Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[FUB]

It seems now that Israel can no longer use the “nuclear card” to attack Iran, they are now using the ‘missile card’ to justify attacking Iran.

And naive individuals on here are eating the Israeli propaganda and truly think that Israel “fears” Iran’s missiles. Saddam must be laughing from Hell.

One can only hope the IRGC and Artesh are not as gullible as some on here.

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[PakistanLVR]

Please Emirzad. You're overplaying the role of Israel. Turkey It is the second biggest NATO Army and even US cannot afford to corner and sanction Turkey.

If you care just Irán you should have a more pragmatic way to approach the Israeli-Iranian conflict.

Irán has expend decades of development fueling the AoR. To the point to sacrifice even a large conventional Army.

When Israel took out iranians from Syria they soon realized the mistake they incurred. Turkey wants to be a neo-Ottoman empire and Israel is determined to stop them.

Just ad that uncomfortable unknown quantity and Irán can obtain some return of It.

You make great points. Iran turned out to be a paper tiger (minus the 12 day imposed war on it). Failures after failures. I was one of those who was yelling to strike the enemy's capital after the Damascus Embassy attack that took out bunch of IRGC Officers in early 2024. Iran was ill-prepared, or was out-prepared. Keeping Hezbollah on a leash ensure its destruction. It's in no condition to wage anything lest it sees its areas civilians mostly get massacred like the Palestinians. The sensitive thing to was get on the ground full stream October 8th and take the war into the enemy territory. Sitting back and letting it take out each combatant one by one was foolish. I hope the Mod here doesn't ban me for the things I'm saying.

Turkey is exponentially more powerful than Iran and its militias. Best thing now is to shore up the home-front and get rid of the fifth columnists. Take a seat, you gave it your all - much blood and currency. The Turks can't get isolated like the Iranians for many historical reasons. The conflict will be Turkey and Israel in Syria.

The Turks are very well prepared, with full support of Pakistan (something that Iran severely lacked - regional backer).

Might even be in Iran's best interests to shore up its relations with the Sunni world and let things fall where they may. Just my own opinion.

 

[kastor ville]

It seems now that Israel can no longer use the “nuclear card” to attack Iran, they are now using the ‘missile card’ to justify attacking Iran.

And naive individuals on here are eating the Israeli propaganda and truly think that Israel “fears” Iran’s missiles. Saddam must be laughing from Hell.

One can only hope the IRGC and Artesh are not as gullible as some on here.

Now you're getting it.....I've written about this a 100x.. it was never about nukes...it's about domination, it's about taking out the only country in the whole of Asia that can stand up to it

 

[Flotilla]

Failures after failures. I was one of those who was yelling to strike the enemy's capital after the Damascus Embassy attack that took out bunch of IRGC Officers in early 2024. Iran was ill-prepared, or was out-prepared.

IMO Irán performed really well in some areas. The most basic and obvious was its own survival. Regime survived and most of the network continues (missile factories and SAM sites have been rebuild if not reinforced).

But unfortunately you´re right. Bad mistakes inside (spy network nearly decapitated high command leadership) and outside (fall of Syria) changes the equation completely.

Again the most obvious (and I agree with Mr Emirzad) it is the lack of a modern and credible Air Force. SAM sites can be easily jammed and even can be sabotaged. So there is mandatory an additional layer of defense. IRIAF and all Islamic Republic needs desperately a long range fighter.

And here enters Hizbollah. Being isolated by Israel in the south and rounded in the north by a hostile Regime (Al Jolani) can Hizbollah survive?. Probably they can. But if they can the cost it is so high (Lebanese people will suffer) and the resources needed are so high (it is not the same restocking their weaponry now than two years ago) that really it is not worth.

This money is needed for rebuilding the air force. And it is needed to duplicate the ballistic missile network and modernize the stockpiles.

Ironically the Turkish presence in Syria can act as an additional layer of defense for rebuilding the IRIAF and reinforce the SAM systems (it takes years to train S400 or HQ9B battalions).

It is obvious Netanyahu will never allow Turkey to deploy in Tiyas high end fighters like F16/EF2000 or even F35 or hypothetical KAANs.

Tayfun missiles, long range SAMs and other key assets would close the Syrian airspace to Israel. At cost "0" to Irán.

Even if I don´t like Al Jolani, last week two israeli soldiers were killed in a skirmish near Damascus. And it is just starting.

 

[ToddE]

You make great points. Iran turned out to be a paper tiger (minus the 12 day imposed war on it). Failures after failures. I was one of those who was yelling to strike the enemy's capital after the Damascus Embassy attack that took out bunch of IRGC Officers in early 2024. Iran was ill-prepared, or was out-prepared. Keeping Hezbollah on a leash ensure its destruction. It's in no condition to wage anything lest it sees its areas civilians mostly get massacred like the Palestinians. The sensitive thing to was get on the ground full stream October 8th and take the war into the enemy territory. Sitting back and letting it take out each combatant one by one was foolish. I hope the Mod here doesn't ban me for the things I'm saying.

