Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[pakistanitarzan]

How hard is it to hack these drones and send them back to where they were launched? Same coordinates!

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

How hard is it to hack these drones and send them back to where they were launched? Same coordinates!

It's not a question of capability. It's intention and mentality.

These generals dont care, they did some strikes for merely public consumption and now are trying to downplay the drone attacks like nothing is happening.

It's nothing less than beghairati. Keep getting attacked and sit silently like a little bitch.

The mentality of these generals is a scared dog that has no respect for his own home. He tolerates everything until it comes to a big city and criticism grows so they have to save face.

 

[Gripen9]

We don't. We want to be completely separate and independent from Afghanistan. We have our own identity and culture. The truth is, we don't get along with Afghan Pashtun. They are very different from us.

I speak to many people in Peshawar. The sentiment against Afghans is extreme. The people of KP really blame Afghans for security deterioration. During the WoT Afghan suicide attackers made Peshawar unsafe.

Your comment reminds me of something I experienced when my father was posted in Peshawar around 1980–81. I remember my mother chatting with a shopkeeper in Barha Market who was frustrated about the growing number of Afghan refugees and businesses in the area. She casually remarked, "What's the problem? Aren't they your brothers?" The shopkeeper laughed bitterly, muttered a few choice words, and replied, "Just wait a few years you'll see how brotherly they really are."

That conversation stuck with me because it showed that tensions between many locals in Peshawar and Afghan refugees weren't something that emerged only after the War on Terror. They existed long before, although later decades of conflict and terrorism undoubtedly made those feelings much stronger.

 

[Gripen9]

As much as I'd like PAF to bomb terrorist infrastructure in Afghanistan. We should also look at the quality of intelligence that is being provided to PAF.

From February till March, when Joint Command got cold feet after bombing of Camp Phoenix, there was a proper air campaign aimed at Taliban military sites. It wasn't hurting TTP, but at least it was raising cost for the Taliban.

Then, after that, twice when PAF has hit sites in Afghanistan, they were insignificant, had no real value, and were in remote areas closer to Pakistani border. Both times, there were civilian casualties, and we have bad PR all over the world.

What we should be asking the high command is, how incompetent is our intelligence community that we cannot pin point any top level leader of TTP and then maybe pass that information to PAF, so their effort actually bears some fruit. These random strikes will not act as deterrent. Taliban don't care about their civilians, and no matter how many of them die, we would not see any difference. Taliban will feel the pain when you actually hit places and people that matter to them.

I agree. If we need to mount an air campaign, it needs to be two pronged. 10 target strategic TTA infrastructure around Kabul & Kandahar everytime we have an attack in Pakistan to make it cost prohibitive to support this cretins. 2) have 24/7 drone presence over border areas flying Akincis / TB2s on station able to deploy smaller munitions to target smaller approaching "tashkeels" or vehicles or timely reaction to intelligence in the border areas.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

This is what the mullahs & liberals in the establishment and civil society flooded Pakistan with and there needs to be accountability.

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[pakistanitarzan]

This is what the mullahs & liberals in the establishment and civil society flooded Pakistan with and there needs to be accountability.

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Hope he has seen black Vigo by now

 

[muz]

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When did this attack happen exactly

 

[maverik]

This is what the mullahs & liberals in the establishment and civil society flooded Pakistan with and there needs to be accountability.

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A short story. Around 2006, a family of Afghan refugees a husband, a wife, three sons, and a daughter came to Karachi. We owned a house that was vacant and available for rent. They approached my father and asked if they could rent it. After hearing that the man did not have a job or any source of income, my father decided to give them our home rent free until 2017!. He also helped the man get job and paid the school fees for his three sons until they completed their matriculation. They were literally raised by us in Karachi.
Fast forward to today: the eldest son got a job at a government hospital after completing his nursing diploma, and the other two started a business and became very successful.. a few days ago, I saw their Facebook feed. They were spewing venom against Pakistan, calling us 'Punjabis,' and sharing photos of martyred soldiers. You feed them, you raise them, but if they are Afghan, they will bite you back! I HAVE NO MERCY FOR THEM!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A short story. Around 2006, a family of Afghan refugees a husband, a wife, three sons, and a daughter came to Karachi. We owned a house that was vacant and available for rent. They approached my father and asked if they could rent it. After hearing that the man did not have a job or any source of income, my father decided to give them our home rent free until 2017!. He also helped the man get job and paid the school fees for his three sons until they completed their matriculation. They were literally raised by us in Karachi.
Fast forward to today: the eldest son got a job at a government hospital after completing his nursing diploma, and the other two started a business and became very successful.. a few days ago, I saw their Facebook feed. They were spewing venom against Pakistan, calling us 'Punjabis,' and sharing photos of martyred soldiers. You feed them, you raise them, but if they are Afghan, they will bite you back! I HAVE NO MERCY FOR THEM!

When you don any Ihsan for a person then protect yourself from his Sher - Hazret-i Ali (RA)

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Seriously, who comes up with this nonesense? Does this even sound believable?

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[Distant_Observer]

A short story. Around 2006, a family of Afghan refugees a husband, a wife, three sons, and a daughter came to Karachi. We owned a house that was vacant and available for rent. They approached my father and asked if they could rent it. After hearing that the man did not have a job or any source of income, my father decided to give them our home rent free until 2017!. He also helped the man get job and paid the school fees for his three sons until they completed their matriculation. They were literally raised by us in Karachi.
Fast forward to today: the eldest son got a job at a government hospital after completing his nursing diploma, and the other two started a business and became very successful.. a few days ago, I saw their Facebook feed. They were spewing venom against Pakistan, calling us 'Punjabis,' and sharing photos of martyred soldiers. You feed them, you raise them, but if they are Afghan, they will bite you back! I HAVE NO MERCY FOR THEM!

The biggest tragedy of all was these namak harams were treated better than our own minorities, natives of Indus, loyal patriots who had nowhere else to turn.

I am glad Pakistan as a society has course corrected but it had to learn a very harsh lesson.

 

[Master Chief]

The biggest tragedy of all was these namak harams were treated better than our own minorities, natives of Indus, loyal patriots who had nowhere else to turn.

I am glad Pakistan as a society has course corrected but it had to learn a very harsh lesson.

They have a fundamentally misplaced/baseless arrogance, a flawed assumption that they were always a superior race on the basis of their own hubris. Yet as a race, they lost repeatedly before 1947 and also at the time of our independence and Indian independence. They could fight, but not as well as us. They could certainly not defeat the designs of the British through guile, ambition and intellect.

While nations around them were birthed and prospered, they remained a poor and illiterate garrison for hire. That is what they are today. Sad really.