Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

AZ_HighCountry said:
As I give this more thought, wouldn't need to penetrate into the main structure.

Hit the entrances instead. But that is akin to whack-a-mole.
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lol no mate. Attacking an entrance doesn’t magically cause the entire entrance tunnel to collapse. The entrance is blocked until the Iranians clear it out. That’s it . It won’t destroy anything inside of the entrance.
 
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Nukes won't be used for the simple reason that nobody wants to be the first one to break the nuclear Taboo
 
Sinan said:
I don't know about these but as i earlier said, i'm listening to Turkish experts, they also had some serious critics about Iran, let me relay these critics to you.

- When the Shah fell, Iran was like 3rd military force in the world. They were superior to everyone else in the region but in quantity and quality. Okay, they had 10 year war and sanctions. But they completely neglected their air force. They had 47 years and absolutely done nothing for their air force. You can not protect skies by relying entirely on your anti-air missiles.

- Iranian intelligence completely failed on counter-intelligence. The expert who said this (Ali Burak Darıcılı - ex-MIT personel). If it was up to me, i would fire everyone in Savama and re-organize, re-structure it. That organization has lots of breaches and it not only at the low levels, some key figures working for Mossad.
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We tried acquiring su-35 from Russia. I don’t know what happened to the deal. Iran also heavily focuses on being self reliant, and I think we are too far away from producing anything close to a 5th gen. But I agree we should have a decent Air Force regardless, but it’s difficult when no one is wiling to sell us planes. Maybe China will in the future.

I also agree that counter intelligence failed and needs to be completely restructured, but Iran has been mossads focus for decades.
 
Xiaolong said:
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In a way she is right on the last part, No nuclear power wants more countries to have nukes because it has no benefit for them.
 
Toxic said:
It was arrogance and delusional confidence in old systems that led them here.
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Even a few months back they acquired Su-35, they were hell bent on Russian aircraft even though Russian electronics, software, avionics are completely outdated and outclassed by the Chinese.

If they had a fleet of J-10C and Chinese AEW&C, AWACS, Radar and missiles, 80% of the Israeli air attacks could have been thwarted. Majority of Israeli fleet is F-16 and F-15, J-10C can easily take on those.
 
White Privilege said:
multiple hits at precise intervals to deepen the crater would finally reach the desired depth.....
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Yes if the bunker is build under earth soil you could stack the bombs hitting the same hole over and over until you have reached the desired depth.. unfortunately smart Iranians build there’s under solid mountain Rock and explosive don’t do much to granite Rock. 🤘
 
Bengal71 said:
Even a few months back they acquired Su-35, they were hell bent on Russian aircraft even though Russian electronics, software, avionics are completely outdated and outclassed by the Chinese.

If they had a fleet of J-10C and Chinese AEW&C, AWACS, Radar and missiles, 80% of the Israeli air attacks could have been thwarted. Majority of Israeli fleet is F-16 and F-15, J-10C can easily take on those.
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Well the SU-35 deal was likely paid for by all the drones Iran provided to Russia also building up a airforce from essentially scratch is pretty difficult.
 
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Looks like Netanyahu time is up? Regime change in Israel?
 
Toxic said:
Well the SU-35 deal was likely paid for by all the drones Iran provided to Russia
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Possibly, but they could get something else from Russia for the drones and could get Chinese aircraft. It was totally within Iranian capacity to build a fleet of 100-150 J-10C in the last 10 years. They simply sat there and practically grounded their air force.
 
Bengal71 said:
Even a few months back they acquired Su-35, they were hell bent on Russian aircraft even though Russian electronics, software, avionics are completely outdated and outclassed by the Chinese.

If they had a fleet of J-10C and Chinese AEW&C, AWACS, Radar and missiles, 80% of the Israeli air attacks could have been thwarted. Majority of Israeli fleet is F-16 and F-15, J-10C can easily take on those.
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China wasn’t willing to sell us any planes mainly due to fear of US sanctions
 
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