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[Ali_Baba]

God bless our army and our militants

I have criticized the reformist and liberal politicians as much as I could,
but when it comes to militants and generals, it is completely unfair to criticize or mock them,
because these people seek martyrdom for the sake of their people and their country, and have placed themselves in front of the enemy to defend their nation

Anyone who "seeks" martyrdom is not serving the best interests of Iran. The core responsibility of any member of Irans Armed Forces, is Iran's interests, not their own personal interests. No one in the armed forces should "seek" martyrdom, they instead should be the best professionals they can be, who will do their job and look to win at everything all the time. They should look to live so that they can perform their duties, to protect Iran every day they can. To be there for every day the enemy turns up. They should look to make Iranian armed forces better than they can be...

If martyrdom comes as a result of your performing your role, then that is the only true martyrdom. Seeking it, is not..

Maybe that is why the Iranian Armed Forces perform so poorly and are so ineffective ? Everyone is just, well, seeking "martyrdom" ???

 

[Kyussis]

Maybe that is why the Iranian Armed Forces perform so poorly and are so ineffective ? Everyone is just, well, seeking "martyrdom" ???

Or maybe it's because unlike Pakistan, we are not fighting Indians!

 

[OldTwilight]

میگ ۲۹ روسی به ایران رسید/ جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ در راهند

ابوالفضل ظهره‌وند، عضو کمیسیون امنیت ملی مجلس گفت: جنگنده‌های میگ ۲۹ روسی بعنوان راهکار کوتاه مدت وارد ایران شده‌اند و برای راهکارهای بلند مدت جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ به تدریج وارد می‌شوند.

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a Parliament member ,

 

[Shafagh]

میگ ۲۹ روسی به ایران رسید/ جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ در راهند

ابوالفضل ظهره‌وند، عضو کمیسیون امنیت ملی مجلس گفت: جنگنده‌های میگ ۲۹ روسی بعنوان راهکار کوتاه مدت وارد ایران شده‌اند و برای راهکارهای بلند مدت جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ به تدریج وارد می‌شوند.

fararu.com

a Parliament member ,

Is he legit or is he saying this based on "Oh i have heard reports" ?

 

[Flotilla]

میگ ۲۹ روسی به ایران رسید/ جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ در راهند

ابوالفضل ظهره‌وند، عضو کمیسیون امنیت ملی مجلس گفت: جنگنده‌های میگ ۲۹ روسی بعنوان راهکار کوتاه مدت وارد ایران شده‌اند و برای راهکارهای بلند مدت جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ به تدریج وارد می‌شوند.

fararu.com

a Parliament member ,

I don´t know if it is true.
But it is obvious that all Regime it is within the Israel and US air forces because just IADs are not enough. They can be easily jammed or destroyed (at least key components via anti radiation missiles) so seems day after day more evident newer fighters to interact with IADs.

 

[ShapurII]

میگ ۲۹ روسی به ایران رسید/ جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ در راهند

ابوالفضل ظهره‌وند، عضو کمیسیون امنیت ملی مجلس گفت: جنگنده‌های میگ ۲۹ روسی بعنوان راهکار کوتاه مدت وارد ایران شده‌اند و برای راهکارهای بلند مدت جنگنده‌های سوخو ۳۵ به تدریج وارد می‌شوند.

fararu.com

a Parliament member ,

Is he legit or is he saying this based on "Oh i have heard reports" ?

He's a clown. Don't take him seriously. He always talks about what he has "heard".

 

[kastor ville]

He's a clown. Don't take him seriously. He always talks about what he has "heard".

Yeah...they need to get the Air defense radars and missiles up before they get fighters, or else they'll be destroyed in the first round. We need a modern IADS before we think about fixing up the air force.

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah...they need to get the Air defense radars and missiles up before they get fighters, or else they'll be destroyed in the first round. We need a modern IADS before we think about fixing up the air force.

Theoretically, we can keep our new jet fighters in bunkers like Oghab-44, but I agree with you.
Something along the lines "نقد رو بچسب، نسیه رو ول کن". The sooner we receive jet fighters, the better. Who knows what will happen later.
Anyway, there are no plans to rebuild IRIAF, I believe.

 

[Flotilla]

Anyway that news are spreading around the globe. They're citing the same MP.

