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As for Syria, Turkey is getting involved like hands and gloves....Take a leaf from Syria. It's unofficially the first step toward Greater Israel. Reshaping of the middle east is already under way.
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As for Syria, Turkey is getting involved like hands and gloves....Take a leaf from Syria. It's unofficially the first step toward Greater Israel. Reshaping of the middle east is already under way.
True. Geopolitics is a complex science but Israel is indeed behind the fall of Syria and Jolani/ Al Shara.As for Syria, Turkey is getting involved like hands and gloves....
That's your opinion. Iran has no problem with Turkey and Pakistan. Any attack against Iran by a third country while Iran and Saudi have clashes or war means that the third party enters a war of choice against Iran.Well, if anyone attacks Saudi, Turkiye or Pakistan you will see the true intnetions
If it is Iran so be it, Muslim world fed up of your bulls**t now
I seriously doubt. The genocidal Assads were their best assets. The fall of Assads was orchestrated by the Turkish intelligence. And, I won't be surprised if Pak was lurking behind the scene....True. Geopolitics is a complex science but Israel is indeed behind the fall of Syria and Jolani/ Al Shara.
Turkish foreign minister says the four countries are exploring how to combine their strengths amid growing regional tensions and the war on Iran
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From left: Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty, Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud and Pakistani Foreign Minister Mohammad Ishaq Dar in a picture taken on 19 March 2026 in Riyadh (Handout)
By Ragip Soylu in Ankara
Published date: 21 March 2026 15:42 GMT | Last update: 12 mins 14 secs ago
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The foreign ministers of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan held talks in Riyadh on Thursday, on the sideline of a summit of Islamic countries, and discussed ways to combine their strengths for the first time.
Turkey has, since last year, been seeking a security pact with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Earlier this year, a Pakistani minister said in a statement that such a deal had been in the pipeline for nearly a year.
Turkish sources familiar with the issue previously told Middle East Eye that Ankara was also trying to bring Egypt into the arrangement. The sources said the agreement would not mirror the guarantees and commitments of Nato, but would instead serve as a security platform to enable greater cooperation in the defence industry and broader defence matters.
"We are exploring how, as countries with a certain degree of influence in the region, we can combine our strengths to solve problems," Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said on Saturday.
"Above all, we have for some time been saying that the countries of the region should come together, hold discussions and develop ideas. We emphasise regional ownership."
Fidan added that the countries were discussing the current situation in the region, including the US-Israeli war on Iran and Tehran's counterattacks on Gulf countries, and considering what benefits their joint efforts could bring in addressing such challenges.
"In principle, we need to recognise this: either we come together and learn to solve our own problems ourselves, or an external hegemon will come and either impose solutions that serve its own interests, or do nothing while preventing others from acting," he said.
While Ankara has repeatedly described Israel as the primary instigator of the war with Iran, a joint statement by the participating countries in Riyadh on Thursday strongly criticised Tehran for its attacks on the Gulf.
The statement mentioned Israel only briefly, referring to its "expansionist" policy in Lebanon.
"We need to learn to trust one another. We need to act together on certain issues. We need to be able to adopt a common stance," Fidan said.
He added that Ankara had extensive experience in international relations when it came to advancing institutional and collective initiatives, and that countries such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt each possessed significant capabilities and played important regional roles.
While Ankara has invested heavily in its defence industry, championing the domestic production of advanced drones, missiles and jets, Pakistan possesses nuclear warheads, and Saudi Arabia is emerging as an important hub for advanced technologies.
Egypt, as the most populous Arab nation, is seen as a pillar of the region because of its military capabilities.
Turkey and Egypt signed a bilateral military agreement in February to deepen their cooperation in the security field during Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's visit to Cairo.
During the visit, Turkish arms supplier Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation (MKE) signed a $350m export agreement with the Egyptian Ministry of Defence, which included the sale of ammunition and the establishment of production lines in Egypt.
