Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

RP is a lightweight in politics and has had no meaningful effect on the opposition in the past four decades. We can say hes useless.

useless is if he tried to be good opposition but failed

openly siding with Israel to this extent is different to useless

 

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[nang2]

Where did Iran’s Arab supporters disappear?​

Abdulrahman al-Rashed
Published: 18 August ,2025: 04:30 PM GSTUpdated: 18 August ,2025: 04:55 PM GST

A deathly silence looms over the Arab street, unmoved by the wave of dramatic events in the region. We have not seen demonstrations, protests, or sit-ins in the Arab countries, and in my view, this is the first time in seven decades or more that such displays have vanished!

What has befallen Iran is no small matter; its military losses and nuclear facilities are immense, facilities that cost billions of dollars and much blood and sweat to build. To its ballistic and nuclear losses, we can add the loss of the popular current it had cultivated across the region, from Iraq to Morocco.

When the Lebanese government took its bold decision to confiscate Hezbollah’s weapons, the response was limited to just a few dozen motorcycles roaming Beirut’s streets in protest! So what happened to the human waves, the millions who once flooded the streets at a mere gesture from the party’s leader or from Tehran?

The collapse of Iranian influence is clear within Arab regions, like the collapse of Nasserism after its defeat in the 1967 war. It lost the ability to mobilize the street and resorted to relying on its socialist party members and labor unions to attend events after the masses, who once filled the squares with passion and spontaneity in response to radio appeals that dominated people’s awareness and emotions for nearly two decades, dwindled. In the wake of that defeat, a sense of shock and betrayal spread across the region, which had been waiting for the liberation of Palestine.

Iran, too, once enjoyed dominance and popular support in the region, defying attempts to block its ideas and curb its activities. It managed to raise generations of Arabs on its ideas. Tehran opened its doors and arms to extremist Sunnis, including leaders of al-Qaeda, overlooking their anti-Shia ideology, and supported most Sunni opposition groups and movements against their governments. It built an organic, deeply coordinated relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood. It organized nearly annual conferences and seminars for Arab nationalists and communists. It spent heavily to woo Arab politicians and intellectuals; books were published and odes of praise were written in support of the Imam’s regime and in its defense. Tehran gathered Shias, Sunnis, and Arab Christians alike – thinkers from the Gulf, Egypt, the Levant, the Maghreb, Sudan, Yemen, and Arab diaspora communities. It climbed onto many Arab media outlets to promote Khamenei’s line. At times, we could hardly understand how it managed to reconcile all these contradictions! In Tripoli, Lebanon – a city with tensions against the Shias of Beirut – there were Sunni groups that, since the 1980s, continued to pledge allegiance to Tehran. In Jordan, among the Muslim Brotherhood, some openly declared their affection for Tehran’s leaders. Numerous works emerged in its defense: in Egypt, for example, Iran and Political Islam; in Kuwait, Iran and the West: Conflict of Interests; in the Gulf, conferences were held under the banner of “rapprochement” between sects, celebrating the history of Abbasid Caliph al-Nasir li-Din Allah.

All these activities might have been laudable, were it not for the fact that the intentions behind them were not purely for the sake of God Almighty, nor out of love for ending or easing sectarian strife, but rather as part of a political project of domination.

Tehran was managing elite and grassroots movements in dozens of Arab cities; protests against novels, films, negotiations, and regimes.

But in the recent wars, following the October 2023 attacks, the kind of mobilization we were used to in every confrontation faded. The first reason: people do not admire the defeated. The second: the apparatuses that used to orchestrate these gatherings have lost their connections and their resources have dried up. The Arab street venerates the victorious hero until he falls, then replaces him with another hero.

Its believers have been shaken by successive defeats, just as Nasserists were shattered by the setbacks of the 1960s. The remaining challenge is to hold on to its supporters within its Shiite popular base; they are the ones most harmed and who still live the trauma of shock. With time, the Shias of Lebanon will come to realize the truth: that they are victims of Hezbollah and Iran, that it is a burden on them rather than a support. For four decades they have borne the confrontation with Israel and the consequences of ties with Iran: economic and personal sanctions, the destruction of their areas and neighborhoods, the targeting of their remittances from Africa and the Americas, and more.

