Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[StormOfTruth]

The major operations by the Palestinian resistance groups are as follows:

Al-Qassam Brigades' operations on Dec. 16:

• Targeted a building in which Israeli soldiers had holed up in the city of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip, killing at least 15 regime soldiers. There are also reports of a tight ambush.

Al-Quds Brigades' operations on Dec. 16:

• Targeted a command and control center of the Israeli military with a mortar strike in central Jabalia Camp, northern Gaza Strip.
• Targeted a "Merkava" military vehicle with a "Tandem" projectile near Abu Hussein Schools in central Jabalia Camp, northern Gaza Strip.

Al Qassam Brigades' operations on Dec. 17:

• Blew up a booby-trapped house where Israeli soldiers had holed up, killing and wounding them all, in the middle of Jabalia camp, northern Gaza Strip.
• Engaged in fierce clashes with an Israeli infantry force west of Jabalia camp in the northern Gaza Strip, killing at least three of them at point-blank range.
• Targeted and destroyed an Israeli troop carrier with a "Shawaz" explosive device in the middle of Jabalia camp, northern Gaza Strip.

Al-Quds Brigades' operations on Dec. 17:

• Targeted military positions of Israeli forces and blew up military bulldozers in the Tulkarem camp, occupied West Bank.
• Shelled with mortar shells an Israeli military command and control headquarters in the Abu Ariban site on the so-called Netzarim axis.

Martyr Omar Al-Qassem Forces' operations on Dec. 17:

• Targeted a gathering of Israeli forces and military vehicles in the vicinity of the licensing building in the Al-Janina neighborhood, east of Rafah city, southern Gaza Strip, with heavy-caliber mortar shells.
• Targeted Israeli military positions, vehicles, and the management and control room in the south of the Netzarim axis, in the middle of the Gaza Strip, with heavy-caliber mortars and 107mm rockets.
• Targeted Israeli military positions in the vicinity of the Rafah crossing, southern Gaza Strip, with 107mm rockets.

 

[UKBengali]

Lebanon and Hezbollah have paid a heavy price and Iran's image and influence has also taken a big hit. None of them wanted to go to the extreme length to fully involve the (reluctant) Americans where there wouldn't be any 'victors' but certainly tens of millions would have died in the region and much destruction, while Americans could afford to pack up and go home and bury their dead.
That's why the only option was a War of Attrition in the current circumstances and I believe it was going fairly well for the Resistance until just a few weeks ago.

Well we assume three things here.

1. US does not deeply care for the entity as much as if not more than one of its own states. Everyone now knows that the safety and supremacy of the entity probably counts more for the USA than any other one of its allies. Obliteration of the entity but also that of Iran and some other ME countries would be only a phyrric victory for the Zionists, that now are sitting at some of the key decision making/influential positions in the US.

2. US could "afford" to lose all its bases in the ME and so lose its superpower status with such a catastrophic defeat in the most strategic region of the world.

3. Hezbollah and Lebanon could not have retaliated harder and earlier to stop the entity constanting "testing" and escalating with each phase. As an example, Hezbollah could have hit Tel Aviv as soon as the entity thought it could get away with attacking Beirut proper.

 

[Mero]

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My post aged well.

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[Unknowntruth]

Unless you are in your late 60s or over, Palestine may resurrect itself in your lifetimes.

Too many people are overly pessimistic.

Reason Zio-US have almost certainly won this round is that they still have a huge amount of influence in the world but this could easily change in as little as 10 years from now.

Also sometimes you just get “lucky” and there may be an element of hesitation from both Hezbollah and Iran that has cost both dearly.

Entity still cannot massacre all the Palestinians and the majority will still reside in ghettos in Gaza and West Bank.

We should not lose hope but of course things are now going to be dire for Palestine, Hezbollah and Syria.

Once Israel finishes with Palestine and goes after these other Arab countries, I wonder if they are going to keep blaming the Palestinians for everything.

 

[Meengla]

Well we assume three things here.

1. US does not deeply care for the entity as much as if not more than one of its own states. Everyone now knows that the safety and supremacy of the entity probably counts more for the USA than any other one of its allies. Obliteration of the entity but also that of Iran and some other ME countries would be only a phyrric victory for the Zionists, that now are sitting at some of the key decision making/influential positions in the US.
2. US could "afford" to lose all its bases in the ME and so lose its superpower status with such a catastrophic defeat in the most strategic region of the world.
3. Hezbollah and Lebanon could not have retaliated harder and earlier to stop the entity constanting "testing" and escalating with each phase. As an example, Hezbollah could have hit Tel Aviv as soon as the entity thought it could get away with attacking Beirut proper.

Bottomline is that America was willing to escalate to the point of massive destruction in the Middle East while Iran wasn't. Once you understand that--really understand that--then the actions of Iran and Hezbollah are not hard to understand. We don't even need 'could have been, should have been, would have been' explanations.

@Meengla I am not sure if you are familiar with Alon Mizrahi but he is a really interesting guy. I have had long discussions with him on social media and learned a lot about Israeli society from him.

It doesn't matter how to interpret ethnic compositions / origin of Israeli Jews: They think like Zionists for the most part and that's the only think that matters. I have avoided such debates.

 

[UKBengali]

Bottomline is that America was willing to escalate to the point of massive destruction in the Middle East while Iran wasn't. Once you understand that--really understand that--then the actions of Iran and Hezbollah are not hard to understand. We don't even need 'could have been, should have been, would have been' explanations.

There is no "bottom line" but just your opinion with no evidence or any other logic presented.

There is no 'could have been, should have been, would have been' explanations as plenty of us said that the path they followed was a losing game. There is no hindsight here but what we have been saying from the very start.

