Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[pakistanitarzan]

Peshawar was never considered "watan" by any pashtoon. They may say Pakistan is their watan or may say Afghanistan is their watan. But nobody call peshawar watan. Watan is a country, peshawar is a city.

Tarzan I think you spending too much time in forest instead of humans.

No need to get personal. You are talking about the urdu translation of the word watan however in different context, it can be applied to your hometown as well. In pashto, you could say "Zma watan Peshawar day"

However, the person I was referring to is strictly referring to Peshawar as his watan, as the rest of the country doesnt belong to him or it doesnt matter.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Most relevant figures and facts are here brother.

We spent 20 years propping up a regime that is an even bigger threat to us than India and seeks your destruction with reach deep inside.

The mullah-liberal complex in the establishment consciously backed them.

This is the outcome:

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babu sahib... i am reading yoir rage filled posts.. makes me gate crash GHQ and drag the "generals and ketnals out to invade Afghanistan..


there is a province in the way.. full of Mehood Achakzai , manzoor pashteens who dont recognize pakistani border and consider land up to Aattock belonging to Kabul...
the people have voted in a party 3 times that wants to make out with TTP .. calls them brothers and managed to settle them in swat... is against military operations and wants peace so that its brothers can regrand launch attacks so that this party mocks the dead and reposts the indian troll posts on social media..

you know why. TTP is not defeated and never attacked thus party? because it uses its support.. who do you think is housing the ttp terrorists before they launch an attack on an airbase? .. TTP has deep roots support in our pashton population specially and rest of the ethincities ..
generals will fight a bit when things become unbearble then retire and live abroad.

 

[Starlord]

babu sahib... i am reading yoir rage filled posts.. makes me gate crash GHQ and drag the "generals and ketnals out to invade Afghanistan..


there is a province in the way.. full of Mehood Achakzai , manzoor pashteens who dont recognize pakistani border and consider land up to Aattock belonging to Kabul...
the people have voted in a party 3 times that wants to make out with TTP .. calls them brothers and managed to settle them in swat... is against military operations and wants peace so that its brothers can regrand launch attacks so that this party mocks the dead and reposts the indian troll posts on social media..

you know why. TTP is not defeated and never attacked thus party? because it uses its support.. who do you think is housing the ttp terrorists before they launch an attack on an airbase? .. TTP has deep roots support in our pashton population specially and rest of the ethincities ..
generals will fight a bit when things become unbearble then retire and live abroad.

Take public support from BLA and TTP, and they will fall within 3-6 months, there is a reason why majority of the civilized world has moved on, even countries like Iraq/Syria which were once epicenter of global terrorism and civil war are now looking towards rebuilding their country but in our KPK/Baluchistan, these people are still living in cut throat and khud kuss bombing era, and unfortunately people don't want to change that because that's their Riwayaat and saqafat.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

babu sahib... i am reading yoir rage filled posts.. makes me gate crash GHQ and drag the "generals and ketnals out to invade Afghanistan..


there is a province in the way.. full of Mehood Achakzai , manzoor pashteens who dont recognize pakistani border and consider land up to Aattock belonging to Kabul...
the people have voted in a party 3 times that wants to make out with TTP .. calls them brothers and managed to settle them in swat... is against military operations and wants peace so that its brothers can regrand launch attacks so that this party mocks the dead and reposts the indian troll posts on social media..

you know why. TTP is not defeated and never attacked thus party? because it uses its support.. who do you think is housing the ttp terrorists before they launch an attack on an airbase? .. TTP has deep roots support in our pashton population specially and rest of the ethincities ..
generals will fight a bit when things become unbearble then retire and live abroad.

I understand all this more than most and have been one of the first to call it out.

The intersection of TTP, Afghanism and Pashtun nationalism is well known as well as its support in the local Pashtun population but its a reality you will have to directly confront. Not shy away from. Then PTIs shamelessness is also well known.

But that last part is exactly the problem, the gernails and kernails do not care enough to address the problem face-on. They do the bare minimum lazily and retire in Amreka their motherland, or wherever.

How can anyone ever trust them or rely on them when this is more of a baggage or burden for them? They dont even have 1/10th of the kind of nationalist aggression that Afghans with nothing to eat have shown.

Do you realise how embarassing that is? Too many excuses, too little action, weak willpower.

 

[RealNapster]

No need to get personal. You are talking about the urdu translation of the word watan however in different context, it can be applied to your hometown as well. In pashto, you could say "Zma watan Peshawar day"

However, the person I was referring to is strictly referring to Peshawar as his watan, as the rest of the country doesnt belong to him or it doesnt matter.

Bro, my home is 20 minutes drive from main peshawar city. I did my college from peshawar. I have never heard anyone saying pekhaaar zama watan day.

But never mind.