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Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan meet as Ankara pushes for a security pact
Turkish foreign minister says the four countries are exploring how to combine their strengths amid growing regional tensions and the war on Iranwww.middleeasteye.net
Israelis were ready to attack Kahuta, it was the Indian government that ultimately vetoed the plan, fearing the breakout of a conventional war. There was no Pakistani nuke at the time.Your entire argument starts falling apart the moment you look at Kahuta. Israel and India planned striking Pakistan’s nuclear programme in the early 1980s, after already destroying Osirak in Iraq. Pakistan then, was technologically and conventionally far weaker than it is today.
So what happened to that supposed absolute superiority? Why was the attack never carried out? Beause they feared Nuclear retaliation... Israel despite having all the military goodies is a tiny land mass.
I was responding to your boasts about the size of Pakistani AWACS fleet, that it is bigger that Israel. The point is Israel has its own AWACS/EW assets, access to GCC radars AND NATO satellites and radars.Now coming on to the the the classic argument: Israel has access to “unlimited” Western intelligence, therefore every other strategic calculation in the region simply ceases to exist.
And whatever happened to these supposedly omniscient Western intelligence capabilities anyway? During the fighting, the Israelis were repeatedly striking mock aircraft, decoy launchers and other dummy targets. Apparently “unlimited intelligence” still has limits.
Does the Israeli Air Force not possess all of these capabilities you mentioned and in greater capacity ?Israel has an exceptionally capable air force, nobody disputes that. But “far exceeds” everyone in every relevant category is fanboy analysis, and clearly shows your lack to knowlegde. Pakistan and Türkiye operate proper network centric air forces with AEW&C, BVR weapons, electronic warfare, and substantial combat fleets. Israel would be facing a modern military, not chasing Houthis around Yemen or bombing clear skies in Tehran
What deterrence when you have little to no capacity or capability to fight Israel in the first place ?? You are building sand castles in the air.Nobody said Pakistan is planning to launch some heroic expedition to Tel Aviv to “save the Saudis.” The entire point of a defence pact is deterrence: making any adversary calculate the wider consequences before escalating. That applies whether the threat comes from Israel, Iran, India or anyone else.
Pak intelligence is busy beating its own people and snatching elections. Doubt they had anything to do with Syria.I seriously doubt. The genocidal Assads were their best assets. The fall of Assads was orchestrated by the Turkish intelligence. And, I won't be surprised if Pak was lurking behind the scene....
Turks have given a chance to Syria to rebuild its country, at current stage they can't take on Israel to take back Golan heights, and given Jolani is former Terrorists he has to navigate very carefully, but it would be wise for Syria to play all sides and keep a low profile to build it stregth back with help of some Western countries and Turkiye.I seriously doubt. The genocidal Assads were their best assets. The fall of Assads was orchestrated by the Turkish intelligence. And, I won't be surprised if Pak was lurking behind the scene....
But it will not be against Iran though, Pakistan has been working hard to encourage Turkey, Saudia to oppose the war on Iran, Pakistan backed Iran in the UN, and gave political and moral support to Iran, our senior leadership attended Iran numerous times to show support. But yes in other nations like Yemen, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia we will witness suppprt for pro Saudia Turkey governments. Pakistan has no stake but Turkey and Saudia want pro governments in their immediate region.Well said, that's why we can only guess the true intentions of this pact.
Not a fan of these defensive pacts with foreign countries, we have no control over the foreign policies of these countries so why should we send our soldiers to die fighting other nations' wars just because they may declare a war on a country that has nothing to do with us thousands of miles away. I think this is also unfair to our soldiers who made an oath to die defending Pakistan not saudi arabia or turkiye.
Pakistan has every right to form alliance/defence treaties with whoever they want but it was Saudia who threatened Pakistan, you will not talk about that since all you see is petrodollars. But some people oppose Pakistanis fighting other people wars and getting back bodies.And who just bailed out Pakistan when the UAE asked for its back from Pakistan because Pakistan wasn't going to play by UAU's ball during the ongoing war on Iran? And who has done it many times over the decades? Right, it was Malaysia, or Indonesia, or Turkey! NOT!
You speak with the same exuberance of a typical expat living in some Western countries and sadly your views have been too tainted by Pakistan's domestic politics just like the Pahalvists living in Western countries.
This is the most likely scenario.
What about if India attack Pakistan ?
Turkiye and S.Arabia will fight for Pakistan
US approval
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