Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Keep going Iran. KEEP FUCKING GOING.
Now is time for China to step in, Iran showed resilience and capability what they need is support and protection from america intervention.
Some public flights from China will do and send adequate message, that or Iran will be forced in case of american intervention to go full berserk and regional destruction with global consequences.
 
Somebody with a Squirrel Profile pic and 300K followers saying that "they" are gonna destroy Iran. I bet even the Martians are trembling. Very Legit !

why are you bashing Iran based on such a random nobody tweet ?
He very accurately called out how the nuclear talks will play out. First to say this whole Trump/Netanyahu supposed fight is drama. They are on the same page. Has been banned and shadow banned multiple time on X.
 
Well whatever they are blabbering it's got peoples ears perked up, what can you expect from a nation of professional liars.
*cough* Ahem........I'm an American (though accused of being an Indian Wahhabi troll whatever that is). My view is; Israel started this. Let them and Iran punch each other silly until they've decided they've had enough. Each side can only puff their 56" chests for so long.

Got enough problems here at home without having to run off and deal with someone else's. We need to sit one out for awhile.
 
After all this tit for tat I believe only Americans and Britain’s will support Israel, Europe maybe scratch there head and shake head but

I guess either it got hacked or operator was fucking pissed and went into suicidal mood. He was like mai to dooba hu sanam tum sab ko sath mai le dobo ga 😂😂
Hey iran is claiming that it hacked the system to be used against israel..
 
*cough* Ahem........I'm an American (though accused of being an Indian Wahhabi troll whatever that is). My view is; Israel started this. Let them and Iran punch each other silly until they've decided they've had enough. Each side can only puff their 56" chests for so long.

Got enough problems here at home without having to run off and deal with someone else's. We need to sit one out for awhile.

The US will ultimately join, one way or another, an I suspect that will happen sooner than most people realize. Israel can’t sustain these hits for more than 2-5 days.
 



baku can't go away without paying the price
 
By your logic, no aircraft should ever use their radar because they would be shot down. Aircraft radar and EW suite exist for a purpose, especially the latest gen.



Limited coverage over key sites is better than zero coverage right now.
Plus aircraft can be moved around the country at will. This will also render useless any data collected from their previous location.
You are rigth, it is all they need, limited key areas around biggest cities and strategic objects to be protected from unpunished air attacks. They will not cover desserts and mountain constellations.
 
Now is time for China to step in, Iran showed resilience and capability what they need is support and protection from america intervention.
Some public flights from China will do and send adequate message, that or Iran will be forced in case of american intervention to go full berserk and regional destruction with global consequences.
Israel's actions have pushed Russia, China and Turkiye together as the trio all fear US/western hegemony in the region. Russia and China have no appetite to taking overt action like providing weapons to Iran, their support will be more subtle and diplomatic.

Lets start with Iran's most powerful ally - Russia:

Russia will NOT allow the "regime " change wet-dream being proposed. But Russia is also close to Israel and regardless of what people think, the Kremlin has very good chemistry with Israel.

Russia has no military treaty with Iran but does have a strategic economic and cultural treaty with Iran, Russia and Iran have balanced relations - Russia is trying to improve relations with the US, Russia doesn't want to undermine its relations with Israel (even after Israel and US transferred Patriot batteries to Ukraine - it stayed sweet with Israel).

Moscow has a role to play in conjunction with Beijing to help as intermediaries or guarantors. If there is an agreement, Russia and China WILL be key players in rebuilding the Iranian Economy (you will see this happen).

Because the real struggle will come for Iran after the conflict - the rebuilding phase.

China:
China will give the same neutral "call for calm" "peace" statement all very business like - Obstacle in the ME - China may be the "big loser" in the changes in the region here - because China's main objective is grow the Anti Western sphere of influence.

China's primary interests are "low cost" energy supply and it has no interest in projecting its military power in the region - the Chinese are businessmen, they will adopt the political route and aim to prevent instability in Iran that will undoubtedly occur if there were a forced regime change.

[Not good for either China or Russia strategically], if oil prices go up - and the Saudi Aramco shares went up today by 1.73%.

Turkiye:
Leaving Turkiye
, I seriously double they will offer any material support but Turkiye sees Iran as a Frenemy, as Iranian members here will know Ankara and Tehran both have been very competitive in Syria. Iran's peaceful nuclear program poses no threat to Turkiye, however if Iran were to develop a credible nuclear weapon program, Turkiye may pivot towards the language of its western partners.