Why does it feel like some kind of boneless piece of crap?

 

[Shafagh]

Why does it feel like some kind of boneless piece of crap?

He has at least some points. There is going to be growing resentment everytime Israel targets Lebanon over Hezbollah.

It's not like Iran is able to resupply them anytime soon or send advisors/IRGC to aid.

Arabs aren't that reliable to begin with. History has demonstrated this time and time again. Yemen is the sole exception.

I wonder what a strategic pivot east would look like i.e build a pact with Pakistan, Uzbekistan, China. If not security, at the very least economic free trade zones, with Yemen being the exception. I remember reading, Yemeni are descendents of Persian warriors who settled there in ancient times.

Iran cannot afford to pour money into the arab world.

 

[Jalz]

He has at least some points. There is going to be growing resentment everytime Israel targets Lebanon over Hezbollah.

It's not like Iran is able to resupply them anytime soon or send advisors/IRGC to aid.

Arabs aren't that reliable to begin with. History has demonstrated this time and time again. Yemen is the sole exception.

I wonder what a strategic pivot east would look like i.e build a pact with Pakistan, Uzbekistan, China. If not security, at the very least economic free trade zones, with Yemen being the exception. I remember reading, Yemeni are descendents of Persian warriors who settled there in ancient times.

Iran cannot afford to pour money into the arab world.

Unilaterally abandoning offensive actions against Israel is needed. Either we have to support Saudi Arabia's peace plan with Israel or withdraw from the conflict completely. Iran is not going up against Israel when it fights Israel. It goes up against the US, France, Germany, the UK, and all of Israel's Gentile colonial troops. Iran was effectively fighting the Western nations without actually fighting them during the 12-day war. Fighting Israel by ourselves is futile because Israel receives infinite aid and protection from the western nations. Its better to let the arabs and turks to wake up, then we can take action against them.

 

[FUB]

The leadership in Iran needs to wake up. Interesting fact , that tiny little country AKA Blackmail, murder, and child rape Capital of the world spent nearly all of its AD in the 12 day war .

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[FUB]

I posted about this arrest when it happened. Since then various posts and even US Congress women MTG has spoken about it . It is a perfect example of who rules the West and shines a light on what is well known . The empire is completely captured by that worldwide cabal that resides in that tiny country.
The leaders is Iran must wake up from their sleep. If want to negotiate, they need to head to Tel Aviv or get ready for the next round . Funny thing is that when posts are made by real analysts they are dismissed as pedos but the real pedos control the likes of Mohsen Reyhani and walk free .

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[muhammed45]

His unnecessary courting of Nazi Germany led directly to UK-USSR invasion, which indirectly led us to our current situation. His rule marked the beginning of direct European intervention in Iran which we had avoided for centuries.

Hahah, so funny to read comments of those who try to elevate UK's and US' dogs to the level of some great kings.

We had 2 so called kings from Palani gypsies who had nothing to do with noble Iranian families. Reza Palani was a Kazak piece of shit, always drunk and owed his power to Brits that helped him conduct coup against remaining child of Qajars.

Pahlavi era is a shameful and dark page of Iranian history. All you hear from pro Pahlavi idiots is, hey we bought fighter jet,we bought this, we bought that. You will never see them say, hey we produced this, we created that.

On the other hand، after Islamic revolution, Iran turned into a regional power rising with own hand on the knee. We developed nuclear technology without giving a shit about Russian aid or Germans' leaving the country. We fought for 8 years to keep Iranian identity untouched. Iran single handedly fought back against the whole NATO including Israel in the recent conflict. Iran's leader was present in a mosque shortly after 12 days war while standing like a mountain.

