Iranian Messaging and Terminology Clearinghouse

[jauk]

This thread serves as a counter/correction/discouragement to improper usage of terminology often designed to discount Iran, Iranians, and the IRI and allies. Consistent messaging is as effective and a great military or economy:

Recommended/Correct Terms	Discouraged Terms
Iranian Technology	Homemade
Iranian Government/Government Of the Islamic Republic Of Iran	Iranian 'regime'
(Counter) Strike	(Counter) Attack
Special Forces	Commandos
The (Axis of) Resistance	Iranian Proxies
Troops	Fighters
Retaliation	Revenge

 

[jauk]

Recommended/Correct Terms	Discouraged Terms
Iranian Technology	Homemade
Iranian Government/Government Of the Islamic Republic Of Iran	Iranian 'regime'
(Counter) Strike	(Counter) Attack
Special Forces	Commandos
The (Axis of) Resistance	Iranian Proxies
Troops	Fighters/Soldiers
Retaliation	Revenge
West Asia	Middle East

 

[jauk]

There's terribly more to do. Eg the latest joke by Zionia on Iran 'in Isfahan' where different news outlets are quoting different Iranian officials saying NOT EXACTLY the same thing--again obviously no single messaging 'clearinghouse'--going on 40+ years now. But overall, I agree Iran has upped its messaging game:

 

[maverick]

 

[jauk]

Recommended/Correct Terms	Discouraged Terms
Iranian Technology	Homemade
Iranian Government/Government Of the Islamic Republic Of Iran	Iranian 'regime'
(Counter) Strike	(Counter) Attack
Special Forces	Commandos
The (Axis of) Resistance	Iranian Proxies
Troops	Fighters/Soldiers
Retaliation	Revenge
West Asia	Middle East
Zionist/Temporary Regime/Zionia	'Israel'
Zionist	Jew/Yahoodi/Jahood

 

[jauk]

Recommended/Correct Terms	Discouraged Terms
Iranian Technology	Homemade
Iranian Government/Government Of the Islamic Republic Of Iran	Iranian 'regime'
(Counter) Strike	(Counter) Attack
Special Forces	Commandos
The (Axis of) Resistance	Iranian Proxies
Troops	Fighters/Soldiers
Retaliation	Revenge
West Asia	Middle East
Zionist/Temporary Regime/Zionia	'Israel'
Zionist	Jew/Yahoodi/Jahood
Ansarullah	Houthis

 

[Persian Gulf]

Persian Gulf / PGCC -- Gulf / GCC

 

[wudangmaster]

Nice shot IRIAF Tiger taken last year.

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I was actually thinking about you earlier today and a question I was curious about. Do Egyptians pronounce the "G" sound? I have Heard the names Gamal and Nageeb pronounced differently than from other Arabs who would use a "J" sound instead. And if so, do you use the same modified kaaf with 2 slants that Iranians use for "G"?

 

[GoMig-21]

I was actually thinking about you earlier today and a question I was curious about. Do Egyptians pronounce the "G" sound? I have Heard the names Gamal and Nageeb pronounced differently than from other Arabs who would use a "J" sound instead. And if so, do you use the same modified kaaf with 2 slants that Iranians use for "G"?

Yes, we do! The G in almost every instance be it in classical Arabic or even colloquial (which is what we in Egypt speak 98% of the time and is really original to Egypt only) no other Arab country speaks Arabic in the colloquial manner as Egyptians do. We're just weird like that lool.

But yeah, the ج in Egyptian Arabic is pronounced G and not J as is most commonly pronounced in almost every single other Arab country/people. You are correct which makes it interesting and I've been asked that several times.

And I use the same example you did.
In all other Arabic-speaking countries/people,
Gamal is pronounced Jamal.

In Egyptian Arabic Gamal is pronounced Gamal.

The same with our holy day, Friday. In Arabic it's Jumaa and in Egypt it's Gomaa. That's pretty much it.

Nageeb is also another perfect example of the ج pronounced G in Egypt and not J.

It's the same in Farsi, too, right?

 

[Hack-Hook]

Yes, we do! The G in almost every instance be it in classical Arabic or even colloquial (which is what we in Egypt speak 98% of the time and is really original to Egypt only) no other Arab country speaks Arabic in the colloquial manner as Egyptians do. We're just weird like that lool.

But yeah, the ج in Egyptian Arabic is pronounced G and not J as is most commonly pronounced in almost every single other Arab country/people. You are correct which makes it interesting and I've been asked that several times.

And I use the same example you did.
In all other Arabic-speaking countries/people,
Gamal is pronounced Jamal.

In Egyptian Arabic Gamal is pronounced Gamal.

The same with our holy day, Friday. In Arabic it's Jumaa and in Egypt it's Gomaa. That's pretty much it.

Nageeb is also another perfect example of the ج pronounced G in Egypt and not J.

It's the same in Farsi, too, right?

in Persian we have گ that when we want to write in english we use G and pronounce it as how Government is pronounced .

it's said but no all your examples, Nageeb , Gamal, Gumaa and many others are pronounced like J as in Jade , to make it worse we have a ژ that we write in English with J but pronounced like Jules but like french not English people
here you can see the difference

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ah and we have no specific law to write ج as G or J when it come to English we use both and sometimes it make confusion I write my name with J while some of my friends with the name like me write it with G

 

[jauk]

Yes, we do! The G in almost every instance be it in classical Arabic or even colloquial (which is what we in Egypt speak 98% of the time and is really original to Egypt only) no other Arab country speaks Arabic in the colloquial manner as Egyptians do. We're just weird like that lool.

But yeah, the ج in Egyptian Arabic is pronounced G and not J as is most commonly pronounced in almost every single other Arab country/people. You are correct which makes it interesting and I've been asked that several times.

And I use the same example you did.
In all other Arabic-speaking countries/people,
Gamal is pronounced Jamal.

In Egyptian Arabic Gamal is pronounced Gamal.

The same with our holy day, Friday. In Arabic it's Jumaa and in Egypt it's Gomaa. That's pretty much it.

Nageeb is also another perfect example of the ج pronounced G in Egypt and not J.

It's the same in Farsi, too, right?

There are formal letters in classic and modern Persian that do not exist in 'classic' Arabic (seems including Egyptian Arabic): گ ('g'oat), چ ('ch'ina), پ ('p'eter), and the most fascinating one ژ ('J'e ne sais pas) which is a soft 'j' and 'z' mixed. Iranians call refer to them as 'gachpazh':’گچپژ’

 

[Corax]

There's no 'P' sound in Arabic, so they say 'Bakistan' and 'Bepsi'

 

[jauk]

Very interesting speech about how the Persian language is adaptable to new terminology and absorbs them or easily creates equivalents:

 

[jauk]

Recommended/Correct Terms	Discouraged Terms
Persian Gulf	Gulf
Arvand-rood	Shatt-al-arab
Iranian Technology	Homemade
Iranian Government/Government Of the Islamic Republic Of Iran	Iranian 'regime'
(Counter) Strike	(Counter) Attack
Special Forces	Commandos
The (Axis of) Resistance	Iranian Proxies
Troops	Fighters/Soldiers
Retaliation	Revenge
West Asia	Middle East
Zionist/Temporary Regime/Zionia	'Israel'
Zionist	Jew/Yahoodi/Jahood
Ansarullah	Houthis
PGCC	GCC