I do think that where Turkiye will find cause will be to prevent Israel's ambitions for forced violent regime change.

Turkish foreign policy has been conservative - and is sceptical of forceful regime change, specially from "aboard" poses geopolitical risk for Turkiye, so they will oppose this and support Iran. Turkiye also fears undocumented human migration if Iran is destabilised.
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Iran stands much to gain by siding with China in the long term.
 
The US will ultimately join, one way or another, an I suspect that will happen sooner than most people realize. Israel can’t sustain these hits for more than 2-5 days.
You're probably going to be right and I'm going to be wrong.

Nor do I think can Iran. I admire the enthusiasm of everyone here for Iran's abilities but I'm also a realist. If this thing escalates like I think it can and probably will, this is going to get real ugly.
 
Israel's actions have pushed Russia, China and Turkiye together as the trio all fear US/western hegemony in the region. Russia and China have no appetite to taking overt action like providing weapons to Iran, their support will be more subtle and diplomatic.

Lets start with Iran's most powerful ally - Russia:

Russia will NOT allow the "regime " change wet-dream being proposed. But Russia is also close to Israel and regardless of what people think, the Kremlin has very good chemistry with Israel.

Russia has no military treaty with Iran but does have a strategic economic and cultural treaty with Iran, Russia and Iran have balanced relations - Russia is trying to improve relations with the US, Russia doesn't want to undermine its relations with Israel (even after Israel and US transferred Patriot batteries to Ukraine - it stayed sweet with Israel).

Moscow has a role to play in conjunction with Beijing to help as intermediaries or guarantors. If there is an agreement, Russia and China WILL be key players in rebuilding the Iranian Economy (you will see this happen).

Because the real struggle will come for Iran after the conflict - the rebuilding phase.

China:
China will give the same neutral "call for calm" "peace" statement all very business like - Obstacle in the ME - China may be the "big loser" in the changes in the region here - because China's main objective is grow the Anti Western sphere of influence.

China's primary interests are "low cost" energy supply and it has no interest in projecting its military power in the region - the Chinese are businessmen, they will adopt the political route and aim to prevent instability in Iran that will undoubtedly occur if there were a forced regime change.

[Not good for either China or Russia strategically], if oil prices go up - and the Saudi Aramco shares went up today by 1.73%.

Turkiye:
Leaving Turkiye
, I seriously double they will offer any material support but Turkiye sees Iran as a Frenemy, as Iranian members here will know Ankara and Tehran both have been very competitive in Syria. Iran's peaceful nuclear program poses no threat to Turkiye, however if Iran were to develop a credible nuclear weapon program, Turkiye may pivot towards the language of its western partners.

I do think that where Turkiye will find cause will be to prevent Israel's ambitions for forced violent regime change.

Turkish foreign policy has been conservative - and is sceptical of forceful regime change, specially from "aboard" poses geopolitical risk for Turkiye, so they will oppose this and support Iran. Turkiye also fears undocumented human migration if Iran is destabilised.
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Iran stands much to gain by siding with China in the long term.
For this particular moment real time inteligence and data sharing would be great start and boost for containing damage and limiting attacks, that can be done both by russia and china.
On strategic level what China can do without any risk for them self is to ask Teheran what kind of materials and tools they need to restore their AD network by them self in fastest possible time.
 
You're probably going to be right and I'm going to be wrong.

Nor do I think can Iran. I admire the enthusiasm of everyone here for Iran's abilities but I'm also a realist. If this thing escalates like I think it can and probably will, this is going to get real ugly.
If it escalates , That would be whole Nato against iran..... But what will happen to their bases and carriers ? iran has not used its naval capabilities.... Will Nato be able to withstand the pressure of cruise and ballistic missiles rained at them in indian ocean ??
 
For this particular moment real time inteligence and data sharing would be great start and boost for containing damage and limiting attacks, that can be done both by russia and china.
On strategic level what China can do without any risk for them self is to ask Teheran what kind of materials and tools they need to restore their AD network by them self in fastest possible time.
Agreed. And that is perfectly doable for a nation like China, China has the largest low orbit satellite constellation in the world known as Qianfan and it's growing every year until it reaches 13,000 satellites 😅.
 

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