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I think the JF17 Block 3 with IFR would be great cheap and high quality for Iran
I'd love to see JF17s in Iranian livery and preferably getting some kills against the Zionist fags, but can we even sell them? I think not. We couldn't even operationalize the Iran Pak gas pipeline which would have done wonders for us.
 
I think the JF17 Block 3 with IFR would be great cheap and high quality for Iran
It would through numbers and possible loyal wing attachments but frankly today's Pakistan would not dare to sell anything which would elevate Iran defence capabilities, even China does not dare to sell Iran anything substantial.
Their only foreign options is Russia and even that is forced upon russians, not out of their goodwill.
 
This is if Pakistan actually wants to sell to Iran. But I agree, the JF-17 is a wonderful plane and suited to Iran's purposes.

I agree it may not be possible

but JF17 Block 3 with PL-15E would be a great equaliser against the Israeli F16, F15 and F35s
 
Thank you @Flotilla. I was feeling all alone debunking @Emirzad theory on "everyone is dumb, stupid and illiterate".
Something that many people of this forum like about Iran (including me) it is your resilience. The Regime has survived all US presidents from Carter to nowadays. That cannot be just the luck of the dumb...
Anyway I understand frustration and determinism of iranian people. The Economy and domestic politics can be dissapointing. But we are in the Air Force tread, so let´s shoot the ball and continue playing...
I think the JF17 Block 3 with IFR would be great cheap and high quality for Iran
As multirole light fighter it is fantastic and easy to mantain and without "black switch" but the priority should be a long range interceptor with long range missiles and that only can be either Su35 or J11/16 with PL15...
 
It would through numbers and possible loyal wing attachments but frankly today's Pakistan would not dare to sell anything which would elevate Iran defence capabilities, even China does not dare to sell Iran anything substantial.
Their only foreign options is Russia and even that is forced upon russians, not out of their goodwill.
It is not pakistan and china Don't dare sell air fighter to iran
it is not worthy to sell

Huawei will tell you why
huawei sell to cuba, nk. it is ok, no information got by USA.
but in iran it is another story,inside iran, there are so many traitor who will sell you out at any time
 
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Russia doesn't love Iran, as Irán doesn't love Russia. They're brothers of misery. Irán is the soft belly of Russia, a Highway to reach south asia without having to cross NATO or Japan/South Korea (US partners). Ukraine deal won't change that much. Because the Affinity of Putin/Trump has a expiry date.
Russia has been Iran's enemy through most of its history. This aligning of interests against the west is temporary and already appears to be almost over. Despite this, once this Su-35 deal falls through as most Russia deals prior did, Iran will continue begging them for 4th gen fighters, while other countries are exporting 5th gens and developing 6th gens, instead of looking for alternate sources or putting serious effort into a domestic fighter project.
Iran Government is not dumb. The Regime has survived a total war against Irak, and a draconian isolation that no other country in the area would do. And if you don't believe that fact you should admit that there are much more dumb governments in the área than Iran.
Iran-Iraq was almost half a century ago. Many competent commanders and officials have died or been killed since then. The fact is the leadership today is ineffective and had been paralyzed by an increasingly aggressive and savage west who see that they Iran lacks any will to fight back. Hezbollah has been completely neutralized as they have no response to mass targeting of civilians by "Israel." Iran's leadership clearly has no plan other than to sit and let sanctions take their toll while they wait for something to change. They are lucky the only thing more incompetent that themselves is the organized Iranian opposition. Truly a sad state of affairs when the best option you have is to keep the incompetent leadership you have now in place.
And the IRIAF certainly has no plans other than to keep begging Russia for jets and let it's current air frames slowly crash one by one.
 
even China does not dare to sell Iran anything substantial.
huawei sell to cuba, nk. it is ok, no information got by USA.
but in iran it is another story,inside iran, there are so many traitor who will sell you out at any time
Your views are influenced by too much Western English media.

According to the data:
Data published by China: China-Iran bilateral trade in goods is about 15 billion dollars/year. (Fluctuates slightly from year to year)
Data published by Russia: Iran-Russia bilateral trade in goods is about $4 billion/year.

Chinese exports to Iran:
Electromechanical products: accounting for nearly 40% of total exports, including mechanical appliances, electrical equipment, vehicles and spare parts.
Other major commodities: optical instruments, organic chemicals, iron and steel products, plastic products and etc.

Iranian exports to China:
Highly concentrated: plastics and their products (first place), fossil fuels and crude oil, organic chemicals, iron and steel, mineral ores, and etc.

Special Notes:
Iranian crude oil exports to China are not fully accounted for in China's official statistics.
1. Iranian oil imported by Chinese refineries through unofficial channels is not reflected in customs data, and actual imports are high.
2, A large amount of Iranian oil enters China through third-party re-export trade. These data are reflected in China's trade data with third parties.

The unilateral sanctions imposed by the United States on Iran have indeed had some impact on China-Iran bilateral trade. But it is mainly reflected in trade settlements, and it has less impact on actual China-Iran bilateral trade.

As for the military trade between China-Iran, the influence of the United States is completely negligible. It only depends on the willingness of the Chinese-Iranian parties to cooperate and international conventions (including, of course, the resolutions adopted by the UN Security Council). As long as Iran dares to place an order, China dares to sell it to Iran.