Así son los aviones MiG-29 y Su-35 con los que Rusia equipa a Irán | Internacional | Noticias | El Universo

Teherán incorpora aviones de combate de última generación provenientes de Moscú.

www.eluniverso.com

 

[mangekyo]

I’m no AF expert. But isn’t mig 29 useless against targeting Israeli F15s launching ALBMs over Iraq and F35s supposedly entering our airspace?

 

[BigMela2onin]

I’m no AF expert. But isn’t mig 29 useless against targeting Israeli F15s launching ALBMs over Iraq and F35s supposedly entering our airspace?

Yes, max range of a R-27R is like 45 miles. Close up against a F-35 it might actually win but it will probably never get close.

 

[kastor ville]

He's a clown. Don't take him seriously. He always talks about what he has "heard".

Yeah...they need to get the Air defense radars and missiles up before they get fighters, or else they'll be destroyed in the first round. We need a modern IADS before we think about fixing up the air force.

Theoretically, we can keep our new jet fighters in bunkers like Oghab-44, but I agree with you.
Something along the lines "نقد رو بچسب، نسیه رو ول کن". The sooner we receive jet fighters, the better. Who knows what will happen later.
Anyway, there are no plans to rebuild IRIAF, I believe.

Man, my mom and father were full of Persian sayings....I never heard that one. I guess it's the equivalent to the American one, they say "A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush" meaning you have a bird in hand ...the 2 loose in a bush may get away.

 

[Shafagh]

I’m no AF expert. But isn’t mig 29 useless against targeting Israeli F15s launching ALBMs over Iraq and F35s supposedly entering our airspace?

No. The Zhuk ME radar has a range of 120km and can track 10 targets, engage 4 simultaneously. ZHUK MS for Su 27 has 150km range.

IRIAF Migs may not even have to engage the F15s head on. If they can detect and down cruise missiles and drones, they are doing their job.

Even 2 dozen Mig 29 SMT or Su 27 is a valuable deterrent.

Israel only has a handful of F35s.

 

[ToddE]

No. The Zhuk ME radar has a range of 120km and can track 10 targets, engage 4 simultaneously. ZHUK MS for Su 27 has 150km range.

IRIAF Migs may not even have to engage the F15s head on. If they can detect and down cruise missiles and drones, they are doing their job.

Even 2 dozen Mig 29 SMT or Su 27 is a valuable deterrent.

Israel only has a handful of F35s.

Zhuk-ME is a 90s or early 2000s era PESA radar that will be jammed within seconds by modern NATO E-warfare pods or general ECCM. Also against an F-35 its useless since it wont be able to search and track it before WVR ranges until which F-35 itself would have let loose AIM-120D+AIM-9X. Another problem for a MIG-29 size fighter is its limitation to carry LR-BVR that can thwart the ALBM launch by IAF fighters over Iraq. MIG-29SMT/M/M2/35 cant carry R-37, its BVR engagement is limited to R-77AE/SD which are limited to 80-110 KM.

Overall, I have always been in favor of IRIAF re-built around single platform of 150-180 MIG-29M (old MLUed airframes) + MIG-35 (CKD/TOTed). Russia has plenty of them stored and has no use of them. Atleast they would not allow intruder drones, UCAVs, SOWs, and to some extent can provide coverage over southern/southern eastern Iraq and over Persian Gulf. For fighting IAF over Iraq, we need QRA SU-35S with R-37, atleast 60-70 of them, IADS cant bring down ALBM launching fighters, 300-500 KM away from Iranian borders. Fighting IAF over Iraq is fighting USSR powered Baathist Iraqi AF. IRIAF won that war because we had long ranged powerful F-14A with AIM-54A as LRBVR. SU-35S can fill that gap for now.

 

[Geo]

It is illusory to think that Iran, after years of neglecting its air force and infrastructure, could quickly gain the capability to face the F-35I. That takes years.

However, in the current situation, any platform capable of eliminating the threat from drones and cruise missiles can be useful. So, even if Russia were to supply old MiG-29s (9.12s) on an emergency basis, it would be very valuable for air defense, especially if an adequate number of R-73 and R-27 missiles are included in the delivery (yes, they are practically useless against the F-35).

A major advantage of the MiG-29 is the familiarity of this type with both Iranian flight and ground personnel, which means significant savings in time and resources.

And a second major advantage is its maneuverability, which allows for effective gunfire even against the aforementioned types of targets.