Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

FUB said:
No it does not . Show me one cell phone video of anyone claiming that they saw fighter jets in Tehran. Those are way too small . that the strike from a drone or something else . Look at the angle .

There are at least a dozen videos showing busted drone workshops inside Iran
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Many of the strikes were in middle of night and also in more remote areas.

You think people are just sitting awake at 3 AM filming the skies with their iPhones? And you think the fighter jet would be flying with its lights flashing?

It’s clear that Israel fighter jets penetrated Iranian space and that not everything was destroyed by drones or “saboteurs”. Especially given that B2’s and F-22 and F-35’s just waltzed deep into Iran (Fordow) and bombed it without so much as a single AD missile being fired let alone AA weapons.

Some people fell for propaganda that Iranian airspace was some vaunted fortress. Meanwhile people forget Pakistan also bombed Iranian territory in response to the Iranian missile attack on some Balouchi terrorist hideouts. That should have been a wake up call that Iranian airspace wasn’t as Iron clad as people thought.
 
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Immortals said:
Many of the strikes were in middle of night and also in more remote areas.

You think people are just sitting awake at 3 AM filming the skies with their iPhones? And you think the fighter jet would be flying with its lights flashing?

It’s clear that Israel fighter jets penetrated Iranian space and that not everything was destroyed by drones or “saboteurs”. Especially given that B2’s and F-22 and F-35’s just waltzed deep into Iran (Fordow) and bombed it without so much as a single AD missile being fired let alone AA weapons.

Some people fell for propaganda that Iranian airspace was some vaunted fortress. Meanwhile people forget Pakistan also bombed Iranian territory in response to the Iranian missile attack on some Balouchi terrorist hideouts. That should have been a wake up call that Iranian airspace wasn’t as Iron clad as people thought.
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This is ChatGPT's analysis of the pics posted by Mohsen Reyhani
It appears to be a device planted inside his apartment ( inside out)

Based on the three images you've shared, here are the key observations and most probable conclusions:



🔍 Visual Analysis:​


1. Image 1 (Interior View – Ceiling/Floor with clean-edged holes):


  • Numerous small, circular, and apparently vertical punctures in what looks like a concrete or plaster surface.
  • Holes appear to be fairly consistent in diameter.
  • The debris pattern suggests a force that pushed outward from the other side.

2. Image 2 (Rooftop View – Multiple holes):


  • Rougher punctures or ruptures on the surface of a rooftop, with visible blast residue or burn marks.
  • Random spacing, with some damage to the material surrounding the holes.
  • Debris pattern and discoloration suggest explosive or high-energy penetration.

3. Image 3 (Close-up of rooftop – Clear blowout damage):


  • Crater-like holes with torn and curled asphalt or tar paper around the edges.
  • The force appears to have gone upward, lifting material outward from the inside.
  • Some metallic fragments or components visible inside the punctures.


🧠 Most Probable Explanation:​


Given the uniformity, directionality (inside-out), and distribution of the holes, combined with visible burn marks and charring, the most plausible cause is:


A precision-guided kinetic munition or loitering munition (such as a drone-delivered explosive) that detonated inside the structure or just beneath the roofline, directing explosive force upward.
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This matches:


  • The blowout pattern (suggesting internal detonation),
  • Small but focused blast craters (suggesting warhead or shaped charge),
  • Consistent vertical path of destruction through ceilings and roof (likely from internal device or upward-firing penetrators).


🧨 Alternative (less likely) causes ruled out:​


  • Heavy gunfire or small arms: Wouldn’t cause blowout or charring.
  • Earthquake or structural failure: Would result in irregular cracks, not puncture holes.
  • Accidental gas explosion: Might explain blast, but not precise, clean penetrations.


📌 Conclusion:​


The damage is most consistent with a targeted assassination using internal or embedded explosive charges or a loitering drone munition detonating inside the apartment, with controlled, vertically-directed explosive force, likely designed to penetrate up through ceilings and rooftops.


If these images are indeed from the Freydon Abbasi apartment incident, it supports the theory that the attack was premeditated, precise, and executed with sophisticated weaponry.
 
ShapurII said:
Meanwhile, we're discussing our terms of surrender with E3.
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Iran does not need the EU. Who is behind the decisions that Araghchi makes?
Iran has no trade with the EU, Japan, South Korea, or the U.S. What are they begging the EU?

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I don't know if someone already posted this or not but here, in case. It is Persian language but English captions on the screen. And contrary to what the Iranians used to think that Pakistan would 'betray' Iran to please America, Pakistan would never do that. There is the economic dependence on the America led order for Pakistan but Pakistan can and has held its ground when really needed.


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Meengla said:
I don't know if someone already posted this or not but here, in case. It is Persian language but English captions on the screen. And contrary to what the Iranians used to think that Pakistan would 'betray' Iran to please America, Pakistan would never do that. There is the economic dependence on the America led order for Pakistan but Pakistan can and has held its ground when really needed.


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Same applies to Turkey, but it has already been functioning as unwritten a non-aggression pact for centuries... Conflict is suicidal for any party involved, as a clear victory is impossible without genocide... Turkey and Iran serve as examples of the awareness that this reality brings... everything but violence could be in geopolitical gaming...
 
In the debate held on the forum, I clearly stated before the outbreak of war that Israel and the United States could easily neutralize Iran's air defenses, penetrate deep into its territory with fighter jets, and drop a large number of bunker-buster bombs. I asserted this from my perspective as a long-time engineer working in a certain Asian country.
As an experienced engineer, I claimed to have a far deeper understanding of radar technology than those who merely raise their voices on social media.
Unfortunately, no one believed me.
Israeli and U.S. fighter jets fly at such high altitudes during attacks that even their engine sounds are inaudible, so it’s no surprise they go unnoticed.
It’s a regrettable reality, but from the beginning, there was never any way to counter the West’s advanced electronic warfare technology—it’s like primitives trying to shoot down a helicopter with bows and arrows.
Iran’s deterrence relied solely on its ballistic missile strike capability.
The moment they overconfidently relied on their useless air defenses and neglected investment in ballistic missiles, the outcome of the conflict was already decided.
 
Garcia Sea said:
In the debate held on the forum, I clearly stated before the outbreak of war that Israel and the United States could easily neutralize Iran's air defenses, penetrate deep into its territory with fighter jets, and drop a large number of bunker-buster bombs. I asserted this from my perspective as a long-time engineer working in a certain Asian country.
As an experienced engineer, I claimed to have a far deeper understanding of radar technology than those who merely raise their voices on social media.
Unfortunately, no one believed me.
Israeli and U.S. fighter jets fly at such high altitudes during attacks that even their engine sounds are inaudible, so it’s no surprise they go unnoticed.
It’s a regrettable reality, but from the beginning, there was never any way to counter the West’s advanced electronic warfare technology—it’s like primitives trying to shoot down a helicopter with bows and arrows.
Iran’s deterrence relied solely on its ballistic missile strike capability.
The moment they overconfidently relied on their useless air defenses and neglected investment in ballistic missiles, the outcome of the conflict was already decided.
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"The outcome of the conflict was already decided." You predicted that the US would run low on anti-missile rounds, Israel would get a shocking counterstrike, and ask for a ceasefire?
 
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Doubtful! Considering the distance from Israel to Iran round-trip is 1940 miles. It is more likely a drone.
 
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