Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

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[Jalz]

Won't the snapback be ineffective since China/Russia can block the re-imposition of UN sanctions?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Won't the snapback be ineffective since China/Russia can block the re-imposition of UN sanctions?

Why would they?

 

[Jalz]

Why would they?

China is already trying to and Russia sees Iran as a friend

 

[ShapurII]

Won't the snapback be ineffective since China/Russia can block the re-imposition of UN sanctions?

They can't. That's the whole purpose of putting the snapback mechanism in the JCPOA.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Won't the snapback be ineffective since China/Russia can block the re-imposition of UN sanctions?

no. that's not how snapback works.

 

[Jalz]

They can't. That's the whole purpose of putting the snapback mechanism in the JCPOA.

Well its not like they were going to send us any weapons anyways. The worst part of the snapbacks is cutting us off from the international banking system but we already are. Even if the snapback is put in place I doubt China would care enough to follow it. International law is what you make of it and China is strong enough that it can tell the UN/West to stay away

 

[ShapurII]

Well its not like they were going to send us any weapons anyways. The worst part of the snapbacks is cutting us off from the international banking system but we already are.

The worst part is that we'll be just one step before invoking Article 42 on us.

Article 42 of the Chapter VII of the UN Charter:
“Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.”

Article 41 refers to UNSC sanctions against a country that is a threat to global security. So, the snapback mechanism will put Iran back under Article 42. Next time they pass a UNSC resolution on us, it could very well be Article 42 this time.

 

[Jalz]

The worst part is that we'll be just one step before invoking Article 42 on us.

Article 42 of the Chapter VII of the UN Charter:
“Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.”

Article 41 refers to UNSC sanctions against a country that is a threat to global security. So, the snapback mechanism will put Iran back under Article 42. Next time they pass a UNSC resolution on us, it could very well be Article 42 this time.

China and Russia would block article 42. China needs a secure oil partner in case the taiwan situation escalates and the persian gulf arab states comply with US sanctions. Plus russia doesn't want a pro-american regime blocking a secure trade route to India and south asia.

 

[Persian Gulf]

China and Russia would block article 42. China needs a secure oil partner in case the taiwan situation escalates and the persian gulf arab states comply with US sanctions. Plus russia doesn't want a pro-american regime blocking a secure trade route to India and south asia.

China and Russia both supported the UNSC resolutions and sanctions against Iran that put Iran in this situation to begin with

 

[Sarhang]

For the Russophiles here


The snapback mechanism, or the automatic reimposition of UN Security Council sanctions on Iran, has been a topic of debate, uncertainty, and at times, criticism of the JCPOA negotiating team for nearly a decade in Iran’s political and legal circles.

This was a method for the swift return of Security Council sanctions, designed and proposed by Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, and included in Resolution 2231.

In the Security Council’s vote on the resolution, veto power was removed following a proposal by Russia, meaning no country could block the draft resolution or prevent the return of sanctions on Iran using a veto.

https://iranwire.com/en/features/136431-how-the-snapback-mechanism-brings-back-sanctions-on-iran/

 

[Persian Gulf]

?

does he know that France and the UK are UNSC permanent members?

we should assume from this weird statement that Iran no longer plans to leave the NPT. this means that Europe has nothing to fear and should invoke snap back whenever they want since Iran has been castrated.

 

[hyperman]

Iran allowing the IAEA back in to monitor sites is a weak move, I thought they learned from the previous situation.

 

[Sarhang]

?

does he know that France and the UK are UNSC permanent members?

we should assume from this weird statement that Iran no longer plans to leave the NPT. this means that Europe has nothing to fear and should invoke snap back whenever they want since Iran has been castrated.

این یارو دیپلمات نیست. اصلاً دیپلماسی بلد نیست نمی‌دونه چیه خوردنیه یا پوشیدنیه. یک مامور اطلاعاتی و بازجوی سابق را کردن دیپلمات و نشوندن جلوی مقامات اروپایی

 

[Shafagh]

Iran allowing the IAEA back in to monitor sites is a weak move, I thought they learned from the previous situation.

They are not even granting them sufficient access, means there is absolutely no point in Iran allowing the IAEA back into the country at all. There is simply no merit to partial access. My only guess is they will eventually use the 50 day window to address issues that prompted Snap back mechanism.

This clown show must be a Mossad operation. There is no way a government is this retarded.