Turkey is exponentially more powerful than Iran and its militias. Best thing now is to shore up the home-front and get rid of the fifth columnists. Take a seat, you gave it your all - much blood and currency. The Turks can't get isolated like the Iranians for many historical reasons. The conflict will be Turkey and Israel in Syria.

The Turks are very well prepared, with full support of Pakistan (something that Iran severely lacked - regional backer).

Might even be in Iran's best interests to shore up its relations with the Sunni world and let things fall where they may. Just my own opinion.

Turkey's half GDP is foriegn western-Jew debt, country has no credible natural resources to rely upon in case of elongated conflict because thats the only thing that keeps your war chest going. It has no strategic deterrence either (nuclear threshold, missile power missing) so it cant even carry out quarter the damage IRGC did to Israel because in case of war with Israel + US, its few forward airbases will be bombed to shreds within 1-2 days and there goes any chance for reciprocation. How many missile bases they have ? how many TELs ? missiles are few and conventional SRBMs which will be picked upon by US and Israeli Search n Track assets upon their launch. We know with US help, Israel can lob 800-1000 tonnes of ALBM/SOWs/PGMs in 10 days, even 25 % of that is enough to cripple forward ABs.

Even before all of that, with same level of crippling sanctions that they imposed on Iran, if are imposed on Turkey, will result in destruction of Western debt based Turkish economy. This is the reason that while Sunni arabs are being genocided into meat strings by Israeli PGMs on daily basis, Sunni Turkey is providing Billions worth of raw material to Israel like a loyal servant for years. They just cant stop for Erdogan knows what will happen to him and his country if he decides to take the Iranian route with Israel. His only resistance to Israel is barking on Podium, I hate Islamic Iranian government but they atleast have directly or indirectly killed thousands of Israelis through their proxies, weapon supply, missiles etc. Waste of money IMO, we are not arabs, not Islamists eithers. But Turkey has never even fired a single bullet in direction of Israel for the reasons stated above and never will. Its a conventionally armed (useless in war), highly debted country.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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the difference between the USA and Israel

 

[Persian Gulf]

You're naive.......I guess you don't know how Western politics work in the open media.
Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.

When there was no uprising, they changed the narrative.....of course they would say it WAS NOT the goal.....they're saving face! Because goal #1 failed!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you that simple that you would think they'd come out and say, yeah everyone we tried, but we failed, sorry.... come on!

you are the one that said "They are several insiders on record saying it was regime change ops"

what is clear is that Israel failed to kill Khamenei. after the Iranian missile hit Soroka hospital, Katz clearly said we will try to kill Khamenei, but they couldn't find him. shame they could find everyone else

 

[Persian Gulf]

IMO Irán performed really well in some areas. The most basic and obvious was its own survival. Regime survived and most of the network continues (missile factories and SAM sites have been rebuild if not reinforced).

But unfortunately you´re right. Bad mistakes inside (spy network nearly decapitated high command leadership) and outside (fall of Syria) changes the equation completely.

Again the most obvious (and I agree with Mr Emirzad) it is the lack of a modern and credible Air Force. SAM sites can be easily jammed and even can be sabotaged. So there is mandatory an additional layer of defense. IRIAF and all Islamic Republic needs desperately a long range fighter.

And here enters Hizbollah. Being isolated by Israel in the south and rounded in the north by a hostile Regime (Al Jolani) can Hizbollah survive?. Probably they can. But if they can the cost it is so high (Lebanese people will suffer) and the resources needed are so high (it is not the same restocking their weaponry now than two years ago) that really it is not worth.

This money is needed for rebuilding the air force. And it is needed to duplicate the ballistic missile network and modernize the stockpiles.

Ironically the Turkish presence in Syria can act as an additional layer of defense for rebuilding the IRIAF and reinforce the SAM systems (it takes years to train S400 or HQ9B battalions).

It is obvious Netanyahu will never allow Turkey to deploy in Tiyas high end fighters like F16/EF2000 or even F35 or hypothetical KAANs.

Tayfun missiles, long range SAMs and other key assets would close the Syrian airspace to Israel. At cost "0" to Irán.

