Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[Persian Gulf]

The more land Israel steals from Syria the more trust lost. It is surprisingly stupid killing Tahrir Al Sham "soldiers" and grab more land. Even if Al Jolani doesn't want, he would be grab sooner or later to the war.

Even if Turkey also doesn't want the war, the dark ties of Israel with Greece and Cyprus It is a provocation that Erdogan cannot ignore.

Israel could eventually make a deal with Al Jolani and I bet even with Turkey to coexist all three countries. But don't be naive. It is in the jewish DNA to split or overcome the Government of any military power that could eventually challenge their freedom of action. So even if nobody wants that war they're condemned to clash over Libya, Syria and even Cyprus and beyond (even Sudán possibly).

Many israelí newspapers didn't wait even a month. When iranians were expelled they regreted inmediately.

yes, Israel is being too greedy and arrogant. they had a former Salafist on his knees to make peace with them, ready to give up Golan Heights and everything, but that wasn't enough for them, they wanted more

 

[PakAl]

yes, Israel is being too greedy and arrogant. they had a former Salafist on his knees to make peace with them, ready to give up Golan Heights and everything, but that wasn't enough for them, they wanted more

They plan for the next 100 years, they don't want united Syria, even if its under their control. They want independent kurdish nation from Syria to Iraq, which will be pro Israel but always have issues with Turkey, Iran and arab nations. They will also make sure Syria has different power players so it stays destabilised like Lebanon, a toothless nation. In South Syria they're trying to capture more territory and cause destability so some allies can be found to expand their influence.

 

[ToddE]

Turkey is rival of Israel, it doesnt mean they are enemies or want to destroy each other, regarding the trade,

You don't trade with your enemy or rival.

the whole world wants to trade with Usa and EU who in turn support Israel, Israel is the military outpost of Usa and EU.

False, Jews run EU and US governments through lobbies and funds, they are not an "outpost" of west. They run the west otherwise Trump wont be asking Miriam Adelson for money for his campaigns or being blackmailed by Mossad for his pedo past with their operative Epstein.

Doesn't Iran want good relations with the Usa and EU, ofcourse they do, Russia as alleged is also not anti Israel but Iran is their best pal, India is openly pro Israel but Iran is their trading partner.

Russia and Iran have been bloody enemies for centuries until 1991 when USSR dissolved. Still they have minimal relations. Iran and Indian trade is minimal as well due to sanctions.

Militarily Turkey is working hard towards building 1000km ballistic/cruise missiles, they don't need Iranian style of missile cities since they rely on their advance airforce and navy to launch missiles in order to defend themselves. They are doing remarkable in this field. Turkey will not be allowed to build nukes or they will be sanctions like Iran North Korea.

Let me give you some background that you lack on the subject. The moment Israel feels even an ounce of threat from Turkey like they did from Iran in 2000s, they will do the following:

1) Zio Jews will sanction and embargo Turkey to extremes. Half of Turkish GDP is western or Jew debt. Country has no resource to rely upon either. It will be crippled to a failed state within few years. They will not stay idle after this, they will fund political groups, dissidents, separatists like they did against Iran ... and by fund I mean they can funnel in cash more than GDP of few countries in Islamic world.

2) Militarily, Israel with US and EU help (supplies, cash etc) can lob 25-40 tonnes a day through ALBMs, SOWs on FABs which are just across the border with IAF owned skies. Turkey does not have layered OTHs or Sat-Nav support, they rely upon area coverage/point defense SAMs. All the FABs of Turkey will be gone within 1-2 days. In return they cant do this to Israel. What happens after this ? Turkey has no nuclear threshold threat, it has no underground missile cities, no brigades of hundreds and thousands of TELs firing hundreds and hundreds of hypersonic missiles in reciprocating strikes. I am not wishing this on Turkey, we are same blood people but this is pure maths. Trust me on this, Israelis and westerners are no fools.

