Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

I already said this months ago and I also said that the supposed "SNAPBACK" legally (under international law) cannot be triggered by those who violate it.

then you are just as foolish as Zarif and Araghchi and those who prefer to put their head in the sand and think just because the specific words are not mentioned that such a procedure with the same effect does not exist

 

[Persian Gulf]

Negotiations are useless with these people. Diplomacy is a deceiving facade. Their objective is not just limited to the destruction of the Iranian nuclear program. They actually aim to destroy the Iranian statehood. Let's hope that the Iranian leadership takes the right steps to prevent this from happening.

pretty ironic that the guy who calls Lebanese journalists animals openly says Israel will "go where they want, when they want, and do what they want" acting with total impunity from any laws

 

[Persian Gulf]

Is Qaher-313 truly a stealth drone? Has there ever been reports of this being in combat?

it's just a prototype which is not in active development

 

[BigMela2onin]

Did Iran even acquire anything after the arms embargo was lifted? I have yet to see a single SU 35, and no credible news of any other acquisitions.

Yeah some Ak-103s lol

 

[TallGuy]

It appears even the silos themselves were hit. I saw sat images on X that the silo doors had been hit with pinpoint precision.

That explains why the mountain airbases could not fire from inside them, even the ones that were pre fueled (or solid) and ready and on standby at all times. It explains why the initial response took so long.

Are you talking about the iranian missile shower system? i also wondered? why they have not been used. ripple fire mechanism that firing Emads (1700km) should have been used. this should have been used as it was a major investment from Iran.

i am sure that these were built deep inside iran. you have raised an important point.

 

[vizier]

It appears even the silos themselves were hit. I saw sat images on X that the silo doors had been hit with pinpoint precision.

That explains why the mountain airbases could not fire from inside them, even the ones that were pre fueled (or solid) and ready and on standby at all times. It explains why the initial response took so long.

Launch silos were possibly targeted by air launched ballistic/cruise missiles and later on aircraft launched glide bombs. They will be targeted again next time. It is good to have silos but most likely they will be destroyed again so alternatives need to be developed. One possible solution is excavation vehicles inside mountain bases and some unfinished escape tunnels-routes which can be rapidly opened by excavation vehicles in times of need to carry out the missiles with mobile launchers and rapidly launch them to targets.

 

[Liquidator]

Negotiations are useless with these people. Diplomacy is a deceiving facade. Their objective is not just limited to the destruction of the Iranian nuclear program. They actually aim to destroy the Iranian statehood. Let's hope that the Iranian leadership takes the right steps to prevent this from happening.

I don't normally share stuff like this, but this is in fact highly pertinent to topic at hand.

All should pay heed to this warning

 

[BigMela2onin]

 

[BonPlan]

We need a ground invasion into Israel to reduce its territory. Trying to absorb US/Israeli strikes and at best trade some blows is futile.

All this US-Israeli bravado ends when Middle Easterner soldiers invade Israel and reduce its territory. Best case scenario whole the entire Jewish people there hostage until US and Israel withdrew from Middle East.

You have to scare them. Right now they aren't afraid of you.

You forget they have nuc.
You can be sure, at another level than with the NATO, that a strong attack against the israeli territories will imply the use of nuc. Not all the 90 or 100 in stockpile, but some.

Jude people will never suffer another Shoah. Never.

And arabs neighbors already tried to defeat israel, together. They always failed. The last operations against Iran and Hezbollah shown they mastered the art of war.

(I just indicate I'm not jude. Just in case of).

 

[BonPlan]

can be useful to analyse their claims as a benchmark since Iran doesn't give any information

for example, they claim they destroyed up to 1,000 MRBMs in Iran. they also claim they launched around 1,200 airstrikes. so almost every airstrike destroyed 1 missile? none of the missile bases were actually penetrated and destroyed, so we can exclude the possibility that they destroyed hundreds of missiles at once.

1 airstrike may have destroyed several missiles at once, as some may have been unsuccessfull.
The figure is not incredible, as there were israeli special forces on the field to help to find the targets and made battle assessment.

 

[ShapurII]

@Persian Gulf He clearly claims that snapback mechanism does not exist. @0:46

 

[Persian Gulf]

1 airstrike may have destroyed several missiles at once, as some may have been unsuccessfull.
The figure is not incredible, as there were israeli special forces on the field to help to find the targets and made battle assessment.

zero evidence the missile bases were penetrated

so only way this happens is if the missiles were hit whilst being prepared for launch next to each other

all footage released by Israel showed single missile launchers being hit and they even edited these videos to release them twice to give the impression of hitting more launchers

so this theory is not feasible

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Persian Gulf He clearly claims that snapback mechanism does not exist. @0:46

he's playing with words. he calls it dispute resolution mechanism, the West calls it snapback. means the same thing in the end: E3 can cause all UNSC resolutions to be re-instated against Iran within 30 days.

 

[Persian Gulf]

we didn't choose, so Israel and USA chose for us

 

[Persian Gulf]

hardline MP demands that Iran expels European ambassadors

not a very popular idea