Even if I don´t like Al Jolani, last week two israeli soldiers were killed in a skirmish near Damascus. And it is just starting.

yes, it is in Iran's interest to support Turkey strengthening air defences / radars in Syria

but I didn't see any indication Turkey is willing to do this, since Israel will oppose it very strongly, and Turkey will probably back down (it probably already did). and the Al Jolani regime well we all see how desperate he is for Israeli approval so we should not wait for him or his supporters to do anything against Israel

 

[Shags101]

Netanyahu to depart for Florida on Sunday, meet with Trump, Rubio on Monday

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www.timesofisrael.com

So is it me or does Iran need to have its actual finger on the launch pads because I’m feeling this is like Deja vu im hoping this isn’t let’s wait for someone to give a command 6 hours later just do it at the moment of they sense something awry

 

[kobra]

Netanyahu to depart for Florida on Sunday, meet with Trump, Rubio on Monday

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www.timesofisrael.com

So is it me or does Iran need to have its actual finger on the launch pads because I’m feeling this is like Deja vu im hoping this isn’t let’s wait for someone to give a command 6 hours later just do it at the moment of they sense something awry

Spot on. Hopefully IR wont repeat the same mistakes, All this media leaks are art of plan, attack is coming before the pig even departs or is there meeting his orange puppy.

 

[Flotilla]

yes, it is in Iran's interest to support Turkey strengthening air defences / radars in Syria

but I didn't see any indication Turkey is willing to do this, since Israel will oppose it very strongly, and Turkey will probably back down (it probably already did). and the Al Jolani regime well we all see how desperate he is for Israeli approval so we should not wait for him or his supporters to do anything against Israel

The more land Israel steals from Syria the more trust lost. It is surprisingly stupid killing Tahrir Al Sham "soldiers" and grab more land. Even if Al Jolani doesn't want, he would be grab sooner or later to the war.

Even if Turkey also doesn't want the war, the dark ties of Israel with Greece and Cyprus It is a provocation that Erdogan cannot ignore.

Israel could eventually make a deal with Al Jolani and I bet even with Turkey to coexist all three countries. But don't be naive. It is in the jewish DNA to split or overcome the Government of any military power that could eventually challenge their freedom of action. So even if nobody wants that war they're condemned to clash over Libya, Syria and even Cyprus and beyond (even Sudán possibly).

Many israelí newspapers didn't wait even a month. When iranians were expelled they regreted inmediately.

 

[PakAl]

Turkey's half GDP is foriegn western-Jew debt, country has no credible natural resources to rely upon in case of elongated conflict because thats the only thing that keeps your war chest going. It has no strategic deterrence either (nuclear threshold, missile power missing) so it cant even carry out quarter the damage IRGC did to Israel because in case of war with Israel + US, its few forward airbases will be bombed to shreds within 1-2 days and there goes any chance for reciprocation. How many missile bases they have ? how many TELs ? missiles are few and conventional SRBMs which will be picked upon by US and Israeli Search n Track assets upon their launch. We know with US help, Israel can lob 800-1000 tonnes of ALBM/SOWs/PGMs in 10 days, even 25 % of that is enough to cripple forward ABs.

Even before all of that, with same level of crippling sanctions that they imposed on Iran, if are imposed on Turkey, will result in destruction of Western debt based Turkish economy. This is the reason that while Sunni arabs are being genocided into meat strings by Israeli PGMs on daily basis, Sunni Turkey is providing Billions worth of raw material to Israel like a loyal servant for years. They just cant stop for Erdogan knows what will happen to him and his country if he decides to take the Iranian route with Israel. His only resistance to Israel is barking on Podium, I hate Islamic Iranian government but they atleast have directly or indirectly killed thousands of Israelis through their proxies, weapon supply, missiles etc. Waste of money IMO, we are not arabs, not Islamists eithers. But Turkey has never even fired a single bullet in direction of Israel for the reasons stated above and never will. Its a conventionally armed (useless in war), highly debted country.

Turkey will never fight Israel one on one. This is why they are trying to win in Syria which is a big challenge. Kurds are with the Usa and Israel, alot of Arabs Jolani types are with Saudia and only the islamist MB types are with Turkey. Saudis already pumping billions to change Syria from Sunni Shafi sufi to wahabi country whom will always be anti Turkey. Regarding if Israel attacks Turkey, it will not happen, Turkey is military powerful enough to defend themselves from any attacks, they are building missiles at a rapid pace, have world class navy, airforce etc.

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[PakAl]

The more land Israel steals from Syria the more trust lost. It is surprisingly stupid killing Tahrir Al Sham "soldiers" and grab more land. Even if Al Jolani doesn't want, he would be grab sooner or later to the war.

Even if Turkey also doesn't want the war, the dark ties of Israel with Greece and Cyprus It is a provocation that Erdogan cannot ignore.

Israel could eventually make a deal with Al Jolani and I bet even with Turkey to coexist all three countries. But don't be naive. It is in the jewish DNA to split or overcome the Government of any military power that could eventually challenge their freedom of action. So even if nobody wants that war they're condemned to clash over Libya, Syria and even Cyprus and beyond (even Sudán possibly).

Many israelí newspapers didn't wait even a month. When iranians were expelled they regreted inmediately.

