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[Persian Gulf]

we still haven't caught up to this (or even close) after 13 years

what a huge loss

 

[ParthianLord]

we still haven't caught up to this (or even close) after 13 years

what a huge loss

we know why

 

[Persian Gulf]

we know why



once IRGC takes over, it will change. They wont be scared like the clerics of the Globalists. (or influenced by the Globalists)

no that's not the reason

the entire team working on heavy SLV / ICBM is killed and suddenly that coincides with Khamenei telling IRGC not to build long range missiles anyway ? that 2000km policy was first mentioned in 2015, many years after 2011

Occam's razor is useful here

 

[Mehdipersian]

no that's not the reason

the entire team working on heavy SLV / ICBM is killed and suddenly that coincides with Khamenei telling IRGC not to build long range missiles anyway ? that 2000km policy was first mentioned in 2015, many years after 2011

Occam's razor is useful here

Who says entire team killed?
Iran have many scientists and engineers

 

[Immortals]

Who says entire team killed?
Iran have many scientists and engineers

The entire team working on Ghaem was killed alongside Tehrani Moghaddam. Some former members of his team quit in the months and years before his death due to saftey concerns on due to ad hoc safety regulations were taken.

The program was then handed over to the Sharud team and others.

So yes Iran has multiple BM engineering teams. But the one pushing the envelope and the one who had the SL ear was Tehrani’s Team.

After his death there was a focus on improving accuracy which was the right decision because Iranian missiles were not very accurate overall in 2011. They certainly were not PINPOINT a precision. And even today there is some accuracy issues, so imagine what they were 15 years ago.

 

[Immortals]

we still haven't caught up to this (or even close) after 13 years

what a huge loss

Debatable. The Shahrud team is showing off massive engine test stands. They are much more professional and structured vs the Tehrani Moghdam team. There is likely several long range BM projects, but they are not shown off and not progressing at breakneck speed. However, based on scorch marks when they do conduct engine tests points to an active program.

 

[Khorasan Black banners]

Middle East’s Biggest Space Center Under Construction in Iran

June, 06, 2024 - 12:35 Space/Science news

TEHRAN – Iran is constructing the largest space center of the Middle East in its southeastern port city of Chabahar, Minister of Communications and Information Technology (ICT) Issa Zarepoor said.

During a visit to Sistan and Balouchestan Province on Thursday, the ICT minister said the Chabahar Space Center, currently under construction, will become the largest space center in the Middle East.

The first phase of the center, 56% of which has been completed, will come into operation in early February 2025, he said.

Zarepoor also unveiled plans for the first launch from the new base in the current Persian year, which will end on March 20, 2025.

The space facility, planned to cater to Iranian satellite launches, will also promote the country’s cooperation with international partners and increase its revenue.

Iran's pursuit of space exploration and its associated advantages has prompted the nation to take significant strides in satellite technology.

The Imam Khomeini National Space Center, Iran's inaugural fixed launch site, has played a pivotal role in the country's space endeavors since its inauguration in 2017. This facility encompasses all stages of space missions, from satellite preparation to launch, control, and guidance.

Situated in the northern province of Semnan, the Imam Khomeini National Space Center effectively fulfills Iran's requirements in Low Earth Orbit (LEO) during its final phase.

The Chabahar Space Center is explicitly designated as a non-military launch center, intended for live payload launches, as well as the deployment of Earth observation and communication satellites into geosynchronous orbit. These operations necessitate specific conditions, ideally close to the equatorial region, to minimize launch costs and orbital adjustments.

The Chabahar Space Center is poised to unlock new possibilities in the realm of space exploration, enhancing both Iranian capabilities and international collaboration.

Source:

Chabahar Space Center Offers Promising Opportunities for Space Launches in Region - Space/Science news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Chabahar Space Center in southeast Iran, slated to complete its first phase by 2024, boasts unique features that position it as an ideal regional site for space launches.

www.tasnimnews.com

 

[Immortals]

we still haven't caught up to this (or even close) after 13 years

what a huge loss

Tehrani next project was also building a SLV that was able to carry 7 tons to LEO.

Iran isn’t anywhere close to such a project in the IRGC realm.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Tehrani next project was also building a SLV that was able to carry 7 tons to LEO.

