Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[RocketLaw]

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Since the 1980s, #Pakistan has warned all friendly and brotherly countries that #India would infiltrate Arab and Islamic countries solely for the benefit of #Israel, just to obtain technology that would make it superior to Pakistan, but those countries paid no heed to that, so whoever discovers them will find that the time has already passed.

You won't find an Indian officer in front of you? Rather, you'll find a cleaning worker who lurks, a doctor who feigns kindness, and a peaceful driver, but in reality, they are like cameras that transmit a three-dimensional image from the inside.

 

[Desert]

Of Saudi Arabian ancestry, hence his citizenship.

Absurd to focus on this detail in a long post that covered all the other topics. Are you going to deny that Saudi Arabian students just won gold medals (number 1 ranking) in the nuclear olympiad as well? Or that Saudi Arabian universities are the best ranked in the Arab and Muslim world? Or that KSA has literacy rates close to 100%? Or that our women are some of the most educated in the world with STEM graduates making up almost 80%? Or all of the remaining facts that I wrote?

Usual KSA/Arab obsession, carry on.


Makes zero sense. Historically Turkiye and Iran have been rivals - much like Arabs and Iran. In fact Turkiye (Ottomans) and Iran (Safavids) fought more wars than Arabs and Iran.

It would require a totally different Iranian regime foreign police. For starters the end of negative opportunistic meddling in unstable/war-torn Arab countries (especially those bordering KSA), no support for non-state actors (terrorists and proxies) and once that happens, KSA and Iran can have good neighborly ties. After all Arabs have influenced Iran tremendously on almost every front and there are ancient people to people ties between Arabia and Iran, Eastern Arabia and South Iran (Persian heartland) in particular. Not to mention millions of Iranian Arabs.


What are you even talking about? Egypt has had close to zero ties with Iran since 1979. Egypt is completely against Iranian interference in the Arab world (support of terrorist proxies and non-state actors). Even KSA have had closer ties with Iran since 1979 - despite the rivalry and proxy warfare throughout the decades. Let alone the other GCC states that host the largest Iranian diaspora (many Iranian Arabs) in the region and have the largest trade with it in the region (UAE + others). Oman literary serves as their diplomatic outlet with the West as well.

You barely had even diplomatic ties with Iran until recently, lol. Located far away as well.

Again Omar Yaghi is Palestinian and he has zero ties to Saudis , he was given the Saudi citizenship like others , for example the Egyptian clowns ( Muhammed Henadi and Amr Adib) who were given the Saudi citizenship.

Saudi has zero achievements in Sciene , the only 3 states in middle east that won nobles prizes ( in Science) are Egypt , Turkey and the zionists.

and about our relations with Iran, you can see the reactions of Egyptians on social media when the war broke out.

 

[_Arabia_]

Keep yourself abreast of latest developments , Iran has been completely tamed , she has no capacity or will left to take a dump everywhere.....she is literally begging for our protection , we are not Iranians and we don't kick the ones who are fallen.

The Iranian regime being partially decapitated does not change prior behavior since 1979 or even current statements and support for those very fifth columns, terrorists and proxies. Which cause nothing but misery in the wider region and in those host countries.

Dialogue and reaching out has not worked 100's of times before since 1979, it will not work now when they are even more radicalized to the point that they are willing to kill upwards of 20.000 of their own people (protestors) just in January 2026 alone.

As we say, words are cheap, action is harder. Meaning what I wrote earlier, change your behavior on the ground in the region and once you do that, a hand will be extended to you and you MIGHT be invited, if that is your wish.

Otherwise forget about it. If this news is even remotely accurate, Iran gave assurances to KSA of a regime change in terms of policies in those select few war-torn Arab nations. Nowadays only the Yemeni (Houthi terrorist cult) and Iraqi (fifth columns - according to a law passed by the Iraqi parliament those proxies will have to disband by 30 September 2026) https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...er-30-deadline-for-proiran-militias-to-disarm files matter in this regard.

Otherwise I am not against their inclusion (provided they change said behavior) because KSA (leadership, people etc.) would prefer a stable region which would enable KSA to fully focus on internal growth. Same priority that Turkiye has and other regional powers.

Ideally, EVEN some kind of deal with the Zionists in the region (by every power in the region) that would prevent conflict, would most likely be supported by everyone.

EDIT: Not including a notorious and disliked regional troublemaker in a defense pact as of today, is not kicking "the ones who are fallen", it is common sense until said behavior changes.

"Kicking the ones who are fallen" would be, if all 3 ganged up on Iran - which is not going to happen for 100's of reasons - some already given by officials from all 3 countries. .

 

[_Arabia_]

Again Omar Yaghi is Palestinian and he has zero ties to Saudis , he was given the Saudi citizenship like others , for example the Egyptian clowns ( Muhammed Henadi and Amr Adib) who were given the Saudi citizenship.

