Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[muz]

There we go - back to the script
Ohh I cannot argue with them
What to do
What to do

You had one job.
I apparently threw my hands up. “It is as it is.” Cool. Quote it. One line.

A line. I’ll wait, I’ve got time, unlike the argument you just skipped.

Instead was the greatest hits. Israel. Zionist. Ziostani. Then a little skit where we’re all in Tel Aviv, queued up to firebomb Afghan villages so the other cultist boys can have a weekend.

Strong bit(Original too)You wrote both parts, played both parts, laughed at your own joke, and logged off like the case was closed.

Tumhara shehar, tum hi mudda‘i, tum hi munsif;
mujhe yaqeen hai mera hi qusoor niklega.

You just changed the subject because the subject was annoying? Lol revolutionary!

You lot talk about change and fold the second someone asks for a line.

I double dare you
Ill be in Pakistan - I will sit across your face and say this EXACT same thing - and then lets see if you were ever taught these values by anybody to actually give me a coherent argument back instead of going to “Israel this, zionist that” and discussing - or maybe you the typical variety who just like the same faujis who birthed your leader going to resort to threats and violence - seekha hi yehi hai.

As for the challenge
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What is your definition of a Cult

 

[PK781]

Nuking afghandustan will solve the problem once and for all.

sooner or later this will be needed, or the talibunnies will start sending daily big numbers of drones to Pak......we all know the money is coming from some gulfies and india/israel nexus
our commanders are unnecessarily delaying what they will need to do later anyway......

I dont even know who the hell even wants to FLY to afghanistan from Pakistan, how and why do we allow their airline Kam Air to fly to Pakistan ??? Shameless

 

[PK781]

You could massacre the entire population of Afghanistan and the Taliban would probably cheer. They dont give a $hit about civilians. In fact , every innocent person killed gives them more recruits, more hatred against Pakistan and more propaganda to hide behind.

If you want the taliban to take Pakistan seriously, then target their leadership, camps, finances and support networks. Make the people responsible pay the price. Murdering random civilians will not weaken the Taliban, it will only prove their propaganda for them .

what you said........yehi to ho nahi raha! we are paying the price while theyre easily attacking us......when will be target all that jazz you mentioned??

yehi to sawal hai, which leads to no answers.... we see no action being taken on that,

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

sooner or later this will be needed, or the talibunnies will start sending daily big numbers of drones to Pak......we all know the money is coming from some gulfies and india/israel nexus
our commanders are unnecessarily delaying what they will need to do later anyway......

I dont even know who the hell even wants to FLY to afghanistan from Pakistan, how and why do we allow their airline Kam Air to fly to Pakistan ??? Shameless

Why would anyone want to go to the world's most failed and backward land of prostitutes called afghandustan?

Nukes or no nukes, ultimately Pakistan will have to obliterate afghandustan and kill of the afghandu population. It has now become a matter of survival to do so.

 

[313Ghazi]

There we go - back to the script
Ohh I cannot argue with them
What to do
What to do

You had one job.
I apparently threw my hands up. “It is as it is.” Cool. Quote it. One line.

A line. I’ll wait, I’ve got time, unlike the argument you just skipped.

Instead was the greatest hits. Israel. Zionist. Ziostani. Then a little skit where we’re all in Tel Aviv, queued up to firebomb Afghan villages so the other cultist boys can have a weekend.

Strong bit(Original too)You wrote both parts, played both parts, laughed at your own joke, and logged off like the case was closed.

Tumhara shehar, tum hi mudda‘i, tum hi munsif;
mujhe yaqeen hai mera hi qusoor niklega.

You just changed the subject because the subject was annoying? Lol revolutionary!

You lot talk about change and fold the second someone asks for a line.

I double dare you
Ill be in Pakistan - I will sit across your face and say this EXACT same thing - and then lets see if you were ever taught these values by anybody to actually give me a coherent argument back instead of going to “Israel this, zionist that” and discussing - or maybe you the typical variety who just like the same faujis who birthed your leader going to resort to threats and violence - seekha hi yehi hai.

As for the challenge
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This Ai stuff is cool. I just ask Ai to do me.

 

[PK781]

Why would anyone want to go to the world's most failed and backward land of prostitutes called afghandustan?

Nukes or no nukes, ultimately Pakistan will have to obliterate afghandustan and kill of the afghandu population. It has now become a matter of survival to do so.

because if no action or very little is taken, then we would be facing these suicide attacks on our people/cities and it would become a new normal.
How many sons in army need to die before fatigue in army sets in and the boys refuse to go for getting slaughtered?