Iran isn’t anywhere close to such a project in the IRGC realm.

the static test of the third stage of project Ghaem from c. 2010 is larger than even the Raafe that was only revealed and put into use a few years ago

 

[Immortals]

the static test of the third stage of project Ghaem from c. 2010 is larger than even the Raafe that was only revealed and put into use a few years ago

IRGC like any organization has competing view points. Losing Tehrani meant a huge power vacuum opened up. Tehrani commanded a ton of respect and like Solemani had his own direct line to SL. He could do whatever he wanted in many ways being the father of Iran’s missile program and the results he delivered.

Whichever faction is now in charge:

A) doesn’t see huge value in space for military

B) doesn’t see value in airforce after their was supposed to be a CAS IRGC jet developed based on experiences learned in Syrian war

C) doesn’t see value in missiles with range outside of Middle East

D) Not pursuing hypersonics as fast as it’s rivals and other countries (Nk, China, Russia, etc)

E) Lagging in cruise missiles tech

F) more focused on cost/quantity approach versus quality approach ie the Soviet Doctrine

 

[jauk]

IRGC like any organization has competing view points. Losing Tehrani meant a huge power vacuum opened up. Tehrani commanded a ton of respect and like Solemani had his own direct line to SL. He could do whatever he wanted in many ways being the father of Iran’s missile program and the results he delivered.

Whichever faction is now in charge:

A) doesn’t see huge value in space for military

B) doesn’t see value in airforce after their was supposed to be a CAS IRGC jet developed based on experiences learned in Syrian war

C) doesn’t see value in missiles with range outside of Middle East

D) Not pursuing hypersonics as fast as it’s rivals and other countries (Nk, China, Russia, etc)

E) Lagging in cruise missiles tech

F) more focused on cost/quantity approach versus quality approach ie the Soviet Doctrine

Manifestly incorrect. IRGC is super progressive. Ergo, CORRECTLY, seeing no use for a CONVENTIONAL airforce. The rest of your points are made up and are devoid of even an elementary understanding of the IRGC.

 

[Persian Gulf]

IRGC like any organization has competing view points. Losing Tehrani meant a huge power vacuum opened up. Tehrani commanded a ton of respect and like Solemani had his own direct line to SL. He could do whatever he wanted in many ways being the father of Iran’s missile program and the results he delivered.

or Moghaddam's team were special and losing them meant we lost a lot of knowledge so we pivoted to accuracy over range until we could gradually catch up with that capability

A) doesn’t see huge value in space for military

IRGC started their space program in 2020 and has made good progress since then and plan to launch Qaem-105A SLV (with 120kg capacity to LEO) this year, with plans for Qaem-105B, Qaem-110 and Qaem-120 to follow in the coming years

that is a very serious program that shows they do place huge value in space

B) doesn’t see value in airforce after their was supposed to be a CAS IRGC jet developed based on experiences learned in Syrian war

they have some SU-22 jets, but they can't build an entire new fighter jet. they should focus on ALBMs, could be launched over Iraq and shouldn't be too hard to convert/modify existing missiles for that purpose

C) doesn’t see value in missiles with range outside of Middle East

debatable the extent to which that is their decision vs imposed by Khamenei. and recently a general said Iran's reach should extend to 5000km, which indicates a shift so perhaps we can expect to see 5000km range BMs soon (i.e. Qaem-105)

 

[Flotilla]

they have some SU-22 jets, but they can't build an entire new fighter jet. they should focus on ALBMs, could be launched over Iraq and shouldn't be too hard to convert/modify existing missiles for that purpose

Agreed.
While I can´t talk about space issues because simply I don´t have any idea. IRGC Air Force have excellent Su22. All the fleet was overhauled and modernized and all of them are capable of launching various PGM. They only need a new platform that could be very well Yassin (2 engine aircraft with simple radar and 2 tons of weapons... but who knows.
Anyway they have a small fleet of capable CAS aircraft.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Agreed.
While I can´t talk about space issues because simply I don´t have any idea. IRGC Air Force have excellent Su22. All the fleet was overhauled and modernized and all of them are capable of launching various PGM. They only need a new platform that could be very well Yassin (2 engine aircraft with simple radar and 2 tons of weapons... but who knows.
Anyway they have a small fleet of capable CAS aircraft.

they better use kowsar , at least it has 7 hard point instead of 3 on yasin , it has a radar , and it can carry up to 3200kg instead of around 1200 on yasin
the only advantage yasin have is the separated engine and probably more suitable for lower speeds