Saudi has zero achievements in Sciene , the only 3 states in middle east that won nobles prizes ( in Science) are Egypt , Turkey and the zionists.

and about our relations with Iran, you can see the reactions of Egyptians on social media when the war broke out.

Expect that he has Saudi Arabian ancestry - like literally millions of Palestinians (recent and distant) something that he has publicly admitted to as well.

Are you joking? KSA has a far greater scientific output than Egypt which every statistic confirms. Literacy rates, far better ranked universities, much higher scientific and industrial output on every front, higher numbers of published scientific papers (despite a 3 times smaller population), let alone per capita. There is no contest here at all.

1 person out of 120 million of which 25% cannot even read or write. What do we call that?

Only because Israel and the US is on the other side, not out of some kind of love.

During the Egyptian revolutions - Egyptian Shias (who barely make up 2% of the population) were lynched (killed) by angry mobs in broad daylight (nothing like that has ever happened in KSA or the GCC - we also have many more Shias than Egypt) and Egypt used to host or even does to this day (not sure about that as I never watch Egyptian TV), some of the most anti-Shia religious programs in the Arab world. But you already know all of this but pretend that Egyptians and Egypt (LOL) are some great Iran lovers all due to inferiority complexes/dislike of Arabs (GCC) even though vast majority of Egyptians love KSA more than any other country, lol. You also never answered whether you are a Nubian or Albanian so there is all we need to know.

In fact I am pretty sure you are that Egyptian troll on the old PDF that had an Albanian and Egyptian flag. He was also obsessed about Arab countries in a negative way. Same bullshit was posted by him. What a coincidence that we have 1 Egyptian behaving in the exact same rare way (for an Egyptian) on a small Pakistani forum that never had more than 3-4 active Egyptian users since I know it (10 + years).

 

[mythbuster]

The Iranian regime being partially decapitated does not change prior behavior since 1979 or even current statements and support for those very fifth columns, terrorists and proxies. Which cause nothing but misery in the wider region and in those host countries.

Dialogue and reaching out has not worked 100's of times before since 1979, it will not work now when they are even more radicalized to the point that they are willing to kill upwards of 20.000 of their own people (protestors) just in January 2026 alone.

As we say, words are cheap, action is harder. Meaning what I wrote earlier, change your behavior on the ground in the region and once you do that, a hand will be extended to you and you MIGHT be invited, if that is your wish.

Otherwise forget about it. If this news is even remotely accurate, Iran gave assurances to KSA of a regime change in terms of policies in those select few war-torn Arab nations. Nowadays only the Yemeni (Houthi terrorist cult) and Iraqi (fifth columns - according to a law passed by the Iraqi parliament those proxies will have to disband by 30 September 2026) https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...er-30-deadline-for-proiran-militias-to-disarm files matter in this regard.

Otherwise I am not against their inclusion (provided they change said behavior) because KSA (leadership, people etc.) would prefer a stable region which would enable KSA to fully focus on internal growth. Same priority that Turkiye has and other regional powers.

Ideally, EVEN some kind of deal with the Zionists in the region (by every power in the region) that would prevent conflict, would most likely be supported by everyone.

EDIT: Not including a notorious and disliked regional troublemaker in a defense pact as of today, is not kicking "the ones who are fallen", it is common sense until said behavior changes.

"Kicking the ones who are fallen" would be, if all 3 ganged up on Iran - which is not going to happen for 100's of reasons - some already given by officials from all 3 countries. .

Got it , you are cautious and inclined to wait and see approach ...we can live with that.

 

[Desert]

Are you joking? KSA has a far greater scientific output than Egypt which every statistic confirms. Literacy rates, much higher literacy rates, much higher scientific and industrial output on every front, let alone per capita.

LOL
You compare Saudia to Egypt in scientific field? WTF

i'm done.

 

[_Arabia_]

LOL
You compare Saudia to Egypt in scientific field? WTF

i'm done.

Indeed, an insult for KSA to be compared with a country where 30 of its 120 million people cannot even read or write.

Let alone a country that has far worse ranked universities, far less STEM graduates (despite a 3 times larger population), far less published scientific papers despite 3 times the population etc.

Let alone a far less industrial output on almost every front - let alone per capita.

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Anyone can look at the raw data out there.

If KSA had 80 million more people the difference would be even bigger in favor of KSA.

But thank you for indirectly admitting that you are that Albanian-Egyptian troll from the old PDF that was permanently banned for trolling by an Egyptian moderator, no less, as far as I recall.

Tell me, how many toilet cleaners among your relatives, worked in KSA throughout the ages?

@The SC

 

[Desert]

Indeed, an insult for KSA to be compared with a country where 30 of its 120 million people cannot even read or write.



@The SC

LOOOL . .