Their main plan is for a kurdish state, from Iraqi side to Syrian side, a big ally in the region, majority of kurdish people want the same.

 

[ToddE]

Turkey will never fight Israel one on one. This is why they are trying to win in Syria which is a big challenge. Kurds are with the Usa and Israel, alot of Arabs Jolani types are with Saudia and only the islamist MB types are with Turkey. Saudis already pumping billions to change Syria from Sunni Shafi sufi to wahabi country whom will always be anti Turkey. Regarding if Israel attacks Turkey, it will not happen, Turkey is military powerful enough to defend themselves from any attacks, they are building missiles at a rapid pace, have world class navy, airforce etc.

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Turkey supplies 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material to Israel, never stopped even during the times when Israel was meat grinding 200-300 Sunni Arabs per day so spare me the crap about Turkey vs Israel. Israel used Turkey to topple Assad and now Israel can rule over Syrian land upto Damascus thanks to Turkey just like they can fly till Iran nonstop thanks to Jordan. Because of these reasons, Turkey has never and will never fire even a single bullet in direction of Israel. Majority Turkish are pure ethnonationalists who give Zero F about any Islamic fantasy. Trust me I know them more than you do.

And you may never understand but war is economy and Turkey being massively Western/Jew debted resourceless nation cant sustain an elongated war. They know it which is why they will do whatever Jew master will tell them to do ... supply raw materials, supply Azeri oil etc Also Turkey is not allowed to wield any credible missile power otherwise what is stopping them from building IRGCASF 2.0 inside Turkey? They can build underground missile bases, build an arsenal of 3000-4000 MRBMs, fire away SLVs, build hypersonics, wield out some 1000 TELs but they are not doing it because this will disfavor Israeli upper hand in the region. Erdogan knows it which is why they are allowed a conventional military which Israel can easily overpower. If they try to go nuclear or build credible missile force like that of Iran which can threaten Israeli existence, West will destroy Turkey economically, its 10 times easier to do so than it was for Iran just because of debted resourceless economy alone.

 

[PakAl]

Turkey supplies 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material to Israel, never stopped even during the times when Israel was meat grinding 200-300 Sunni Arabs per day so spare me the crap about Turkey vs Israel. Israel used Turkey to topple Assad and now Israel can rule over Syrian land upto Damascus thanks to Turkey just like they can fly till Iran nonstop thanks to Jordan. Because of these reasons, Turkey has never and will never fire even a single bullet in direction of Israel. Majority Turkish are pure ethnonationalists who give Zero F about any Islamic fantasy. Trust me I know them more than you do.

And you may never understand but war is economy and Turkey being massively Western/Jew debted resourceless nation cant sustain an elongated war. They know it which is why they will do whatever Jew master will tell them to do ... supply raw materials, supply Azeri oil etc Also Turkey is not allowed to wield any credible missile power otherwise what is stopping them from building IRGCASF 2.0 inside Turkey? They can build underground missile bases, build an arsenal of 3000-4000 MRBMs, fire away SLVs, build hypersonics, wield out some 1000 TELs but they are not doing it because this will disfavor Israeli upper hand in the region. Erdogan knows it which is why they are allowed a conventional military which Israel can easily overpower. If they try to go nuclear or build credible missile force like that of Iran which can threaten Israeli existence, West will destroy Turkey economically, its 10 times easier to do so than it was for Iran just because of debted resourceless economy alone.

Turkey is rival of Israel, it doesnt mean they are enemies or want to destroy each other, regarding the trade, the whole world wants to trade with Usa and EU who in turn support Israel, Israel is the military outpost of Usa and EU. Doesn't Iran want good relations with the Usa and EU, ofcourse they do, Russia as alleged is also not anti Israel but Iran is their best pal, India is openly pro Israel but Iran is their trading partner.

Militarily Turkey is working hard towards building 1000km ballistic/cruise missiles, they don't need Iranian style of missile cities since they rely on their advance airforce and navy to launch missiles in order to defend themselves. They are doing remarkable in this field. Turkey will not be allowed to build nukes or they will be sanctions like Iran North Korea.

In Syria the Usa wanted for decades to topple Assad and when the war started Saudia pumped billions to the rebels via Usa blessings, Turkey then also joined in to support their Muslim Brotherhood allies and Turk allies. I don't support the Syrian war but it happened and every nation now is working towards getting a piece of the cake. Usa/Israel/Uae supporting the Kurds, Turkey supporting SNA and MB types, Saudia Usa and others supporting Jolani, they removed all sanctions. Saudi is now working overtime to promote their religious ideology to Syria.

Overall Syria is in Usa EU Saudia camp, but Israel has its own plan, they want kurdish state which will be pro Israel. Turkey is 20% player in Syria via MB and Turk allies but not the biggest player. Usa Saudia take the lead via Jolani and wahabi allies.