasty. Pity about Suleimani.

 

[Watandar]

North Korea went Nuclear , did anything happen to it ? Past 10 years ?
Nothing

There you go

Sometimes simplest explanation is best

Who wants to live like North Korea ? Neither Pakistanis nor Iranians do. Another example is people in Pakistan who admire Taliban so much, but dont want to live in Afghanistan.

 

[MH.Yang]

Negotiating with Trump was banned. The reformist traitors just rebranded their new betrayal to indirect negotiations. What the hell is that?

Raisi's government's negotiations with Biden admin was from position of strength. Trump is a different story, i don't think that you need me to explain that orange crap whose daughter has to be afraid of him in the midnight.

Not even China that is known for providing USA with cheap workers accepted to negotiate under Trump's conditions. Logic says that its a waste of time.

Or, the same person is behind both the reformers and the anti-reformers. This person keeps the two factions second-guessing themselves and fighting each other to maintain the balance of power. When floods come, he governs only floods; when earthquakes come, he governs only earthquakes. In the end, all that is accomplished is the power of one man, who never actually had the ambition to revive the nation and civilization. I even wonder now if the reason for Leahy's death was that he presided over the Iranian-Saudi rapprochement, which led to a surge in his influence that threatened someone's absolute authority.

 

[LeGenD]

It would be absolutely foolish for Iran to give up Nuclear enrichment. All that Hard Work to be dismantled, and no guarantee that they won't attack you once they have defanged you.

Both Iraq and Libya were attacked after they gave up their nuclear programs.

If anything I think Iran should be building more facilities deep deep underneath mountains, and buying S-400s, Beriev A-100s, Su-35s and further deepening their air defenses.

Sanctions don't mean anything especially when the Emergence of China and the Breakoff of Russia from the West is diminishing their potential. If Iran is able to hang on a bit longer, that Sanctions hegemony is going to collapse on its own with China's growth/markets. The US cannot stay in the Middle East Long Term anyways, its pivoting towards the East Asia confrontation. Its already withdrawing from Europe. Iran just needs time and patience.

Russian expedition in Ukraine was a disaster. It was assumed that Russia would overwhelm Eastern Europe but Russian advances are checked in Ukraine and Russian economy have also taken a hit due to sanctions. Trump was scolding Zelensky in public but made a deal with Ukraine. Russia is now under pressure to negotiate with Ukraine. American pivot to the Pacific is but a pressure tactic on China to keep it at bay there with support of Japan and Australia but the US is also in talks with China while South Korea is developing sophisticated military capability to check North Korea. The US have no plan to shut down CENTCOM. The US have a strategic footprint in the Middle East via Israel, Qatar and Kuwait. Iraq and Syria were subjected to regime change in succession. Israel have destroyed Gaza and virtually crippled Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria with American support. Trump administration have made new deals with the GCC and in talks with Iran. The Middle East is being reshaped to the tune of the Abraham Accords and to facilitate IMEC.

The Houthi have reportedly agreed to not attack ships in Red Sea. The Houthi can attack Israel but cannot stop it in its tracks and facing counter-attacks. Iranian options are now limited because Iran has lost ground in Syria. China have massive levels of trade with the WEST and Chinese companies are not immune to sanctions.

Iran now have difficult choices: To continue on the path as per your suggestion (or) negotiate a different outcome. It is a gambit in either case. One of these choices might turn out to be the best course for Iran. Which is it? Nobody have the crystal ball, right? My guess is to find a way to appease Trump.

Trump's strategic gameplay is stunning and have put many on the backfoot. Many were mocking him initially in all platforms but now finding out the hard way that his game is above their paygrade.

As for the kinetic options, the US also have strategic bunker busters to destroy anything underground. Chinese research also admits such possibility. This option might not be considered but underground facilities have been destroyed or rendered useless with strictly conventional payload in different wars. It comes down to "mission planning." Let's not be in hubris.