Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Also if the Power tripping regime was even a bit serious they would have blown the TTA entire fleet of MI8 helicopters and MD500 scout attack heli
force them to travel by road making them easy pickings for ISKP sucide bombers
 
There’s a nuance here. The Taliban do think theologically, they reject the Durand Line because they reject the Western nation state model altogether... But at the same time, they do not even consider us Muslims, a classic Kharijite trait... That’s what truly inflames the conflict.

The irony is that for the Taliban, despite all the religious rhetoric, ethnicity trumps religion in practice, even if they never openly admit it.
By "theological", I am suggesting if they put the benefit of the "Ummah" up front, conflict avoidance with Pakistan would top the list. But it does not work that way with them.

The reason they do not do this is because the first thing every Afghan government does, after coming to power, is to stick its thumb at Pakistan and ensure that those within the country know that they will steadfastly push their case to own up all land up to Peshawar. This has nothing to do with their rejection of the "Western Nation State Model". They vociferously stand for their "nation state" concept even if it comes at the expense of a conflict with a brotherly Muslim country (Pakistan).

100% agree with you on your last sentence.
 
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They didn't bomb the presidential palace or the governor's mansions...that's inconsequential. Every asset or every hiding ground of Taliban/ISIS/AQ was targeted and the insurgents were not given room to freely operate.
They didn't bomb most military bases either.

The truth is that most of the initial fighting was left to the Northern Alliance. Air support was not as abundant as you'd think.
So you're proposing bombing each and every living person in Afghanistan? Alright, let's suppose we even are capable of doing that, then what? How does that resolve the terrorism issue we have at hand?kou
That is absolutely not what im proposing. That's absurd and a strawman argument.

I'm proposing bombing high value militant targets, known bases, and targeting banks and financial institutions.

Cripple them both leadership wise, and economically.

This would help the NRF gain a proper foothold, and turn Afghanistan's guns inwards.
For how long will you keep playing this game of whack-a-mole? This isn't the LTTE that you are fighting in Sri Lanka where you can bomb all their infrastructure and hand them a military defeat. Neither is it Gaza that you can bomb 100 sq mi area into oblivion and keep everyone caged.
I never proposed what you've written in the first place.
It's become very convenient of late for all in this part of the world to put all the blame on Afghanistan and absolve yourself of your responsibilities.
Never did any such thing.

But I must remind you that I was one of the few people since the old PDF that actively said the return of the taliban was not a good idea.
I think it's high time we accept that the terrorism issue is now fully home grown, and not only an imported problem, and need to tackle it as such.
It is not.

This is as bad of a take as said that the terrorism issue is entirely afghanistan's fault.

its a mix of both, because militants born on both sides of the border have participated and died for militant causes.

on top of that, Afghanistan has NEVER been friendly towards Pakistan, ever.
Blaming Afghanistan every time and getting all red in the eyes with blood isn't going to give you a long term practical solution, just short term euphoria.
See above.
Ah yes...strategic depth, magr aik twist kay sath. Because last time our endeavors went so well. Besides, what is up with this pipe dream of Balkanizing Afghanistan? Again, what will that do? The pushtun belt will remain as is, and that is where you have an issue. The rest of the country is practically irrelevant to us, balkanize or not.
Never said anything about strategic depth.

Again, no idea where this came from.

Balkanizing Afghanistan is not in fact a pipe dream. Afghanistan has a ton of ethnic tensions and violence. It is ripe for such a thing.

The pashtun belt will continue to exist, sure, but the territory they'll operate from will be more manageable and easier to deal with...and that's the point.
 
this is the great thing, there doesnt have to be, i dont suggest an overt deal, pak and israel already have intelligence co operation, what i suggest is we backdoor assurances to them, in exchange for security/intelligence assistance with our rat problem, mass surveillence, border surveillence etc. If they dont keep their end of the deal up, we withdraw ours. We can dislike it as much as we want, but theyre the only state that has successfully kept these types at bay.

Fxuk the Jews,, their should be nothing but contempt and hatred for the small hats anywhere and everywhere they are

And we should use their actions to push a response amongst multiple states
 
But I must remind you that I was one of the few people since the old PDF that actively said the return of the taliban was not a good idea.

Only the Khakis supported the return of Talibans and ISI Chief visited Kabul. The world blames Pakistan regardless of which faction in Pakistan supported or opposed the Talibans.
 
Only the Khakis supported the return of Talibans and ISI Chief visited Kabul. The world blames Pakistan regardless of which faction in Pakistan supported or opposed the Talibans.

The world doesn't care

Neither do we

The Afghan Republic, USA, NATO and India were a long term strategic threat

That threat was dealt with by the ISI

Pakistan and the Afghans could have moved on, but afghans want to act like donkeys, so now this new threat has to be dealt with


We need to keep destroying and bringing down Afghanistan over and over again until they learn then so be it
 
Only the Khakis supported the return of Talibans and ISI Chief visited Kabul. The world blames Pakistan regardless of which faction in Pakistan supported or opposed the Talibans.
What did Imran Khan sahib say on Twitter when Taliban took over Kabul?
 
What did Imran Khan sahib say on Twitter when Taliban took
Fortunately or unfortunately, we were colonized by the British, dragged into 20th century, leared to speak English and build a better infrastructure, educational institutions. The Afghans are at the same level as we were in 1857 before the British colonization. Ataturk dragged the Turks , Reza Khan dragged the Iranians into 20th century. Zahir Shah tried half heartedly and failed in Afghanistan.
 
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Fortunately or unfortunately, we were colonized by the British, dragged into 20th century, leared to speak English and build a better infrastructure and education, educational institutions. The Afghans are at the same level as we were in 1857 before the British colonization.
why cant u answer a simple question
 
Another round of fratricide …

Don't recall any of your posts calling for this "fratricide" either the day before yesterday, or the week before, or the month(s) before, or the year(s) ago when over 3000 Pakistanis were being mass murdered by your "fraternity" in Afghanistan.

Where is your post about the "fratricide" when the mosque in Islamabad was targeted?

Kindly stop peddling this snake-oil marketing on behalf of the Takfiris. Nobody buys this bakvas in Pakistan any more except the Taliban sympathizers given their sheer munafiqat. When Pakistan metes out punishment in RESPONSE, this lame "fratricide, murder of fellow-Muslims" propaganda starts trickling from the usual mouthpieces.
 
The world doesn't care

Neither do we

The Afghan Republic, USA, NATO and India were a long term strategic threat

That threat was dealt with by the ISI

Pakistan and the Afghans could have moved on, but afghans want to act like donkeys, so now this new threat has to be dealt with


We need to keep destroying and bringing down Afghanistan over and over again until they learn then so be it
We have to see everything in bigger picture. Afghan front gets hot right after "entity" hexagonal Alliance chirp was declared.
now i am very sure that they are going to assassinate Supreme leader of Iran in Iran and balkanized Iran. then they will come after Pakistan from All sides. all this is short time.
Allah Hamara Hami o Nasir Ho! Tough days ahead - we must unite stop fighting among ourselves and get ready to face what is to come.
 

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