Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Peshawar was never considered "watan" by any pashtoon. They may say Pakistan is their watan or may say Afghanistan is their watan. But nobody call peshawar watan. Watan is a country, peshawar is a city.

Tarzan I think you spending too much time in forest instead of humans.
No need to get personal. You are talking about the urdu translation of the word watan however in different context, it can be applied to your hometown as well. In pashto, you could say "Zma watan Peshawar day"

However, the person I was referring to is strictly referring to Peshawar as his watan, as the rest of the country doesnt belong to him or it doesnt matter.
 
Most relevant figures and facts are here brother.

We spent 20 years propping up a regime that is an even bigger threat to us than India and seeks your destruction with reach deep inside.

The mullah-liberal complex in the establishment consciously backed them.

This is the outcome:

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babu sahib... i am reading yoir rage filled posts.. makes me gate crash GHQ and drag the "generals and ketnals out to invade Afghanistan..


there is a province in the way.. full of Mehood Achakzai , manzoor pashteens who dont recognize pakistani border and consider land up to Aattock belonging to Kabul...
the people have voted in a party 3 times that wants to make out with TTP .. calls them brothers and managed to settle them in swat... is against military operations and wants peace so that its brothers can regrand launch attacks so that this party mocks the dead and reposts the indian troll posts on social media..

you know why. TTP is not defeated and never attacked thus party? because it uses its support.. who do you think is housing the ttp terrorists before they launch an attack on an airbase? .. TTP has deep roots support in our pashton population specially and rest of the ethincities ..
generals will fight a bit when things become unbearble then retire and live abroad.
 
babu sahib... i am reading yoir rage filled posts.. makes me gate crash GHQ and drag the "generals and ketnals out to invade Afghanistan..


there is a province in the way.. full of Mehood Achakzai , manzoor pashteens who dont recognize pakistani border and consider land up to Aattock belonging to Kabul...
the people have voted in a party 3 times that wants to make out with TTP .. calls them brothers and managed to settle them in swat... is against military operations and wants peace so that its brothers can regrand launch attacks so that this party mocks the dead and reposts the indian troll posts on social media..

you know why. TTP is not defeated and never attacked thus party? because it uses its support.. who do you think is housing the ttp terrorists before they launch an attack on an airbase? .. TTP has deep roots support in our pashton population specially and rest of the ethincities ..
generals will fight a bit when things become unbearble then retire and live abroad.
Take public support from BLA and TTP, and they will fall within 3-6 months, there is a reason why majority of the civilized world has moved on, even countries like Iraq/Syria which were once epicenter of global terrorism and civil war are now looking towards rebuilding their country but in our KPK/Baluchistan, these people are still living in cut throat and khud kuss bombing era, and unfortunately people don't want to change that because that's their Riwayaat and saqafat.
 
babu sahib... i am reading yoir rage filled posts.. makes me gate crash GHQ and drag the "generals and ketnals out to invade Afghanistan..


there is a province in the way.. full of Mehood Achakzai , manzoor pashteens who dont recognize pakistani border and consider land up to Aattock belonging to Kabul...
the people have voted in a party 3 times that wants to make out with TTP .. calls them brothers and managed to settle them in swat... is against military operations and wants peace so that its brothers can regrand launch attacks so that this party mocks the dead and reposts the indian troll posts on social media..

you know why. TTP is not defeated and never attacked thus party? because it uses its support.. who do you think is housing the ttp terrorists before they launch an attack on an airbase? .. TTP has deep roots support in our pashton population specially and rest of the ethincities ..
generals will fight a bit when things become unbearble then retire and live abroad.
I understand all this more than most and have been one of the first to call it out.

The intersection of TTP, Afghanism and Pashtun nationalism is well known as well as its support in the local Pashtun population but its a reality you will have to directly confront. Not shy away from. Then PTIs shamelessness is also well known.

But that last part is exactly the problem, the gernails and kernails do not care enough to address the problem face-on. They do the bare minimum lazily and retire in Amreka their motherland, or wherever.

How can anyone ever trust them or rely on them when this is more of a baggage or burden for them? They dont even have 1/10th of the kind of nationalist aggression that Afghans with nothing to eat have shown.

Do you realise how embarassing that is? Too many excuses, too little action, weak willpower.
 
No need to get personal. You are talking about the urdu translation of the word watan however in different context, it can be applied to your hometown as well. In pashto, you could say "Zma watan Peshawar day"

However, the person I was referring to is strictly referring to Peshawar as his watan, as the rest of the country doesnt belong to him or it doesnt matter.

