Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

Let's see if they will carry out their threats

 

[BigMela2onin]

By being weak and timid during the war, the arabs no longer fear attack by Iran. Bombing a few oil reservoirs would have avoided this happening.

 

[ToddE]

Not really. Iran during Shah was a US ally or a vassal state, call it as you wish. In terms of the Cold war it was a win situation for Moscow. But in terms of ideology it wasnt. A theocratic state on the borders of the USSR wasnt exactly a dream for the Soviets, but we can say the same for a royal ruling state. So it was a win as long as US lost an ally, that being said, everything else was pretty much the same for us.

But tbh with the start of the 80s our problems were already way too big and deep, the regime in Iran didnt really matter in that time.

You are seeing things from Russian national perspective and you do not know our mutual history perhaps. I am not against Russia or its people. Russia does what is best for Russia. Iran should do same but IRI System is born to serve others not Iran or Iranians and Russia is one of the biggest beneficiary of these self-immolation policies of IRI.

Here is a list of Iranian grievance against Russia.

1. Russian attacked and forced Qajar Iran to cede vast lands to Tsarist Russia, including Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Dagestan. None of these are Russian lands, no cultural, religious, genetic similarity. These are still remembered as a symbol of Russian imperial aggression. IRI did not ask for it back when USSR was dissolved.
2. In 1941, the Soviet Union invaded Iran alongside Britain. After WWII, Moscow refused to leave northern Iran, instead supporting separatist puppet states the Azerbaijan People’s Government and the Mahabad Kurdish Republic (1945–46). Iran’s sovereignty was restored only under intense U.S. and UN pressure and Shahi Irans actions.
3. The USSR built up the Communists inside Iran as its instrument in Iran, undermining Iranian independence and spreading Soviet ideology inside the country.
4. The USSR was Saddam’s main weapons supplier/trainer, giving Iraq MiG-21/23/25/29, Su-22/24/25, AD weapons, Scud SRBMS, and MBTs. You name it, Russia gave Baathist Arabs whatever will eventually kill thousands of Iranians. Soviet weapons caused mass Iranian casualties while Moscow ignored Tehran’s appeals for neutrality.
5. After the USSR’s collapse, Iran purchased MiG-29, MIG-31 and Su-24s, but deliveries were cut in the middle despite Cash being paid, spare parts scarce, and deals constantly delayed. Russia refused to sell MiG-31s, despite Iranian interest, and pocketed Iranian funds without delivering on promises. Rafsanjani's government was fooled by Yeltsin.
6. In 2007, Iran paid for the S-300 air defense system, but Russia suspended the deal in 2010 under U.S.-Israeli pressure. Iran only received few years later (2016). Its a defensive weapon that even UN would not object to but Russia itself imposed the ban.
7. Russia has voted for or tolerated UN sanctions against Iran (e.g. in 2010). Moscow has repeatedly used Iran as a bargaining chip with Washington and Europe.
8. Iran supplied Russia with Shahed drones along with its TOT during the Ukraine war. Iran received little in return. Once again, Moscow took Iranian innovation but offered minimal benefit. There is no SU-35S or SU-30SM inside Iran.
9. Russia has blocked Iranian access to pipeline projects and undercut Iran’s position in global oil and gas markets.
10. Historically, the USSR armed Iraq and Egypt against Iran. Its now arming Iran’s rivals once again in form of Turkey (A NATO member, PGCC sheikhdoms, Azerbaijan.
11. For decades, Iran and the USSR had a 50-50 legal agreement over the Caspian Sea. After the USSR collapsed, Russia forced Iran into accepting only a 13–14% share — stripping Tehran of its rightful waters and resources.
12. The 1921 Russo-Persian Treaty promised respect for Iranian sovereignty. Yet the USSR repeatedly violated it — occupying Iran in 1941 and backing separatist movements in 1945–46.
13. Russia delayed the Bushehr nuclear power plant for decades, overcharging Iran billions while stalling under Western pressure. A project begun in the 1970s was only completed in 2011, making Iran hostage to Russian engineers and spare parts.