Guess what Pahlavis did. Reza Palani died in exile while his British masters expelled him to an island in the middle of no where and closed him to a tree. M. R. Pahlavi scaped Iran for 2 times when he saw people rising against him seeking shelter behind his American masters.

2 kings and 3 times scaping the country. In non of Iranian dysnasty we had such a losers. Romans wet their pants when they heard names of Sassanid kings. Pahlavis opened their legs at westerner's will.

Pahlavis were some kind of current Arab kinglets and maybe worse. Americans took ride of Pahlavis like a donkey rider.

But all in all its fun to read non sense of these pro Pahlavi guys.

 

[nang2]

He has at least some points. There is going to be growing resentment everytime Israel targets Lebanon over Hezbollah.

It's not like Iran is able to resupply them anytime soon or send advisors/IRGC to aid.

Arabs aren't that reliable to begin with. History has demonstrated this time and time again. Yemen is the sole exception.

I wonder what a strategic pivot east would look like i.e build a pact with Pakistan, Uzbekistan, China. If not security, at the very least economic free trade zones, with Yemen being the exception. I remember reading, Yemeni are descendents of Persian warriors who settled there in ancient times.

Iran cannot afford to pour money into the arab world.

I know. I meant boneless-ness on the Arab part.

 

[Shafagh]

Unilaterally abandoning offensive actions against Israel is needed. Either we have to support Saudi Arabia's peace plan with Israel or withdraw from the conflict completely. Iran is not going up against Israel when it fights Israel. It goes up against the US, France, Germany, the UK, and all of Israel's Gentile colonial troops. Iran was effectively fighting the Western nations without actually fighting them during the 12-day war. Fighting Israel by ourselves is futile because Israel receives infinite aid and protection from the western nations. Its better to let the arabs and turks to wake up, then we can take action against them.

So to put it simply; Iran bit off more than it could chew with zero benefit.

 

[BigMela2onin]

On the other hand، after Islamic revolution, Iran turned into a regional power rising with own hand on the knee.

You act as if Syria, Hezbollah, and soon to be PMU have not all been neutralized in the last few years. We are now fighting within our own capital city if you hadn't noticed.

We developed nuclear technology without giving a shit about Russian aid or Germans' leaving the country.

Unfortunately it seems IR let the US destroy it all without a fight. By the way Bushehr is a Russian VVER reactor and there are no operational Iranian reactors.

Iran single handedly fought back against the whole NATO including Israel in the recent conflict. Iran's leader was present in a mosque shortly after 12 days war while standing like a mountain.

Iran jumped on a ceasefire as soon as it was offered. khamenei knows he is not under threat. Why would the jews kill such a pathetic spineless leader who has kept Iran suppressed and weak with his traitorous fatwas and missile range limits? He can stand tall knowing that they will never kill him as long as he continues to do the jew's bidding and keeps Iran weak. On his watch over 1000 Iranians were killed and our cities were directly attacked, he created the conditions that allowed for this.

2 kings and 3 times scaping the country. In non of Iranian dysnasty we had such a losers. Romans wet their pants when they heard names of Sassanid kings. Pahlavis opened their legs at westerner's will.

Yes, we as Iranians must expect and demand better leaders than pahlavis, khamenei, and the capitalist oligarchs of IR.

 

[muhammed45]

You act as if Syria, Hezbollah, and soon to be PMU have not all been neutralized in the last few years. We are now fighting within our own capital city if you hadn't noticed.

Syria was a different case. Instead someone gifted us Yemen.

Syria was a fight for honor. A personal matter with Wahhabi terrorists. The pussycat that claims Damascus is nothing but a pawn of Zionists and Turks. He won't stay for too long. Hezbollah is fine, PMU is integrated with Iraqi army and hence untouchable.

Unfortunately it seems IR let the US destroy it all without a fight. By the way Bushehr is a Russian VVER reactor and there are no operational Iranian reactors

Science cannot be eliminated. We can restart the program at will. Its a localized thing not an imported technology.