Bro, my home is 20 minutes drive from main peshawar city. I did my college from peshawar. I have never heard anyone saying pekhaaar zama watan day.

But never mind.
 
Unfortunately unavoidable. They live with their families. It’s their actions that put their families at risk. If you have a better idea, please explain.

deploy Special forces.. A-stan doesnt have a airforce or a competent air defense.


Israel got it arse handed on plate with this kind of policy... and we dont have even 1/100 of a clout Israel had...
 
If the enemy chooses to hide among civilians infrastructure that's not something Pakistan can mitigate against.

This is called taking human shields. A tactic used by terrorists and cowards. If they were truly valiant they would not need to hide among civilians buildings, they rule the entire country after all and Afghanistan has more than enough land mass to build bases for these turds.

no such thing as collateral damage in Islamic warfare.

as much as I despise Afghans worse than RSS, Zionist, patwaris and faujeeets , I cannot accept any civilian causlties... it is something that will be questioned on us on the day judgement...

sorry my stance is in line with Islam.. even there is a single terrorist and bomb will kill even one civilian that is unacceptable

we need to improve the quality of our intelligence, special forces and technology of our weapons to ensure ONLY those terrorist need to be wacked.....
 
no such thing as collateral damage in Islamic warfare.

as much as I despise Afghans worse than RSS, Zionist, patwaris and faujeeets , I cannot accept any civilian causlties... it is something that will be questioned on us on the day judgement...

sorry my stance is in line with Islam.. even there is a single terrorist and bomb will kill even one civilian that is unacceptable

we need to improve the quality of our intelligence, special forces and technology of our weapons to ensure ONLY those terrorist need to be wacked.....
No one gives a shit about your stance its not even Islamically correct either, you are a low IQ idiotic mullah whose opinion holds less value than dirt and real life is not a disney movie where there will magically be no casualities or youll do Rambo operations against terrorists everywhere

Nowhere in history has that ever happened so move along rëtard
 
no such thing as collateral damage in Islamic warfare.

as much as I despise Afghans worse than RSS, Zionist, patwaris and faujeeets , I cannot accept any civilian causlties... it is something that will be questioned on us on the day judgement...

sorry my stance is in line with Islam.. even there is a single terrorist and bomb will kill even one civilian that is unacceptable

we need to improve the quality of our intelligence, special forces and technology of our weapons to ensure ONLY those terrorist need to be wacked.....
Brother, i hear you and i feel where you are coming from. I bet you that none of us on this forum have a clue about fiqh. The geo political situation is very complex and lets just say be glad its not you or I hitting the trigger because often what we perceive as truth is not. I will hope that we reduce civillian casualties as much as we can, if not eliminate. May Allah forgive us all!
 
A short story. Around 2006, a family of Afghan refugees a husband, a wife, three sons, and a daughter came to Karachi. We owned a house that was vacant and available for rent. They approached my father and asked if they could rent it. After hearing that the man did not have a job or any source of income, my father decided to give them our home rent free until 2017!. He also helped the man get job and paid the school fees for his three sons until they completed their matriculation. They were literally raised by us in Karachi.
Fast forward to today: the eldest son got a job at a government hospital after completing his nursing diploma, and the other two started a business and became very successful.. a few days ago, I saw their Facebook feed. They were spewing venom against Pakistan, calling us 'Punjabis,' and sharing photos of martyred soldiers. You feed them, you raise them, but if they are Afghan, they will bite you back! I HAVE NO MERCY FOR THEM!

That is what the Zionists once did when the Brits allowed them entry into Palestine. We are lucky that we can throw these Afghans out.
 
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Contrary to popular sentiment in Pakistan, US has always been Pakistan's most trusted and effective ally in our war against home grown insurgency and terrorism. They are the ones who were indirectly aiding 7Div in NW with their consistent drone campaign from 2010 till 2014 when finally we got around to clearing that hell hole. Before that, our troops were at the mercy of daily IEDs and ambushes. The only respite was when an American drone would take out a local commander.

All our major terrorist targets have been taken out by the US. It's unfortunate we couldn't see eye-to-eye on Afghanistan's political solution, but no one should deny US assistance. The only way forward to take out our most wanted terrorists in Afghanistan, is by getting intelligence assistance from the US, since our own intel community is so incompetent that we can't even locate a mid-level commander in Afghanistan, after having 50 years of footprint in that country.
 
Yesterday a family was killed in that drone attack. Civilian family. If it was instead Lt. Col and his 2 kids killed in that drone attack. Will we still be observing this strategic patience? ??
Who said we didnt respond?
 

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