In Syria the Usa wanted for decades to topple Assad and when the war started Saudia pumped billions to the rebels via Usa blessings, Turkey then also joined in to support their Muslim Brotherhood allies and Turk allies. I don't support the Syrian war but it happened and every nation now is working towards getting a piece of the cake. Usa/Israel/Uae supporting the Kurds, Turkey supporting SNA and MB types, Saudia Usa and others supporting Jolani, they removed all sanctions. Saudi is now working overtime to promote their religious ideology to Syria.

Read Epstein files, he is literally talking with Ehud Barak about Israeli plan to topple Assad and Iranian and Russian backing of Assad. Assad's Syria was a problem for Israel because it was militarily strongest Arab country in 2000s with proper Air Defence, Missiles, AIrforce and Iran and Russia, the strong backers. Syria provided bridge to Iran to Hezbollah and Hamas. Iran created a crescent around Israel with Assad in Damascus. Being major ally of Iran and Russia, Assad was safe, Israelis could not convince US despite trying to topple Assad. Assad became problem to West only because Qatari and US owned Iraqi hydrocarbon was supposed to be passed from Iraq into Syria into Turkey and then into EU to (A) reduce shipping costs (B) take over the market of Russian Gazprom. Assad refused this idea because of Russian and Iranian pressure. Russia and Iran both saw their own market being snatched and Iran saw threat to its reach to Hezb and Hamas. Hence finally west entered Syria to topple him and half GDP debted Turkey was used as a condom by Israel+West on Levant arabs as usual. Turkey funneled in FSA terrorists into Syria. This mission kept on going for 12-14 years until Jolani the CIA asset is finally in Damacus. The effect of all this ? Hamas has been butchered by Israel because Israel does not have to worry about Assad and Hezbollah. Hezbollah no longer can get weapons from Iran. Israel rules skies of Jordan, Syria, Iraq freely. They have land occupation upto Damascus. Turkey supplies them raw materials and oil like a good beech and refuses to arm up strategically so Israel virtually has no threat anymore. Now you know Turkeys place in Israeli game. We Azeris Turks are simple people, we say what we see.

Do I care? as an Iranian nationalist I dont, Turkey can keep on sucking Israeli dong 24/7 for all I care. My focus is my country. Israel should colonize all arabs if they please to do so, just leave us out of this.

 

[PakAl]

You don't trade with your enemy or rival.

The world has changed, rivals and even enemies trade with each other unless you mess with the wrong opponent ie Usa. Usa is giving weapons to Taiwan but China still trades with the Usa. Some nations have a different policy than direct confrontation unless ofcourse war takes place or some kind of redline is crossed.

False, Jews run EU and US governments through lobbies and funds, they are not an "outpost" of west. They run the west otherwise Trump wont be asking Miriam Adelson for money for his campaigns or being blackmailed by Mossad for his pedo past with their operative Epstein.

Agree but it was the west who created Israel, made it strong and today I can't disagree they run the western world. Whatever it is, the outcome is Usa and Israel is one.

Russia and Iran have been bloody enemies for centuries until 1991 when USSR dissolved. Still they have minimal relations. Iran and Indian trade is minimal as well due to sanctions.

Who is Iranian international ally then, is Iran standing on its own, not a good policy is it. From what I know Iran is Russian biggest ally and vice versa.

Let me give you some background that you lack on the subject. The moment Israel feels even an ounce of threat from Turkey like they did from Iran in 2000s, they will do the following:

1) Zio Jews will sanction and embargo Turkey to extremes. Half of Turkish GDP is western or Jew debt. Country has no resource to rely upon either. It will be crippled to a failed state within few years. They will not stay idle after this, they will fund political groups, dissidents, separatists like they did against Iran ... and by fund I mean they can funnel in cash more than GDP of few countries in Islamic world.

2) Militarily, Israel with US and EU help (supplies, cash etc) can lob 25-40 tonnes a day through ALBMs, SOWs on FABs which are just across the border with IAF owned skies. Turkey does not have layered OTHs or Sat-Nav support, they rely upon area coverage/point defense SAMs. All the FABs of Turkey will be gone within 1-2 days. In return they cant do this to Israel. What happens after this ? Turkey has no nuclear threshold threat, it has no underground missile cities, no brigades of hundreds and thousands of TELs firing hundreds and hundreds of hypersonic missiles in reciprocating strikes. I am not wishing this on Turkey, we are same blood people but this is pure maths. Trust me on this, Israelis and westerners are no fools.