 

[Dalit]

A short story. Around 2006, a family of Afghan refugees a husband, a wife, three sons, and a daughter came to Karachi. We owned a house that was vacant and available for rent. They approached my father and asked if they could rent it. After hearing that the man did not have a job or any source of income, my father decided to give them our home rent free until 2017!. He also helped the man get job and paid the school fees for his three sons until they completed their matriculation. They were literally raised by us in Karachi.
Fast forward to today: the eldest son got a job at a government hospital after completing his nursing diploma, and the other two started a business and became very successful.. a few days ago, I saw their Facebook feed. They were spewing venom against Pakistan, calling us 'Punjabis,' and sharing photos of martyred soldiers. You feed them, you raise them, but if they are Afghan, they will bite you back! I HAVE NO MERCY FOR THEM!

That is what the Zionists once did when the Brits allowed them entry into Palestine. We are lucky that we can throw these Afghans out.

 

[Xestan]

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Contrary to popular sentiment in Pakistan, US has always been Pakistan's most trusted and effective ally in our war against home grown insurgency and terrorism. They are the ones who were indirectly aiding 7Div in NW with their consistent drone campaign from 2010 till 2014 when finally we got around to clearing that hell hole. Before that, our troops were at the mercy of daily IEDs and ambushes. The only respite was when an American drone would take out a local commander.

All our major terrorist targets have been taken out by the US. It's unfortunate we couldn't see eye-to-eye on Afghanistan's political solution, but no one should deny US assistance. The only way forward to take out our most wanted terrorists in Afghanistan, is by getting intelligence assistance from the US, since our own intel community is so incompetent that we can't even locate a mid-level commander in Afghanistan, after having 50 years of footprint in that country.

 

[Panzerkiel]

Yesterday a family was killed in that drone attack. Civilian family. If it was instead Lt. Col and his 2 kids killed in that drone attack. Will we still be observing this strategic patience? ??

Who said we didnt respond?

 

[LC150]

Contrary to popular sentiment in Pakistan, US has always been Pakistan's most trusted and effective ally in our war against home grown insurgency and terrorism. They are the ones who were indirectly aiding 7Div in NW with their consistent drone campaign from 2010 till 2014 when finally we got around to clearing that hell hole. Before that, our troops were at the mercy of daily IEDs and ambushes. The only respite was when an American drone would take out a local commander.

All our major terrorist targets have been taken out by the US. It's unfortunate we couldn't see eye-to-eye on Afghanistan's political solution, but no one should deny US assistance. The only way forward to take out our most wanted terrorists in Afghanistan, is by getting intelligence assistance from the US, since our own intel community is so incompetent that we can't even locate a mid-level commander in Afghanistan, after having 50 years of footprint in that country.

as long as it is against other muslims they have no issue.. (again not siding with a-stans)

however if you remember the sale of 8 additional F-16s the hue and cry from indians made them stop the deal...

they are not our friend... never was... and still isnt

 

[RealNapster]

Who said we didnt respond?

I don't think we have responded to these recent drone attacks. I could be wrong. If someone can help me out and share some update on that.

 

[F.O.X]

Who said we didnt respond?

dont you know they get their latest news from WhatsApp and X accounts ? , that is the most trustable news source in the world.

 

[Xestan]

as long as it is against other muslims they have no issue.. (again not siding with a-stans)

however if you remember the sale of 8 additional F-16s the hue and cry from indians made them stop the deal...

they are not our friend... never was... and still isnt

Americans are your ally as much as you are theirs. The backstabbing and trust deficit is mutual. But in our WoT, they were the most reliable ally. I just hope we ask them for help again.

 

[LC150]

Americans are your ally as much as you are theirs. The backstabbing and trust deficit is mutual. But in our WoT, they were the most reliable ally. I just hope we ask them for help again.

this one is going to be tricky..

the deep state and American public hates Pakistan & A-stan equally ... same mind set during the iran - Iraq war... armed both sides and let them bleed to death..



better also to use the Chinese as leverage against A-stan... as china has keeping interest in rail and mining projects there.

in the end the object is to pacify A-stan and prevent their creatures making trouble in Pakistan.. we will need a broad strategy and one based kinetics alone wont work.

NATO tried ..and failed.

 

[RealNapster]

dont you know they get their latest news from WhatsApp and X accounts ? , that is the most trustable news source in the world.

You could have tagged me while talking about me. Because his reply was to my post.

And no. My source of news is not WhatsApp. And I dont have X account and have never followed Twitter at all. I have been an active member of PDF and then later this forum starting 2015. Before that, i was a guest viewer of this forum for 2 years. So you could say this is my source of latest news. Otherwise I have no desire for wasting time here and listening to bullsh!t from people.

And unlike you or others. I accept when I dont know something. Like this.

I don't think we have responded to these recent drone attacks. I could be wrong. If someone can help me out and share some update on that.

I am not antar-yaami. I am not All knowing. My knowledge and information have limits. So if I am not aware of any retaliation against these recent drone attack , update my knowledge. But dont be an idiot.