Like I said I have nothing against Russia, I am against my own IRI which is allowing Iran to be looted, exploited by its historical enemies.

 

[ToddE]

Let's see if they will carry out their threats

These illiterate "Generals" think NPT is still a bargaining chip. His job is to defend Iran but he is talking about politics while military is becoming more and more obsolete.

 

[Shafagh]

These illiterate "Generals" think NPT is still a bargaining chip. His job is to defend Iran but he is talking about politics while military is becoming more and more obsolete.

Exactly. You can't just leave NPT and think it is a bargaining chip.

If you leave, have a nuclear weapon ready to build in tandem, and build it.

What are they thinking?

 

[Hack-Hook]

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this woman can attend but our heart surgeon cannot ? and he can't take the photo and then leave? or simply request not to drink alcohol ? this excuse doesn't add up.

That was photo before a dinner party
Our heart surgeon participate in the photo shoot before the summit

 

[Hack-Hook]

Because an F-35 with its RCS you aren’t reliably picking it up till maybe 50KM away assuming no jamming or ECW/EW by the enemy. And Azerbaijan with it’s weak IADS doesn’t have the capability to even know if F-35 came into its airspace.

So you could have F-35 penetrate thru Iraq terrain hugging thru northern iran into Armenia and Azeribajian and release their payloads over the Caspian towards Tehran and its surrounding then leave.
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Even Patarames claims that Israel was using its stealth drone bomber over Caspian to launch 200KM ranged cruise missiles.

Even male drones ?

 

[Hack-Hook]

Why do you assume the only way that chopper was brought down by bomb or projectile? Do you think if Mossad was going to do such an operation on a world leader they would pick such an obvious tactic? And the ones who did investigation were who? IRGC and its affiliates? Was black box recording ever released?

The facts are 3 helicopters went into the same fog at the same time. And all the other pilots managed to navigate it just fine except the presidents.

Do you also believe that Rafsjani died from a heart attack in his pool?

Do you also believe the port explosion (similar to Beruit) that took place weeks before the war was also human error?

As I said first all helicopters were not in one line and summit was a slope if the helicopter was 40-50 m to left it would passed the mountain also the helicopter Mr. Raesi was inside had weakest engi e and lowest rate of ascend between the three helicopter

 

[Hack-Hook]

Do you also believe the port explosion (similar to Beruit) that took place weeks before the war was also human error?

Video from the incident post to human error.
Go and watch them

 

[BigMela2onin]

US decision making went from we should try to avoid war to let's bomb anytime because there are no consequences.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Hey Hack-Hook, when i posted that comment, I also gave a link to the latest IRNA website and till then there was nothing of Pezeshkian otherwise it would have been posted in the official media !!!

Well we'll i posted it there was another meeting that forget to write and that was with Guteresh .
Iran media as always are lethargic and late to report news

 

[Hack-Hook]

Some IRGC guy who initially said it was a good deal came out and said he thought that based on zarif's description of it lol. Very few majlisis read it and understood what it actually said. Only in Iran would a Parliament pass something they have no understanding of...

Then they are traitor and negligible to they duties.
I could he'd may hand on a copy of jcpoa why those lazy pm could not ?
Probably they were instead were busy take selfie with muggerini (oh how they write her name)

 

[Shafagh]

Then they are traitor and negligible to they duties.
I could he'd may hand on a copy of jcpoa why those lazy pm could not ?
Probably they were instead were busy take selfie with muggerini (oh how they write her name)

Why is an IRGC guy commenting on such affairs anyway?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Why is an IRGC guy commenting on such affairs anyway?

For the same reason they are engaged in economic activities, they have superseded their function as a military force.

 

[muhammed45]

For the same reason they are engaged in economic activities, they have superseded their function as a military force.

Iranian history esp after revolution, is full of nagging dckheads such as you.

Guess what, this time, dogs bark and the caravan is moving on and on non stop.