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Agreed. But moreover, the Talaiyeh/Abu Mahdi has a small radar antenna and that gives a very limited radar horizon. Even if it is flying at 4 km of altitude, the range will never be 1.000 km, so that means that you must launch the missiles in an area with not radar coverage and wait the own missile can scan, search, discriminate and lock a target. And that requires autonomous capability of some sort of AI.
 
MoD Spokesman: MoD/IRIN/IRGC-N to jointly produce 6,000 ton+ destroyers

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Really they will cooperate building a warship?. That could be the starting point of a much more reasonable and efficient military funding. It is difficult to undertsand some project the Artesh cannot have access. Happy to read that.
 
One warship is not enough. It must be a group of surface and submersible fleet. What can one ship do?

Iran can send much more stronger fleet instead of 1 old warship.

Soleimani class should be a permanent member of every fleet because of its close range air defense capability.

Alborz in red sea will be a sitting duck.
 
One warship is not enough. It must be a group of surface and submersible fleet. What can one ship do?

Iran can send much more stronger fleet instead of 1 old warship.

Soleimani class should be a permanent member of every fleet because of its close range air defense capability.

Alborz in red sea will be a sitting duck.
We need a reality check about the status of Iran's navy, none of the Mowj class ships are in a respectable final position or really able to defend themselves. Shahid Soleimani class are more promising but I am not convinced they are in full operational status either (one IRGC general says they are equipped with new Qadr-474 2000km cruise missiles, another says they have medium range air-defence missiles, but we don't see evidence of any of this), but even if they are they exist in tiny numbers (1-2?).

Deylaman still doesn't have its radars installed, and don't even ask about VLS.

As for submarines, there is radio silence except for rare news about plans to construct much larger submarines, which we can take with a very large pinch of salt.

Ideally:
- Fully equipped Mowj-class vessel in Deylaman standard (with radars actually installed and with VLS) should become standard for Mowj-class, end the constant iterations of nonsense creating a Frankenstein collection of impotent and half-completed ships
- Mass production of Shahed Soleimani ships with tests for Sayyad-3 and Qadr-474 missiles
- Mass production of Fateh-4 submarine with AIP (Fateh-2 and 3 claimed to be in production but also lack AIP)

Logistical / command ships are in better shape, despite recent sinkings/accidents.

Then you can start putting together a respectable fleet that can travel within the immediate region and actually mean something. But sadly this does not exist yet.
 
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Iran deploys warship to Red Sea amid soaring tensions​

Alborz warship enters Bab al-Mandeb Strait, Iranian media reports a day after Yemen’s Houthis say 10 fighters killed.
Iran’s Alborz warship has entered the Red Sea through the strategic Bab al-Mandeb Strait, Iran’s Tasnim news agency has reported, at a time of heightened tensions over the globally important waterway.


“The Alborz destroyer entered the Red Sea … by passing through the Bab al-Mandeb” waterway at the southern tip of the Red Sea, connecting with the Gulf of Aden in the Indian Ocean, the news agency said on Monday.

this is Alborz
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I think since 2015 Iran Deal, all Iran vs USA "fights" are pretended, including Soleimani killing, and of course, including this Iranian warship deployment to Red Sea.

USA empire nature is the treason.

GCC has reasons to worry. They suck a lot of resources in a world where resources are each time more expensive and in less amount.

USA is a beast, it has no personal preferences. They just want to destroy internal oil demand destroying countries, like they already did in Iraq and Lybia, that's the future of GCC.

USA is the true devil of Abrahamic prophecies about end of times. The Babylon of Christianity, the Dajal of Islam. The most liar empire in mankind history.
 
I think since 2015 Iran Deal, all Iran vs USA "fights" are pretended, including Soleimani killing, and of course, including this Iranian warship deployment to Red Sea.

USA empire nature is the treason.

GCC has reasons to worry. They suck a lot of resources in a world where resources are each time more expensive and in less amount.

USA is a beast, it has no personal preferences. They just want to destroy internal oil demand destroying countries, like they already did in Iraq and Lybia, that's the future of GCC.

USA is the true devil of Abrahamic prophecies about end of times. The Babylon of Christianity, the Dajal of Islam. The most liar empire in mankind history.
Please keep to thread topic (Iran Navy), there are other threads to discuss wider political issues. Thanks
 
another merchant ship is modified to perform the duties of a support ship - mothership.
The ship is smaller in size than the Makran 441, but uses the same helipad layout, with the difference (see red circle) that this hole can be used to create an elevator, allowing any helicopters or drones to be delivered to the hangar built underneath.
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Translation: Among the weapons, silos and 30mm cannon have been installed. The main problem is the lack of installation of ship's radar.

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One warship is not enough. It must be a group of surface and submersible fleet. What can one ship do?

Iran can send much more stronger fleet instead of 1 old warship.

Soleimani class should be a permanent member of every fleet because of its close range air defense capability.

Alborz in red sea will be a sitting duck.
You don't understand the purpose of this warship. If carried through with its real intent it's a brilliant move.

The warship is a tripwire.
 
We need a reality check about the status of Iran's navy, none of the Mowj class ships are in a respectable final position or really able to defend themselves. Shahid Soleimani class are more promising but I am not convinced they are in full operational status either (one IRGC general says they are equipped with new Qadr-474 2000km cruise missiles, another says they have medium range air-defence missiles, but we don't see evidence of any of this), but even if they are they exist in tiny numbers (1-2?).

Deylaman still doesn't have its radars installed, and don't even ask about VLS.

As for submarines, there is radio silence except for rare news about plans to construct much larger submarines, which we can take with a very large pinch of salt.

Ideally:
- Fully equipped Mowj-class vessel in Deylaman standard (with radars actually installed and with VLS) should become standard for Mowj-class, end the constant iterations of nonsense creating a Frankenstein collection of impotent and half-completed ships
- Mass production of Shahed Soleimani ships with tests for Sayyad-3 and Qadr-474 missiles
- Mass production of Fateh-4 submarine with AIP (Fateh-2 and 3 claimed to be in production but also lack AIP)

Logistical / command ships are in better shape, despite recent sinkings/accidents.

Then you can start putting together a respectable fleet that can travel within the immediate region and actually mean something. But sadly this does not exist yet.
Well said.
You don't understand the purpose of this warship. If carried through with its real intent it's a brilliant move.

The warship is a tripwire.
You are right.

It is something like projecting power in the red sea. Problem is that Shah era warship cannot do damn against aerial attacks. A weak submarine from world war era can take it out easily. Sahand could be a better choice.
 
Please keep to thread topic (Iran Navy), there are other threads to discuss wider political issues. Thanks
Sorry, but there are still few threads in the new forum.

And what is the point in a forum if you can't guess things and only post confirmed news.

It's necessary a thread about USA and Iran conspiracy theories against GCC. But it doesnt exist in this forum yet.

😁
 
Sorry, but there are still few threads in the new forum.

And what is the point in a forum if you can't guess things and only post confirmed news.

It's necessary a thread about USA and Iran conspiracy theories against GCC. But it doesnt exist in this forum yet.

😁
There are many threads in the Iranian section to discuss those things (foreign doctrine policy / strategy and operations / chill thread etc), or you can start a new thread, but it's better if this thread stays on topic about the Iranian Navy. Thank you for understanding
 

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