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How do you know that? How much did we get paid? Was it worth all the drama we have had with Europe since then?
I do not since it hasn't been disclosed but it was/is a business transaction between Iran and Russia. Apparently Iran thought it was worth whatever they're getting in return from Russia. What has Europe done for Iran, in a business sense since the signing of the JCPOA, that might have incentivized Iran from refraining from doing arms deals with Russia?
 
I do not since it hasn't been disclosed but it was/is a business transaction between Iran and Russia. Apparently Iran thought it was worth whatever they're getting in return from Russia. What has Europe done for Iran, in a business sense since the signing of the JCPOA, that might have incentivized Iran from refraining from doing arms deals with Russia?
I agree. The question was, why not?. EU is not buying oil, gas or manufactures from Iran. In fact they fullfullied the US sanctions just not trading with IRI. One should be mature, and if EU doesn't let Irán to trade with basic commodities with western countries, they shouldn't be surprised in of other actors buy iranian weapons. In fact they helped to create this situation.
 
In case you haven't noticed it yet........Europe sucks!

Its a monkey outfit no?

Theys ain't got jack shit to offer Iran other than tourism trade no?

What in the hell would Iran import from the EU? of value?
And Russia doesn't suck? Russia is Iran's best buddy, right?
We continue to import pharmaceuticals and medical equipment from Europe, just as an example.
More importantly, we have millions of Iranians that live in Europe and have business/family ties with Europe. Now they can no longer use Iranian airlines to go to Europe and their cost of travel has become much higher. Also, we are filling the pockets of Turkish airlines and Emirati airlines, but then again you guys probably think Turkey and Emirates don't suck either.

I do not since it hasn't been disclosed but it was/is a business transaction between Iran and Russia. Apparently Iran thought it was worth whatever they're getting in return from Russia. What has Europe done for Iran, in a business sense since the signing of the JCPOA, that might have incentivized Iran from refraining from doing arms deals with Russia?
Well, then if you don't know, it's better not to assume something without evidence.
The whole purpose of this deal was for Iran and Russia to trade military technology. Iran has transferred the technology of Shahed-136 drones to Russia but I do not see anything that Russia has done for Iran in return since then. It hasn't been even one week since Russia said that it had no obligation to help Iran in case of war with the US. They also helped Turkey overthrow Assad in 11 days. If there is something they have done for Iran in return, please provide evidence.
 
And Russia doesn't suck? Russia is Iran's best buddy, right?
We continue to import pharmaceuticals and medical equipment from Europe, just as an example.
More importantly, we have millions of Iranians that live in Europe and have business/family ties with Europe. Now they can no longer use Iranian airlines to go to Europe and their cost of travel has become much higher. Also, we are filling the pockets of Turkish airlines and Emirati airlines, but then again you guys probably think Turkey and Emirates don't suck either.


Well, then if you don't know, it's better not to assume something without evidence.
The whole purpose of this deal was for Iran and Russia to trade military technology. Iran has transferred the technology of Shahed-136 drones to Russia but I do not see anything that Russia has done for Iran in return since then. If there is, please provide evidence.
You can import all that from China for half price. Anything you can imagine.

I’ll say it again for you……..EU is a monkey outfit.
 
You can import all that from China for half price. Anything you can imagine.

I’ll say it again for you……..EU is a monkey outfit.
No, we can't. First of all, Chinese major companies do not trade with Iran directly because of US secondary sanctions. Secondly, Europe continue to remain a major provider of high quality pharmaceuticals and medical equipment in the world.

Iranians are not Pakistanis that want low quality Chinese stuff. If anything, I'd rather completely stop our trade with China and Russia and completely focus on the US and in other cases Europe. China and Russia have milked Iran enough.
 
No, we can't. First of all, Chinese major companies do not trade with Iran directly because of US secondary sanctions. Secondly, Europe continue to remain a major provider of high quality pharmaceuticals and medical equipment in the world.

Iranians are not Pakistanis that want low quality Chinese stuff. If anything, I'd rather completely stop our trade with China and Russia and completely focus on the US and in other cases Europe. China and Russia have milked Iran enough.
poor attempt at a low blow. if you're concerned about low quality Chinese goods, get your money up and buy the good stuff.

I loved my DJI drones, my Huawei Laptop, my China built iPhone, the Chinese built CATL Cells in my soon to come Macan EV...what Chinese stuff are you buying? Paying a few euros and complaining it breaks? as i said, go buy the good stuff...
 
Technically speaking, world still has no answer to the "Shahed Problem". Its turning out to be one of the wonder weapons of the this decade.
Technically speaking, how many shaheds were able to hit inside Israel?
 
If anything, I'd rather completely stop our trade with China and Russia and completely focus on the US and in other cases Europe. China and Russia have milked Iran enough.
Iranians would be the only people on Earth arguing that we should once again switch sides to the losing side when the entire planet is increasing trade with China, European economies are in recession due to an energy crisis, and America is isolating itself from global trade. Amazing strategy. Europe and America don't make anything but weapons.
 
