Iran Plans to Buy Chinese J-10C Instead of Russian Su-35

[ahtan_china]

This blogger referred to Pakistan's J-10 project and believed that the J-10 transaction between China and Iran was fraught with difficulties. He expressed pessimism about this project.

 

[Lulldapull]

we sold Saudis DF-3 BMs and nukes.. China would sell anything if the money is right

Thank you for confirming that. That DF-3 is 40 years old now.......You set up a new cheap/ third class BM factory up in Sawdi Judea a few years ago on US and Israeli orders.

Congratulations.

 

[Lulldapull]

this is legit twisted

No its not.......you see people here openly support AL-Qaeda and ISIS and Talibunnies.

That is seriously twisted no? fully aware that these are western/ Zionist proxies.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Thank you for confirming that. That DF-3 is 40 years old now.......You set up a new cheap/ third class BM factory up in Sawdi Judea a few years ago on US and Israeli orders.

Congratulations.

try not to overthink yourself... not everything under the sun is magically related to US-Israel

 

[r3alist]

No its not.......you see people here openly support AL-Qaeda and ISIS and Talibunnies.

That is seriously twisted no? fully aware that these are western/ Zionist proxies.

I don't know what you mean who you refer to

that perception doesn't explain what you actually chose to post

Who do you think this pattern of toxic relativising is kidding?

 

[ety]

we sold Saudis DF-3 BMs and nukes.. China would sell anything if the money is right

Not nukes. Saudis BM were acquired in a special circumstance at a peculiar time.

 

[Lulldapull]

I don't know what you mean who you refer to

that perception doesn't explain what you actually chose to post

Who do you think this pattern of toxic relativising is kidding?

What relativising?.......here we got champions of muslim kalifate no? They talk a lot......but they don't talk about this:

Israel killed 580 Palestinians waiting for aid in Gaza

Palestinian authorities in Gaza have released alarming figures on the starving civilians killed by Israeli live fire while waiting in line for humanitarian aid.

www.presstv.ir

They talk about Assad and Qazzafi and Imran and Saddam no? And why they must go no?

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Not nukes. Saudis BM were acquired in a special circumstance at a peculiar time.

China wasn't a signed member of NPT back then. as long as ambiguity serves the purpose, people can claim whatever.

 

[Nuffle]

Iran is too deep for F-35 to roam around even if they have air superiority over Iran.

Iran would need two to three lines of defence (military/air force bases). Near border with Afghanistan, in the middle, and near the coast. Iran can, on normal occasions, station it's majority fighting force in country middle or afghan side bases.

And it's not like only J-10cs will be game over for Israel. Iran will have to build a network .

Ground based long range radars + J-10Cs + KJ-500 AWACS + Air refuelers + Airdefence systems (SAMs). F-35 won't be able to penetrate that.

It will still be possible considering the package strike, but the issue is the cost to penetrate, the enemy side will have the cost of calculating how many losses they will have to be able to penetrate and the cost may not be worth it.

 

[MH.Yang]

we sold Saudis DF-3 BMs and nukes.. China would sell anything if the money is right

Thank you for confirming that. That DF-3 is 40 years old now.......You set up a new cheap/ third class BM factory up in Sawdi Judea a few years ago on US and Israeli orders.

Congratulations.

China sold 35 DF-3 ballistic missiles to Saudi Arabia in 1987.

But there's a catch: in 1987 China's foreign exchange reserves were only $2.9 billion, and the Saudis bought 35 DF-3s for $3.5 billion. i.e. you'd have to subvert China's trade principles with money above China's foreign exchange reserves. Today China's foreign exchange reserves are $3.3 trillion. If you can come up with that price then you can just pick any weapon you want, including J-20,J-36,J-50,KJ-3000 and even Xi Jinping's underwear.

Secondly, the 35 ballistic missiles purchased by the Saudis are controlled by the Chinese military through Golden Wheel, and China has veto power over participation in the war.

The Saudis were able to accept such harsh conditions in order to obtain the DF-3, was the Iranian government willing to do the same?

 

[r3alist]

What relativising?.......here we got champions of muslim kalifate no? They talk a lot......but they don't talk about this:

Israel killed 580 Palestinians waiting for aid in Gaza

Palestinian authorities in Gaza have released alarming figures on the starving civilians killed by Israeli live fire while waiting in line for humanitarian aid.

www.presstv.ir

They talk about Assad and Qazzafi and Imran and Saddam no? And why they must go no?

Relativising is exactly what you just did here

The thread here is about the Iranian air force, how did we get on this topic where it seems like you are doing some twisted gaslighting using ....using...using.....a tragedy everyone has watched....painfully


I have observed enough reactions on Gaza to know who uses the catastrophe how, shameful stuff bro, people who felt the pain don't start USING it for an alternative agenda, Iran also did not do diddly but you want to point the finger at x.

 

[MH.Yang]

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy king can to anything he want.
Several years ago come out that Iran allowed russian bomber refuel in hamadan o. Their way to Syria, parliament nearly gave no confidence vote to the president.

These radars include but are not limited to meter wave radar, UHF band radar, S band radar, L band radar, passive radar, passive radar, acoustic source radar and so on. China is the use of acoustic facilities and high-frequency satellite early warning, using the network link various radars plus AI big data analysis to lock, to anti-stealth. This facility is huge and expensive and involves a lot of high-end scientific and technological secrets. The Chinese government is unlikely to sell this complete anti-stealth system to any country.
It is also the only system in the world that can effectively counter stealth. Without an anti-cloaking system, the most Iran can do is to inflict equal damage with stealth aircraft, without the possibility of stopping the enemy's stealth aircraft.

 

[muhammed45]

P

Not nukes. Saudis BM were acquired in a special circumstance at a peculiar time.

I am curious about that friend. Actually read somewhere, those BMs were delivered to KSA after US, in fact CIA, approval. Was that wrong?

 

[RealNapster]

It will still be possible considering the package strike, but the issue is the cost to penetrate, the enemy side will have the cost of calculating how many losses they will have to be able to penetrate and the cost may not be worth it.

No country is impenetrable. Hence, that should not be the goal either.

 

[ety]

P

I am curious about that friend. Actually read somewhere, those BMs were delivered to KSA after US, in fact CIA, approval. Was that wrong?

I don't know. At least US didn't stop KSA getting MBs from China since US didn't want to provide them to KSA. I don't think China obeys CIA or US anytime as some say that China needs US permission to do business with other countries, if that's the case, more than 140 countries in the world largest trade partner wouldn't be China, but most likely US.