I understand all this, this is why I said Israel Turkey will not have a direct war, but they are rivals in Syria and elsewhere, at times have shared interests. Turkey aim is to be a regional power which Israel does not want, the GCC also do not want Turkish rise but they are rising slowly. In the the future Turkey will be dealt with, in my opinion through Kurdish state and pro west/gcc Syria. However Turkey is slowly building up military, they are building navy, fighter jets, drones, 1000km range missiles. They are not as weak as you think they are but their policy is different from Iran, they sit with their rivals and work towards their own agendas whilst at the same time building themselves up. Turkey has the big disadvantage that the GCC Arabs and alot of Arabs don't like them, they think Ottomans are back to occupy them so they can't really have too much influence in the arab world. Even today in Syria, will Jolani support Turkey or Saudia, he is Saudi man 100%.

Read Epstein files, he is literally talking with Ehud Barak about Israeli plan to topple Assad and Iranian and Russian backing of Assad. Assad's Syria was a problem for Israel because it was militarily strongest Arab country in 2000s with proper Air Defence, Missiles, AIrforce and Iran and Russia, the strong backers. Syria provided bridge to Iran to Hezbollah and Hamas. Iran created a crescent around Israel with Assad in Damascus. Being major ally of Iran and Russia, Assad was safe, Israelis could not convince US despite trying to topple Assad. Assad became problem to West only because Qatari and US owned Iraqi hydrocarbon was supposed to be passed from Iraq into Syria into Turkey and then into EU to (A) reduce shipping costs (B) take over the market of Russian Gazprom. Assad refused this idea because of Russian and Iranian pressure. Russia and Iran both saw their own market being snatched and Iran saw threat to its reach to Hezb and Hamas. Hence finally west entered Syria to topple him and half GDP debted Turkey was used as a condom by Israel+West on Levant arabs as usual. Turkey funneled in FSA terrorists into Syria. This mission kept on going for 12-14 years until Jolani the CIA asset is finally in Damacus. The effect of all this ? Hamas has been butchered by Israel because Israel does not have to worry about Assad and Hezbollah. Hezbollah no longer can get weapons from Iran. Israel rules skies of Jordan, Syria, Iraq freely. They have land occupation upto Damascus. Turkey supplies them raw materials and oil like a good beech and refuses to arm up strategically so Israel virtually has no threat anymore. Now you know Turkeys place in Israeli game. We Azeris Turks are simple people, we say what we see.

Do I care? as an Iranian nationalist I dont, Turkey can keep on sucking Israeli dong 24/7 for all I care. My focus is my country. Israel should colonize all arabs if they please to do so, just leave us out of this.

We all know about Israeli plans, Syrian wasn't only toppled by Turkey but arab GCC, they hated Assad, just like hated Saddam and Gaddafi, all toppled. Saudia gave billions of funding to the rebels. Iran will not be left alone by Israel until the regime collapsed or Iran is destroyed, they will never forget or forgive Iran bombing them, to them Iran must be finished, then they will have total control of the middleeast. Saudis will control the wahabis, and Uae will control the secularist or moderate elements, the MB elements whom Turkey maintain close connections will be finished off as seen in Gaza. The new governments will all trade with the Usa and Israelis, all their militaries will be like Jordan, Egypt, Saudi, Iraq and Uae, no threat to Israel. Turkey is a question mark for them, yes they are part of Nato but also building up their own agendas. Erdogan maybe finished soon and replace by CHP or another Jolani type, all neoottomanism will be finished off.

 

[PakAl]

Some of the most retarded takes are mostly done on this section by Iranian aligned elements.

And I am gonna highlight here why? They always fail to predict a situation nor see the world for what it actully is because they are mostly near minded.

But I do admit that you had better take then the one you replied to which doesn´t say much.