Bushehr is also different. Americans are trying to stop localisation process in Iran. We have to throw Russians out, it will take time anyways.

Iran jumped on a ceasefire as soon as it was offered. khamenei knows he is not under threat. Why would the jews kill such a pathetic spineless leader who has kept Iran suppressed and weak with his traitorous fatwas and missile range limits? He can stand tall knowing that they will never kill him as long as he continues to do the jew's bidding and keeps Iran weak. On his watch over 1000 Iranians were killed and our cities were directly attacked, he created the conditions that allowed for this.

Don't tell the story upside down. It was Zionists that asked for it and Iran didn't refuse. We needed to rebuild IADS' damaged parts.

You are speaking out of your rear end. No one could lead Iran safely while surrounded with enemies like the current leader.

You live outside the country and then tell us what to do and what not.

The threats that country faces need to be prioritized. And a mob like you cannot understand it. Developing nuclear weapon is not something that saves Iran from current threats.

Step by step, the leader will manage at it.

Today's wars are fought with missiles and stand off weapons. Not with knives and shields and swords. Moscow was also hit by weak Ukrainian drones and a few civilians were lost. So what? Its important to keep our civilians safe but enemy is not weak like Ukraine.

Yes, we as Iranians must expect and demand better leaders than pahlavis, khamenei, and the capitalist oligarchs of IR.

Next time Jews won't be spared

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

RP is a lightweight in politics and has had no meaningful effect on the opposition in the past four decades. We can say hes useless.

That’s why I always say the IR is here to stay for a long time unless there’s some major foreign plot. We got no proper opposition to IR.

The real patriotic opposition to the monarchist government the ones who actually had reputation and credibility were people like Bakhtiar who tried to steer things in the right direction. But they were all murdered by IR thugs.

Anyway we digress from the main topic though everything is related itss separated by time.

He's not useless, he's a traitor and assisted murder of Iranian civilians and scientists and works for mossad, including organizational operation, psyops etc. He's a disgrace.
Even the people surrounding him, most extreme Royalists like Taheri are leaving him and accusing him of chasing funds and money. He's a gambler and 10x worse than Rouhani and Pezeshkian.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Syria was a different case. Instead someone gifted us Yemen.

Syria was a fight for honor. A personal matter with Wahhabi terrorists. The pussycat that claims Damascus is nothing but a pawn of Zionists and Turks. He won't stay for too long. Hezbollah is fine, PMU is integrated with Iraqi army and hence untouchable.


Science cannot be eliminated. We can restart the program at will. Its a localized thing not an imported technology.

Bushehr is also different. Americans are trying to stop localisation process in Iran. We have to throw Russians out, it will take time anyways.


Don't tell the story upside down. It was Zionists that asked for it and Iran didn't refuse. We needed to rebuild IADS' damaged parts.

You are speaking out of your rear end. No one could lead Iran safely while surrounded with enemies like the current leader.

You live outside the country and then tell us what to do and what not.

The threats that country faces need to be prioritized. And a mob like you cannot understand it. Developing nuclear weapon is not something that saves Iran from current threats.

Step by step, the leader will manage at it.

Today's wars are fought with missiles and stand off weapons. Not with knives and shields and swords. Moscow was also hit by weak Ukrainian drones and a few civilians were lost. So what? Its important to keep our civilians safe but enemy is not weak like Ukraine.


Next time Jews won't be spared

Since 2003 Iran gained 2 friends: Yemen and Iraq. However we should consolidate our influence and never allow to lose friends again (like in Syria). Ansarallah should liberate rest of Yemen, Hezbollah is threatened now. We've to act and prevent zionists toppling our friends. It all started with martyrdom of Soleimani. Toppling of Assad, bringing Trump to power, attacking Iran, all were part of their long term strategy to destroy Iran.

IRI was not prepared. I didnt see heads roll, spies and incompetent figures remain at the same position, ready to be activated again. How many more should be martyred? who is responsible for this mess? why no one resigns?