 

[_Arabia_]

This Albanian troll was blabbering about how nobody hates Shias in Egypt (the reality is that Egyptians are arguably the biggest anti-Shias among all Arabs) earlier in this thread, while the Egyptian secular regime is arresting the few remaining Shias in Egypt.

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In Egypt you can kill the most famous Shia cleric in Egypt and 4 other Shias and receive just 5 years jail time and 10 years.

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But if you insult Al-Sisi you can get a life sentence.

Crackdown on Shia TV channels, websites expected in Egypt | Amr Emam | AW

Egypt’s Salafists welcomed a court ruling ordering Egyptian authorities to suspend operations at Shia TV channels and internet service providers to take down Shia sites.

thearabweekly.com

Not even KSA does this above - but the Albanian troll wants to make it sound like Egypt and Egyptians are in love with the Shia Islamic regime of Iran.

Luckily Iranian users here are ignorant about internal Arab affairs so they believe the nonsense this troll writes of Egyptians hating KSA (in reality Egyptians love KSA more than any other foreign country), Egypt and Egyptians loving Shias, Egypt and Iran being some imaginary great allies and other such nonsense. All due to his inferiority complexes/hatred for Arabs as the Albanian-Egyptian that he is. After the removal of the monarchy in 1953 (you can find posts of his where he praises the monarchy of Egypt - go figure why) the tiny small portion of non-Arabs and non-Egyptians that dominated Egypt lost almost all of their wealth - he is likely a descendant of this group of people - and in return this minority in Egypt has developed a great hatred for Arabs - since the coup in 1953 was motivated by Arab nationalism - Egypt was the political capital of Arab nationalism (modern form).

 

[r3alist]

Makes zero sense. Historically Turkiye and Iran have been rivals - much like Arabs and Iran. In fact Turkiye (Ottomans) and Iran (Safavids) fought more wars than Arabs and Iran.

There is something under threat which might bring everyone together if it came under threat


I think that something is perceived as under threat which has forced pragmatism

Mecca agreement.

 

[Desert]

This Albanian troll was blabbering about how nobody hates Shias in Egypt (the reality is that Egyptians are arguably the biggest anti-Shias among all Arabs) earlier in this thread, while the Egyptian secular regime is arresting the few remaining Shias in Egypt.

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But if you insult Al-Sisi you can get a life sentence.

Crackdown on Shia TV channels, websites expected in Egypt | Amr Emam | AW

Egypt’s Salafists welcomed a court ruling ordering Egyptian authorities to suspend operations at Shia TV channels and internet service providers to take down Shia sites.

thearabweekly.com

Not even KSA does this above - but the Albanian troll wants to make it sound like Egypt and Egyptians are in love with the Shia Islamic regime of Iran.

LOL mr Saudia is strong , listen ..
that incident about the Shia guy who got killed in Egypt was after 2011 revolution in a small village (where people thought that Shehata brings women to his house for adultery) , it has nothing to do with his faith LOL

now you gonna speak like you know Egypt more than me and say " Oh , no he got killed because he is shia".

 

[r3alist]

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[The SC]

Indeed, an insult for KSA to be compared with a country where 30 of its 120 million people cannot even read or write.

Let alone a country that has far worse ranked universities, far less STEM graduates (despite a 3 times larger population), far less published scientific papers despite 3 times the population etc.

Let alone a far less industrial output on almost every front - let alone per capita.

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Anyone can look at the raw data out there.

If KSA had 80 million more people the difference would be even bigger in favor of KSA.

But thank you for indirectly admitting that you are that Albanian-Egyptian troll from the old PDF that was permanently banned for trolling by an Egyptian moderator, no less, as far as I recall.

Tell me, how many toilet cleaners among your relatives, worked in KSA throughout the ages?

@The SC

Egypt could be in the top Arab countries in education if it had more natural resources..they are pretty good in electronics and have thousands of professors and doctors all over the Western world..

 

[mythbuster]

Egypt could be in the top Arab countries in education if it had more natural resources..they are pretty good in electronics and have thousands of professors and doctors all over the Western world..

I would be a god of tits and wines if I was a young and handsome billionaire.

 

[Master Chief]

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My sincere thoughts are that Iran will not join the pact, and is probably not on the invitee list at present. That could certainly change years down the line. But for now, it seems impossible due to the war that is ongoing and its various regional "sideshows".

For this reason, Iranian officials mentioning publicly that there has been some sort of invitation (whether true or not) and then furthermore suggesting that an attack by Israel against the alliance would also provoke a reaction from Iran is a masterstroke of diplomacy. In making these calculated statements, Iran puts substantial pressure on Tel Aviv. Now, the planners in Tel Aviv are cognisant that any recklessness from them against the Turks could cause a severe backlash - both from a foe that has demonstrated the WILL to throw punches against it but also from an unknown tripartite entity whose real military capabilities could put them in a real fix. Israel has NEVER faced this scenario before.