1. Turkey, GCC, Egypt have all mended ties and do not hold beef currently towards each other.

2. Fallacy number 2. Jordan, Egypt, Saudi and UAE have all strong militaries.

3. No GCC had no gain from Assad falling and only came in to gain from it after he left. UAE was hosting his family during the war and all the GCC were with Assad and invited him even back to the arab league but unfortunately Turkey didn´t want him there.

4. Falsehood number 4.. Israel doesn´t control the EU/US that is completely ridiculous it is actully the opposite.

5. MB will be finished in Gaza? Hamas is stil there and not going anywhere and holding a new election. Gaza infras destroyed but Hamas never defeated militarily.

6. The collapse of the Iranian regime is completely delulu and nothing will happen to the Iranian regime do you think it is cartoonish that you can go into Iran and collapse the gov´t. come on lets be real.

All your predictions were miles off.

Here is what is gonna happen in the next 15-20 years.

Quite surprisingly it will be a relatively peaceful period.

SDF will be no more come 2026, Yemen will remain in this status quo for another decade and then they will split.

Syria will economically grow and develope massively in the next 15-20 years in all fields and there will be peace between Syria and Israel as Syria will become a major non-nato ally

In truth Israel is irrelevant already but with time it will become even more irrelevant. the Most relevant force in the world is NATO it will remain to be so for the next 15-20 years.

Everyone will become militarily stronger in the next 15-20 years but in truth with time everyone will become stronger

1 - They cannot amend ties so quickly, in Libya, Yemen, Sudan they are rivals. Saudia and Uae consider MB as terrorists, consider Hamas as terrorists. Turkey does not. You see the rivalry is still here. This was my point. In Sudan Saudia Qatar support the Islamist types and army and Uae support the secular movements, same in Yemen.

2 - No doubt Saudia Uae Egypt Jordan have strong militaries but no threat to Israel. Qatar also has a decent military. From these Egypt is the proper military, they will fight Israel to defend themselves as shown during Gaza war when Israel wanted to expel Palestinians to Gaza. But Usa still does not give cutting edge technologies to Egypt to keep them below Israel. Israel is the dominating power in the middleeast, this is why they bomb Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Yemen, Iraq at will.

3 - What are you on about. Saudis wanted Assad gone, they pumped billions to the rebels, issues fatwas of jihad. Not sure about Uae since recently they have been supporting secularist and moderate elements.

4 - I said at the beginning Israel is the military outpost of the Usa but someone disagreed so I said okay Israel controls the Usa, it's the same thing. Rich zionists have big influence in Usa foreign policies and they make sure Israel is protected, given latest weaponary, economic backing. The point was they are the same, you don't attack Israel and Usa will not back Israel, they will 100% defend Israel at all cost.

5 - That is the plan, to finish Hamas in Gaza, the PA will overtake, and Palestinian police force will take control. They will destroy all tunnels and disarm Hamas from offensive weapons like missiles, rockets etc. The plan is to make sure Hamas never gets powerful again.

6 - Its the plan, doesnt mean I predict it. Israel wants Iran finished, they may attack again to destroy Iranian missiles factories, nuclear facilities, tanks, navy etc. This then will weaken Iranian military which will lead to destability. It doesnt mean it will happen but this is what they plan to do, they plan to remove the regime.

What peaceful period will happen in the next 15 20 years when Syria, Yemen, Libya, Sudan are having internal wars, Gaza is being bombed, and Lebanon has Hizbollah threat to Israel. Israel also occupies Syrian territory, will Israel withdraw and leave Golan Heights aswell. I only pray peace happens.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Some of the most retarded takes are mostly done on this section by Iranian aligned elements.

looks like someone is mad at iran deporting afgandus

 

[Meengla]

Mullah cultists love to peddle the idea of Iran-Russia-China alliance LOL. what they do not know or understand is that both Russia and China are staunch Anti Islamic nations. Russians or Slavics in general hate Muslims, they banned Islamic practices in Central Asian SSRs. Russia has attacked/colonized more Islamic countries than entire west combined. Chinese are running concentration camps of Ughurs but ayatollah followers somehow deluded themselves into thinking that a Draconian Islamist IRI can somehow be aligned with Russians and Chinese.