Technically speaking, how many shaheds were able to hit inside Israel?
Russia fires 6000 Shahed-136 drones Per month into neighbouring Ukraine

Iran fired c. 100 drones that had to fly slowly across Iraq, Syria and Jordan and the Western Avengers (USA, UK, France) assembled to fly in those airspaces for hours to shoot down the drones before they could reach Israel. that defensive operation alone cost them a billion dollars vs $1-2 million for Iran for the drones.

the drones were also fired to prevent pre-emptive strikes by IAF on Iranian missiles bases
 
Russia fires 6000 Shahed-136 drones Per month into neighbouring Ukraine

Iran fired c. 100 drones that had to fly slowly across Iraq, Syria and Jordan and the Western Avengers (USA, UK, France) assembled to fly in those airspaces for hours to shoot down the drones before they could reach Israel. that defensive operation alone cost them a billion dollars vs $1-2 million for Iran for the drones.

the drones were also fired to prevent pre-emptive strikes by IAF on Iranian missiles bases
Russia fired 6000 Shaheds to destroy the civilian infrastructure b/c they know Ukraine can't fire back in kind

In true military to military confrontation,Shaheed has been useless while Lancet & similar LMs in Ukrainian hands have been much more effective.

Iranian Fired cruise missiles & Drones had significant launch signature.Israel was not only able to detect & track them but also engaged them so effectively that not even a single one out of 200+ Shaheeds & cruise missiles was able to get its target.
 
I agree. The question was, why not?. EU is not buying oil, gas or manufactures from Iran. In fact they fullfullied the US sanctions just not trading with IRI. One should be mature, and if EU doesn't let Irán to trade with basic commodities with western countries, they shouldn't be surprised in of other actors buy iranian weapons. In fact they helped to create this situation.
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Well, then if you don't know, it's better not to assume something without evidence.
The whole purpose of this deal was for Iran and Russia to trade military technology. Iran has transferred the technology of Shahed-136 drones to Russia but I do not see anything that Russia has done for Iran in return since then. It hasn't been even one week since Russia said that it had no obligation to help Iran in case of war with the US. They also helped Turkey overthrow Assad in 11 days. If there is something they have done for Iran in return, please provide evidence.
You missed the point of what I was answering to when you chose to refer to me. I, like the rest of us, do not know the details of the transaction but we are all well aware of the transaction itself. You yourself refer to it when you stated "The whole purpose of this DEAL was for Iran and Russia to TRADE military technology."
We were discussing what sort of payment is involved, whether it be financial, technical or barter of some sort.
Once you understand what I am alluding to then you will know that I'm not assuming anything. I just stated what we all agree on as fact. Whether Iran has received anything in return yet is redundant to what I am and was stating. My statement stands. It is a business transaction.
 
Russia fired 6000 Shaheds to destroy the civilian infrastructure b/c they know Ukraine can't fire back in kind

In true military to military confrontation,Shaheed has been useless while Lancet & similar LMs in Ukrainian hands have been much more effective.

Iranian Fired cruise missiles & Drones had significant launch signature.Israel was not only able to detect & track them but also engaged them so effectively that not even a single one out of 200+ Shaheeds & cruise missiles was able to get its target.
What do you know of airborne radars? Please don't make a fool of yourself in this thread. Ukraine doesn't have 1,500 Km distance from Russian borders and technically Ukraine lacks a proper airforce.
 
In true military to military confrontation,Shaheed has been useless while Lancet & similar LMs in Ukrainian hands have been much more effective.
You don´t understand the nature of this weapon. Even if all of them are shoot down it is a win for the user (Russia or Iran).

Whatever you launch against them, ...from a single stinger to a Patriot the price of the interceptor always surpass the cost of the drone. You don´t need to kill nobody for winning a war.

Even US called Iran to a deal in Oman not vice-versa. US understand that with some months more, US Navy and USAF will deplete the number of interceptors just in Yemen.
 
poor attempt at a low blow. if you're concerned about low quality Chinese goods, get your money up and buy the good stuff.

I loved my DJI drones, my Huawei Laptop, my China built iPhone, the Chinese built CATL Cells in my soon to come Macan EV...what Chinese stuff are you buying? Paying a few euros and complaining it breaks? as i said, go buy the good stuff...
It wasn't an attempt at anything. It is the truth. If you don't like the truth, grow up. It's not money that's the problem. It's the sanctions that is the problem.

Your China built iPhone is California-designed. As soon as Apple stops to license China to manufacture them, there will be no China built iPhone anymore. Your Huawei laptop depending on the model and price is most likely inferior to Microsoft's surface or Apple's MacBook of the same range price.

There is hardly anything that China produces for half price that could even remotely compete with the Western products.
 
Iranians would be the only people on Earth arguing that we should once again switch sides to the losing side when the entire planet is increasing trade with China, European economies are in recession due to an energy crisis, and America is isolating itself from global trade. Amazing strategy. Europe and America don't make anything but weapons.
It is only your delusion that makes you think they are the losing side.
The US is still relatively superior to China. And now let's compare their allies:
The US has the UK, France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, India, Saudi Arabia, Canada, Australia, blah blah blah. China has Russia, Iran and North Korea.
Care to explain why the US is the losing side again?

The very internet you are using now is an American product. I mean literally. The US no longer produces anything? lol Is that why Iran hasn't been able to legally procure even a single civilian aircraft after 30 years?

Truth! 🫡

You missed the point of what I was answering to when you chose to refer to me. I, like the rest of us, do not know the details of the transaction but we are all well aware of the transaction itself. You yourself refer to it when you stated "The whole purpose of this DEAL was for Iran and Russia to TRADE military technology."
We were discussing what sort of payment is involved, whether it be financial, technical or barter of some sort.
Once you understand what I am alluding to then you will know that I'm not assuming anything. I just stated what we all agree on as fact. Whether Iran has received anything in return yet is redundant to what I am and was stating. My statement stands. It is a business transaction.
Yes, that's the purpose of it. Has it been achieved? That's the question.
Anyway, we're off-topic now. I think we should shelf this discussion and switch it over to a thread where it is not off-topic. Like the chill thread or something like that.
 

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