Jinnah Class Frigate | Updates & Discussion

[Pakistan First]

Dude they are building a frigate based on an already existing design not the Star destroyer, when the JCF first started the development they gave a 25-26 timeline for the completion of design work so project is on track for its slated timeline.

Your reply is against my which point specifically ? I never talk specifically about "design work" of the ship. I gave overall idea for the first to be inducted in PN around 2033. If construction to start today, then its 6 to 7 yrs till completion of all steps and final induction which isn't bad. Ship building is time taking process. Recall we built last Azmat FAC in around 5 to 6 yrs. That was a mere 600 ton ship.

 

[Toxic]

Your reply is against my which point specifically ? I never talk specifically about "design work" of the ship. I gave overall idea for the first to be inducted in PN around 2033. If construction to start today, then its 6 to 7 yrs till completion of all steps and final induction which isn't bad. Ship building is time taking process. Recall we built last Azmat FAC in around 5 to 6 yrs. That was a mere 600 ton ship.

The the final Azmat started construction several years after the first one was already inducted, if the JCF starts construction by the end of 2027 it will inducted in 2030 or 31 not 33 PN projects are often delayed but not to such an extent.

 

[rafale]

bad comparison.

FM-90 replacement is alot of work relatively. There is systems below the deck etc too.

HQ-16FE is just missile. It uses the same VLS sys so just a software modification most likely

I think chinese would have designed/evolved HQ16FE missiles/control systems as a migration option for the previous gen HQ16 for their own older vessels as well to minimize waste and cost.

 

[Princeps]

The the final Azmat started construction several years after the first one was already inducted, if the JCF starts construction by the end of 2027 it will inducted in 2030 or 31 not 33 PN projects are often delayed but not to such an extent.

You are being way too optimistic. If we are taking 6 years for Baburs, JCF won't be done in 3. 2032-33 is more realistic.

 

[Ak01]

You are being way too optimistic. If we are taking 6 years for Baburs, JCF won't be done in 3. 2032-33 is more realistic.

babur will always have taken longer. It had alot of variations in design. I suspect the JCF hull will be nearly identical to babur's.

Also, at the time, PN was having financial issues and had to delay acceptance

 

[Toxic]

You are being way too optimistic. If we are taking 6 years for Baburs, JCF won't be done in 3. 2032-33 is more realistic.

Babur is more of a money issue, there are just so many projects PN is stretched extremely thin, by 2030 most of these projects would be completed or near completion, most of Hangors would have been inducted, the baburs too, several sea sultan which should open up money for the JCF.

 

[studsmart]

i would give JCF max 5 years to be inducted to PN - around 2030Q2/Q3, consider it started in Q3 2025. This is based on babur class lead time. There is a lot of learning PN had to do much of the design, however, it is from Babur that makes it simple and easy to manufacture.

 

[Ak01]

also, note, babur went through MANY config changes.

Remember, it was meant to be a HQ-16 equipped ship to start.

 

[Toxic]

also, note, babur went through MANY config changes.

Remember, it was meant to be a HQ-16 equipped ship to start.

Imagine if it was a 12 cell HQ-16 equipped ship... (Or 16 cell in its original config)

 

[studsmart]

based on OSINT, JCF will be 16 - 24 cell Anti Air VLS, 8 ssm, 2x3 torpedo tubes, ASuW and ASW heli, drones, 76mm main gun, STAMP gun, CIWS etc etc. a decent modern platform but not going to be cutting edge in 2030.

 

[Corax]

babur will always have taken longer. It had alot of variations in design. I suspect the JCF hull will be nearly identical to babur's.

Also, at the time, PN was having financial issues and had to delay acceptance

Begs the question, if the hull is identical, why bother with JCF?

 

[studsmart]

Begs the question, if the hull is identical, why bother with JCF?

Who says it is identical ... JCF is based on Babur class corvette, good 10 meters longer and bigger by 400+ tons. It is a Pakistani design and own.

 

[Yasser76]

Begs the question, if the hull is identical, why bother with JCF?

It is not identical, JCF is 300 tons heavier and around 12m longer.