Huawei Incident. The real core reason is that Huawei's development is a serious threat to the leadership of American companies in the field of communications technology. The U.S. government used the Iranian issue as a pretext to intervene using illegal political means. The incident itself is not connected with China-Iran trade. Even if China-Iran bilateral trade were completely suspended, and even if Huawei were to completely terminate its operations in Iran, the U.S. government would inevitably take the same measures against Huawei.
 
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Your views are influenced by too much Western English media.

According to the data:
Data published by China: China-Iran bilateral trade in goods is about 15 billion dollars/year. (Fluctuates slightly from year to year)
Data published by Russia: Iran-Russia bilateral trade in goods is about $4 billion/year.

Chinese exports to Iran:
Electromechanical products: accounting for nearly 40% of total exports, including mechanical appliances, electrical equipment, vehicles and spare parts.
Other major commodities: optical instruments, organic chemicals, iron and steel products, plastic products and etc.

Iranian exports to China:
Highly concentrated: plastics and their products (first place), fossil fuels and crude oil, organic chemicals, iron and steel, mineral ores, and etc.

Special Notes:
Iranian crude oil exports to China are not fully accounted for in China's official statistics.
1. Iranian oil imported by Chinese refineries through unofficial channels is not reflected in customs data, and actual imports are high.
2, A large amount of Iranian oil enters China through third-party re-export trade. These data are reflected in China's trade data with third parties.

The unilateral sanctions imposed by the United States on Iran have indeed had some impact on China-Iran bilateral trade. But it is mainly reflected in trade settlements, and it has less impact on actual China-Iran bilateral trade.

As for the military trade between China-Iran, the influence of the United States is completely negligible. It only depends on the willingness of the Chinese-Iranian parties to cooperate and international conventions (including, of course, the resolutions adopted by the UN Security Council). As long as Iran dares to place an order, China dares to sell it to Iran.

Huawei Incident. The real core reason is that Huawei's development is a serious threat to the leadership of American companies in the field of communications technology. The U.S. government used the Iranian issue as a pretext to intervene using illegal political means. The incident itself is not connected with China-Iran trade. Even if China-Iran bilateral trade were completely suspended, and even if Huawei were to completely terminate its operations in Iran, the U.S. government would inevitably take the same measures against Huawei.
Thank you for being on the money with your post. Brilliantly explained!
 
Your views are influenced by too much Western English media.

According to the data:
Data published by China: China-Iran bilateral trade in goods is about 15 billion dollars/year. (Fluctuates slightly from year to year)
Data published by Russia: Iran-Russia bilateral trade in goods is about $4 billion/year.

Chinese exports to Iran:
Electromechanical products: accounting for nearly 40% of total exports, including mechanical appliances, electrical equipment, vehicles and spare parts.
Other major commodities: optical instruments, organic chemicals, iron and steel products, plastic products and etc.

Iranian exports to China:
Highly concentrated: plastics and their products (first place), fossil fuels and crude oil, organic chemicals, iron and steel, mineral ores, and etc.

Special Notes:
Iranian crude oil exports to China are not fully accounted for in China's official statistics.
1. Iranian oil imported by Chinese refineries through unofficial channels is not reflected in customs data, and actual imports are high.
2, A large amount of Iranian oil enters China through third-party re-export trade. These data are reflected in China's trade data with third parties.

The unilateral sanctions imposed by the United States on Iran have indeed had some impact on China-Iran bilateral trade. But it is mainly reflected in trade settlements, and it has less impact on actual China-Iran bilateral trade.

As for the military trade between China-Iran, the influence of the United States is completely negligible. It only depends on the willingness of the Chinese-Iranian parties to cooperate and international conventions (including, of course, the resolutions adopted by the UN Security Council). As long as Iran dares to place an order, China dares to sell it to Iran.

Huawei Incident. The real core reason is that Huawei's development is a serious threat to the leadership of American companies in the field of communications technology. The U.S. government used the Iranian issue as a pretext to intervene using illegal political means. The incident itself is not connected with China-Iran trade. Even if China-Iran bilateral trade were completely suspended, and even if Huawei were to completely terminate its operations in Iran, the U.S. government would inevitably take the same measures against Huawei.
Iran is a large country, 15 billion is a small piece of cake

UAE is small compared with iran, trade between china and UAE is above 100 billion dollars

because of huawei issue happened in iran, a lot of High tech company in china stopped do business with iran. it is the selection made by themselves.
 
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Iran is a large country, 15 billion is a small piece of cake

UAE is small compared with iran, trade between china and UAE is above 100 billion dollars

because of huawei issue happened in iran, a lot of High tech company in china stopped do business with iran. it is the selection made by themselves.
Don't only look at the official picture. As @Michael alluded to, a lot of the trade between Iran and other countries are off the books. This is certainly the case the UAE. Of that 100 billion dollar trade I suspect that most of it is actually trade intended for Iran. There's nothing in the UAE that can justify those number and besides most business, if I remember correctly, are owned and run by Iranians. The UAE is basically an Iranian shell company. For this reason I'm always perplexed when they open their mouths sprouting nonsense and being hostile towards Iran.
 
and here in the photo the seventh, if as previously they are delivered in pairs the Yak-130s already delivered to Iran should be 8
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reports say 12 have been delivered. seems plausible

but the real story is su-35 and for that we still wait for evidence
 
What was the Huawei issue?

It was a BS excuse aimed at stifling Huawei. Please read @Michael post on the issue.
 

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