It was always understood that Hezbollah ability to decisively defeat the entity was its ability to deter large scale bombing of Lebanon. The fact that they failed to do this earlier and only targeted Tel Aviv in the last days of their fight with the entity shows why lagging in a proportionate response did not help them.

 

[_Arabia_]

It doesn't matter how to interpret ethnic compositions / origin of Israeli Jews: They think like Zionists for the most part and that's the only think that matters. I have avoided such debates.

I disagree. I think this schizophrenic behavior and indoctrination is the crux of the problem. Otherwise why would Jewish Arabs, whom we have lived with side by side since forever, turn hostile out of a sudden? Why import European problems (Jewish-European relations) into a region for whom it was all foreign and export their identity/worldview into the region as well?

I think that Alon Mizrahi tells it very accurately.

Also it is an important part of the conflict that is almost never told (deliberately).

 

[Meengla]

There is no "bottom line" but just your opinion with no evidence or any other logic presented.

There is no 'could have been, should have been, would have been' explanations as plenty of us said that the path they followed was a losing game. There is no hindsight here but what we have been saying from the very start.

It was always understood that Hezbollah ability to decisively defeat the entity was its ability to deter large scale bombing of Lebanon. The fact that they failed to do this earlier and only targeted Tel Aviv in the last days of their fight with the entity shows why lagging in a proportionate response did not help them.

You are speculating just like me and the rest of us here. I stand by my opinion based on the evidence from the last one year+ Except for this forum, I have not seen one credible analyst who said Hezbollah should have launched a full fledged war because every analyst knew that that would involve the reluctant Americans in most direct ways. The best credible analyst is Matthew Hoh who said months ago something like 'Don't change anything. Continue the War of Attrition' to destroy Israeli economy, morale and cause emigration.
But I guess we will never know who would be right, right?!
Peace!

 

[Meengla]

I disagree. I think this schizophrenic behavior and indoctrination is the crux of the problem. Otherwise why would Jewish Arabs, whom we have lived with side by side since forever, turn hostile out of a sudden? Why import European problems (Jewish-European relations) into a region for whom it was all foreign and export their identity/worldview into the region as well?

I think that Alon Mizrahi tells it very accurately.

Then blame schizophrenia for the reality facing there!

 

[_Arabia_]

Then blame schizophrenia for the reality facing there!

You are mixing both things here now. Both can be true at the same time. It is just a further proof of the schizophrenic contradictions of Israel itself and its creation.

It actually fits very well with their history and overall behavior if you ask me.

Because a sane society with that same societal makeup would not behave in that manner.

Which is why they are the only such example you can think of out there.

I don't think that it is a coincidence.

 

[UKBengali]

You are speculating just like me and the rest of us here. I stand by my opinion based on the evidence from the last one year+ Except for this forum, I have not seen one credible analyst who said Hezbollah should have launched a full fledged war because every analyst knew that that would involve the reluctant Americans in most direct ways. The best credible analyst is Matthew Hoh who said months ago something like 'Don't change anything. Continue the War of Attrition' to destroy Israeli economy, morale and cause emigration.
But I guess we will never know who would be right, right?!
Peace!

Analysts are analysts and they cannot predict or know with certainty.

You may think they have a "crystal ball" but most are like every informed layman. They may be right or they may be wrong.

I just listen to their viewpoints but that is just to glean information and then to form my own opinion based on this.

Also I have no idea why you think it must be just the passive actions of the resistance or all out war. There was an inbetween where the resistance would retaliate more forcefully as the entity escalated.

The entity was "testing" the resistance and since they did not respond proportionately, then of course the attacks got more bold and devastating.

I had a very bad feeling when Hezbollah was not responding with their rocket arsenal when the entity started large scale bombing of even Beirut in late September. They had the rockets to send half of the entity into shelters but waited till end of October to use this capability.

In the end large parts of Southern Lebanon and Beirut got flattened and Hezbollah did not even attempt to do the same to the entity.

If you are going to challenge Zio-US, you are either all in or all out. Half way house is the worst option to take.

 

[Meengla]

You are mixing both things here now. Both can be true at the same time. It is just a further proof of the schizophrenic contradictions of Israel itself and its creation.

Well, it is a very sick society. I had not thought of them THIS LOW as seen by their 'soldiers' conduct, by the Settlers violence against unarmed Palestinians, by the free-the-rapists rioters, by those who blocked the aid convoys, by those sit on chairs with binoculars and beers to watch the destruction in Gaza.
Very sick!

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Once Israel finishes with Palestine and goes after these other Arab countries, I wonder if they are going to keep blaming the Palestinians for everything.

They took the deal to stay put... mind their business until they become Zions business. So far they enjoy the largesse of zion. A leash that let's them breathe, and shackles that let them walk just enough. They're tied to the pole and their leaders look at zion for their pedestals. Don't let me go or they'll chew you out!
These vicious ones are being tamed by me for your cause master! They're hopeless unlearned beasts master.
Which is why the unearned wealth they accumulate becomes another pawn against them... it is someone else's inflation they carry and assume their own... but they're mere bench warmers!

 

[UKBengali]

Once Israel finishes with Palestine and goes after these other Arab countries, I wonder if they are going to keep blaming the Palestinians for everything.

They are already taking large chunks out of Syria.

All hail freedom and democracy for Syria!

Lebanon is next and the only hope is Hezbollah can hang on and defend Southern Lebanon.

I am sure the "Greater Israel" project also involves large chunks of Egypt, Jordan and KSA.

As all the above 3 are actively involved in assisting the Genocide Of Gaza they fully deserve to lose land to the entity.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Well I blame the United Nations Security Council for not implementing Two State Solution.
One country for the Palestinians and one country for the Zionists.