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No matter how you slice it, Iran's air defense performance was far worse than Syria's or Yemen's.
In fact, even Israel must have been surprised by Iran's lack of resistance.
This is because Syria's air defenses had been significantly upgraded in the years before the Assad regime collapsed, making jet incursions impossible and achieving a high interception rate for cruise missiles.
Israel had resorted to heavy use of ALBM and glide bombs to penetrate that AD.
Iran, over 1000km from Israel, should have been a far more difficult target, yet it proved an extremely easy one.
This was due to the Iranian government's persistent avoidance of conflict, resulting in a severe lack of combat experience,
and the fatal infiltration of spies within the upper echelons.
The IRGC learned the hard way that war is not decided solely by superior equipment. Iran is now paying for Khamenei's mistake of agreeing to an early ceasefire after just 12 days.
Following the senseless loss of 3,000 lives to US backed terrorism, it is regrettable that if US bombing escalates in earnest, tens of thousands of civilian lives could easily be lost.
What Iran needs is a government with unwavering resolve, the elimination of spies, and real combat experience. Without these, the AD will not function.
We saw the real capabilities of Iran's IADS back in late October 2025 when in response to the True Promise 2 missile strikes Israel launched what they said was an air raid consisting of up to 140 aircraft against Iran coming from Syria and Iraq. The only battle damage was for less than 20 targets that where clearly hit due to ALBM due to the light warheads used. It was clear proof that the IAF did not dare cross into Iranian airspace and only the aircrafts loaded with ALBM where able to fire upon their targets deep over Iraqi airspace. The Israelis saw how effective Iranian IADS systems where and changed their tactics. In the early hours of 13 June 2025 Israel utilised Commando/Saboteurs teams to attack Iranian IADS on the ground with Spike atgms and small suicide drones built "underground" in Iran to open up Iranian airspace for the IAF. Even so, There is no evidence that the IAF flew more than a few strike missions deep into Iran. IAF preferred to launch ALBM and CMs either from Iraqi airspace or from the Caspian sea via Azerbaijan airspace to kit targets in Tehran and the Semnan missile complex.
 
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I think the US attack plan is to completely destroy Iranian radars and air defenses and sink majority of its naval assets. Then leave it to Israel to do what it wants.
 
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I think the US attack plan is to completely destroy Iranian radars and air defenses and sink majority of its naval assets. Then leave it to Israel to do what it wants.
Just like the 12 day war . 🙄
 
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this was one month before the 12 day war

did not age well


this analysis turned out to be correct. based on massive OPSEC failures by Iran which leaked radar locations and range.
 

this analysis turned out to be correct. based on massive OPSEC failures by Iran which leaked radar locations and range.

The S-300 order was too small for a country the size of Iran. It was ok for a country the size of Yemen or Iraq. I said we needed more foreign systems as a stop gap and was downvoted on this forum.

In 2022 when Iran sold Shahed drones to Russia instead of demanding gold or whatever the hell this incompetent leadership asked for —it should have asked for a large S-400 (or even s-500 order).

In fact, one could argue that Russia should have also supplied a separate S-400 order in exchange for Iran pulling its lawsuit over the S-300 in international court of arbitration. Obviously Iran would pay for it, the order should have been double the size of the S-400 for Turkey.

The signs were all there that Iran’s domestic manufacturing couldn’t possibly build enough of these new air defenses systems fast enough. Look, Bavar isn’t even mass produced and it’s been 15 years since the R&D program was started.

It really points to corruption within IRGC why the nations air defenses were so vulnerable after so many years.

I remember during the Obama administration I was watching a 4 star general give testimony to Congress on any possible U.S. intervention in the Syrian war and the general said that Syria’s air defenses are some of the densest in the region far exceeding Iran’s or Iraq’s in Persian Gulf war 1.

That was a clue even as far back as 2012, that Iran’s air defenses were still just a void.

So someone should answer why this country left so unprotected, was it corruption where funds allocated to projects just never got used as intended (like you found out in Russia at start of Ukraine war) or is it due to Iran being a broke boy?

If it’s the latter, one could argue that the Syrian war kept iran for building up its armed forces as it was thought Iran was spending $1-2B a year for the war + credit lines to Syrian government. Some estimates go as high as $10B/year in some of the years.
 
The S-300 order was too small for a country the size of Iran. It was ok for a country the size of Yemen or Iraq. I said we needed more foreign systems as a stop gap and was downvoted on this forum.
one issue was internal sabotage and lack of competent counterintelligence to prevent spies taking out key radars

another was repeated OPSEC failures revealing location of key radars etc

another was lack of investment in sufficient AD systems (domestic or foreign) to cover Iran's large territory with sufficient redundancy

the reality is that just like the bulk of our missile forces are based on old generation liquid fuel MRBMs, the bulk of our air defences is based on Hawk and S-200 systems, and large parts of the east of the country have very limited air defence with major gaps ...
 
one issue was internal sabotage and lack of competent counterintelligence to prevent spies taking out key radars

I mean in case of Isfahan airbase TP-1 attack by Israel, the S-300 radar was in LOS via some fields nearby or even major highway. So stationing air defenses in areas where a simple crew can fire a few drones at it, is gross incompetence. Even Israel struggled against nearby HZ crews on the border hitting sites. Distance reduces reaction time and counter response,

The fact there was no anti drone systems deployed or EW systems to stop drones was again gross incompetence. Iran never even developed a cheap alternative to protect its radar sites or missile sites which is an C-RAM like system. After all IRGC Quds force should have well aware how hard it was hitting US bases with this defending them. Something well within Iran’s capabilities to build (basically a glorified CWIS with counter battery radar).

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another was repeated OPSEC failures revealing location of key radars etc

I don’t put too much credence in this. Certainly not helpful, but You can detect radar radiation from space. Every war game Iran held, its radars would light up when doing air defense exercises.

It’s one reason why Iran was able to avoid Patriot systems during the armaco attack, radar radiation allows an enemy even like Iran to map out direction and range.

Unless you are constantly moving them around and changing configurations, you’re usually better of just building a denser ring. Even if enemy knows where your ring is and what compromises it, if it sufficiently dense enough it will not fail easily and repel the enemy properly.

A ring that is led by ONE Najam-804 is hilariously embarrassing. Especially given this ring is for natanz —one of the most important sites in all of Iran. And smacking an S-300 near by does nothing if that s-300 isn’t protected itself. Ukraine and Russia both have hit plenty of S-300’s that weren’t properly guarded with redundancy systems.

The fact is Iran doesn’t know how to build air defenses. It hasn’t learned since the IR of Iran was founded. It relied on F-14’s for so long to guard its skies.

another was lack of investment in sufficient AD systems (domestic or foreign) to cover Iran's large territory with sufficient redundancy

Which is curious, because Iran had the money. But instead it blew billions on arms shipments to HZ, Houthi’s, Syria, etc.

And in the end what did those systems bring it? Only the Houthi’s ever fired true inventory amounts. HZ only fired Grad rockets from Cold War and some ATGMs.

the reality is that just like the bulk of our missile forces are based on old generation liquid fuel MRBMs, the bulk of our air defences is based on Hawk and S-200 systems, and large parts of the east of the country have very limited air defence with major gaps ...

The reality is there was systematic corruption in the armed forces. This isn’t a country that spends $25b a year. Most of it is being laundered to the pockets of generals , companies, and politicians.

In America or China that is fine when they have budgets of 1T and 200B respectively. But in countries like Russia (60B) or Iran (20-30B) you get exposed.
 

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