Iranian President Raisi and Foreign Minister Abdollahian die in helicopter crash in East Azerbaijan

[silicon0000]

Click ‘translate’ on Tweet. Make a minor effort and don’t expect others to digest for you. Plz.

Incorrect. The ‘language of the forum’ is not related to the language of the source. In the case of tweets, just click on translate. Other sources can be translated by a nice translator like Google.

Language is irrelevant these days given these features—especially for those who are genuinely interested and have no issues clicking on ‘translate’.

And Twitter is ban in Pakistan so many people in this forum can not even see twitter post ......... language comes later

 

[jauk]

why should many users have to visit twitter then click on the translate option? it's the OP's job to provide it. 1 person put the translation so that the other 20 don't have to. this should be the norm

Would you like a sugar cube with that tea?

 

[KingQamaR]

It’s pretty negligent to put your president and your foreign secretary on a single helicopter with out tracking.

 

[jauk]

And Twitter is ban in Pakistan so many people in this forum can not even see twitter post ......... language comes later

Well THAT would be a good reason to help translate. I’m only hearing a sense of entitlement though from these members. Nothing about them facing a ban. Making childish demands, however, results in zero.

If they are banned they should mention it and ask for help and why. I’m sure we will jump to help.

 

[Persian Gulf]

why should many users have to visit twitter then click on the translate option? it's the OP's job to provide it. 1 person put the translation so that the other 20 don't have to. this should be the norm

nobody has a job here except to adhere to the rules

no more off topic posts

 

[KingQamaR]

weather conditions in the area are extremely difficult. even with thermal and night vision equipment you are not going to have much luck

Why would anyone be flying helicopters in such a bad weather conditions? How many accidents have to occur for common sense to reign supreme?

 

[Persian Gulf]

location of helicopter still not identified, but new potential location identified

 

[Persian Gulf]

Why would anyone be flying helicopters in such a bad weather conditions? How many accidents have to occur for common sense to reign supreme?

weather in those areas can change very rapidly and cannot be predicted

 

[Immortals]

weather conditions in the area are extremely difficult

Most of Iranians aviation disasters in last 40 years involved bad weather and mountains.

Why would you send your President over such terrain? Why not just board a small jet?

Basic security protocols. Also I don’t know in what universe, your president goes down and the entourage just flies away. That would never happen in US/UK/Germany/China/Russia/etc

Lastly, is this the country that wants to fight Israel and US? When they can’t find their own President after 12 hours? When they can’t follow basic security protocol for their head of state?

 

[Immortals]

location of helicopter still not identified, but new potential location identified

Iran is beginning to look like a 3rd world country with this botched search & rescue.

 

[jauk]

Most of Iranians aviation disasters in last 40 years involved bad weather and mountains.

Why would you send your President over such terrain? Why not just board a small jet?

Basic security protocols. Also I don’t know in what universe, your president goes down and the entourage just flies away. That would never happen in US/UK/Germany/China/Russia/etc

Lastly, is this the country that wants to fight Israel and US? When they can’t find their own President after 12 hours? When they can’t follow basic security protocol for their head of state?

?. Wow.

 

[KingQamaR]

weather in those areas can change very rapidly and cannot be predicted

With modern equipment and good pilots yes.

With 50 year old helicopters in thick fog through mountains? Not so much.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Most of Iranians aviation disasters in last 40 years involved bad weather and mountains.

Why would you send your President over such terrain? Why not just board a small jet?

Basic security protocols. Also I don’t know in what universe, your president goes down and the entourage just flies away. That would never happen in US/UK/Germany/China/Russia/etc

Lastly, is this the country that wants to fight Israel and US? When they can’t find their own President after 12 hours? When they can’t follow basic security protocol for their head of state?

he was visiting lots of small towns near the border and a helicopter was more appropriate for that

the other helicopters flying away without him is very strange. apparently communication was lost but that's not a reason to fly away!

in fairness the terrain and conditions make it difficult for anyone to locate the crash. the real issue is all the conflicting fake news reports

 

[ResurgentIran2]

I think there is a 98 percent chance the president and rest of passengers have died.
Even if there was no explosion and the landing was "hard landing" rather than a crash, doesnt take away from the fact it was in very rough mountainous terrain.
And lets assume they survived initial crash/landing, the timing is against them. If they sustained a moderate to severe injury (which is highly likely), without access to healthcare coupled with the fact that all this time has already passed, there is no hope for them.

 

[Dalit]

weather in those areas can change very rapidly and cannot be predicted

It reminds me of many mountainous regions in Pakistan. There is a place called Lowari Pass: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowari_Pass

The weather changes in a heartbeat. Many accidents have happened because of bad visibility and bad weather.