Happened to read this jumping into this. Maybe you don't know that the (Soviet) Russians also conquered and occupied a large swathe of Eastern Europe and also banned Christian churches. BTW, the Central Asian Muslim nations are better off because of the Soviets introducing 'education' to them--something the PDPA party of Afghanistan also wanted and tried in the 70s albeit with a little too much zeal and stupidity and failed, but that's for another thread.
As to the 'concentration camps' of the Uighurs in China: I have looked at the images and videos of China's Xingjian region: At worst, they still look better than many regions of the world. Maybe they are China's version of Stalin's de-indoctrinations. Only if there could be an Stalin for Afghanistan right now!

 

[Meengla]

They plan for the next 100 years, they don't want united Syria, even if its under their control. They want independent kurdish nation from Syria to Iraq, which will be pro Israel but always have issues with Turkey, Iran and arab nations. They will also make sure Syria has different power players so it stays destabilised like Lebanon, a toothless nation. In South Syria they're trying to capture more territory and cause destability so some allies can be found to expand their influence.

Good post and sounds about right.
But, hey, 'freedom' has come to Syria now! Freedom from hundreds of Sq Km more land to Israel!

 

[PakAl]

Good post and sounds about right.
But, hey, 'freedom' has come to Syria now! Freedom from hundreds of Sq Km more land to Israel!

Plus slavery, oil and gas benefits to foreign entities. Mubarak. The people still believe revolution has happened.

 

[mangekyo]

Turkey's half GDP is foriegn western-Jew debt, country has no credible natural resources to rely upon in case of elongated conflict because thats the only thing that keeps your war chest going. It has no strategic deterrence either (nuclear threshold, missile power missing) so it cant even carry out quarter the damage IRGC did to Israel because in case of war with Israel + US, its few forward airbases will be bombed to shreds within 1-2 days and there goes any chance for reciprocation. How many missile bases they have ? how many TELs ? missiles are few and conventional SRBMs which will be picked upon by US and Israeli Search n Track assets upon their launch. We know with US help, Israel can lob 800-1000 tonnes of ALBM/SOWs/PGMs in 10 days, even 25 % of that is enough to cripple forward ABs.

Even before all of that, with same level of crippling sanctions that they imposed on Iran, if are imposed on Turkey, will result in destruction of Western debt based Turkish economy. This is the reason that while Sunni arabs are being genocided into meat strings by Israeli PGMs on daily basis, Sunni Turkey is providing Billions worth of raw material to Israel like a loyal servant for years. They just cant stop for Erdogan knows what will happen to him and his country if he decides to take the Iranian route with Israel. His only resistance to Israel is barking on Podium, I hate Islamic Iranian government but they atleast have directly or indirectly killed thousands of Israelis through their proxies, weapon supply, missiles etc. Waste of money IMO, we are not arabs, not Islamists eithers. But Turkey has never even fired a single bullet in direction of Israel for the reasons stated above and never will. Its a conventionally armed (useless in war), highly debted country.

Why is this even up for debate? Its all theatrics and Turkey being cocky. Turkey wouldn’t put all its power to topple Assad and destroy the Hezbollah corridor only to replace the government with zio loving ISIS. Not to mention the direct arms and oil shipments from Turkey to Israel which members here seem to conveniently ignore for obvious reasons.

 

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[ToddE]

looks like someone is mad at iran deporting afgandus

This is a multi account weird troll obsessed with Iranians, worships Afghans to extremes. Often posts flaming comments in Iranian section then runs away.

 

[hasssanali8998]

This is a multi account weird troll obsessed with Iranians, worships Afghans to extremes. Often posts flaming comments in Iranian section then runs away.

yes and he is weirdly interested in Syria to the point where he had a second account where he pretended to be a Syrian .

 

[ToddE]

yes and he is weirdly interested in Syria to the point where he had a second account where he pretended to be a Syrian .

He needs to get a job. He was once lecturing us who is "Turkic" and who is "Iranic" lol from one of his "Central Asian" accounts. Some weird lonely boy caught up in sectarianism.