All bcaz the failed marshal is busy in Iranian and KSA affairs, rather than fixing the issues at home first. SERIOUSLY Asim needs to come back and sort out this shit at home first. This is the result when these chiefs become unaccountable and can't even be removed for shit performance.....

 

[Oscar]

Haha, there we go lumping anyone who supports PTI into the same old boat. Cult this, cult that. That's all you know Oscar. You have started talking like the LLMs you favour.

Do you want a toffee from me that you criticised the army a little bit, now that its a safe thing to do on this forum?

"or maybe you the typical variety who just like the same faujis who birthed your leader going to resort to threats and violence - seekha hi yehi hai."

Oh come on mate, give this line up. You should know better. PTI was created long before I was born. Army didn't hold his hand till like 2010, then they abandoned the project somewhere in 2020 when the honeymoon ended. My family was one of the few that would support him when he was still the anti-NATO "Taliban Khan" .

Once again - No coherent argument from you other than usual cultist
"I need an enemy".

No good arguments - just low level bazari bs.

But makes sense considering the family history - its religious inherited belief - not informed choice.

Hence - CULT.

PTI wasnt created long before I was born so its not some religious belief - I saw the genesis in front of me - and its downfall too.

Also - I would skip toffees - adults dont carry those around in their pocket - grow up.

 

[Oscar]

What is your definition of a Cult

Inability to accept that you could be wrong.
Inability to question yourself.

Inability to be able to see ANYTHING other than the exact script.

Which is why I point out many (if not most) support for PTI online is now cult level.

Why?
You can still support someone AND find them at fault -
But you can also support an idea AND tell your leader they are idiots - case in point - Blackberry... they stuck to their idea and we all know where that went.

Apply the same test to what has happened with Afghanistan and do not let the establishment have ANY quarter - they are primary authors of this mess.

But, according to Imran Khan - if the Taliban come to power - it will all be settled.

Until 2020 - there was an ACTUAL decline in terrorism - by 2021- forget the anti Imran movement which Bajra and co did not initiate until autumn. While the Taliban were "taking over" and PTI was selling brand Imran on trips with him driving around or giving UN speeches. He was there in power - supported - when the TTA sat in Doha and he was fully supportive of it.
That year in 2020 - during the PANDEMIC - 150 TTP attacks happened - no one was removing Imran Khan then. But him, Faiz and Shiekhoo were busy with "good taliban" and "bad taliban".

THE DAY HE MADE THAT STATEMENT "Free from the shackles of slavery" - the day TTA broke out ALL TTP prisoners who then took oath with TTA and Pakistani blood spilling started skyrocketing.

Imran is NOT the only one to blame - this was Faiz and Co wing of the establishment and the culmination of Hamid Gul's ideals coming home to roost.

BUT, just as the establishment and their cultists refuse to ever accept their misreads or mistakes - be it Op Gibraltar or Kargil - so do the PTI cultists.

The definition of a cultist is that they think everyone except them is wrong - and any support for them has to be absolute.

They will offer excuses
"He had no power"
"the establishment sabotaged it"
"Things changed"

The man had enough power to appoint an unqualified idiot as chief minister of the largest province because his lady mellisandre favored him but he was a eunuch when it came to foreign policy?

So then should we then conclude that the man was in essence a weak leader because he could not bring in the actual change and was beholden to "the Boss!"?

When your religion - its core text ASKS you to examine - to reflect upon the teachings- interrogate it, ask why, ask when, ask how - and you don't apply it there, then what can be expected of politics or your social interactions and culture?

This has and will be my entire argument.

I dont expect many to follow or understand or even budge - if anything education makes cultism worse because now you find ways to bend information to meet your belief. It is motivated reasoning at work - they will do whatever they can to find conspiracy, semantics or plain whataboutism to dismiss the point.

It gets worse online- why?
Because an account that has spent years upon years proving that the cipher was real - Imran Khan was a prophet in terms of his insight - cannot suddenly question something and lose that praise, those likes - that demotion in front of their X followers, whatsapp group or family.

They will happily remake a theory, rehash it - fix it up - then EVER admit that their party, their line was wrong - it is not in their character.

That is the definition of a cult.

This Ai stuff is cool. I just ask Ai to do me.

Yes it is - at least it can be objective unlike humans who dismiss anything that doesn't meet their beliefs.

 

[Xestan]

Military understood the dynamics and chose the better option. It wasn't about Haqqani praying with who but rather keeping at the very least part of the belligerent on our side...
Moreover, Haqqani had foot soldiers from Punjab as well. So he had that pan islamic camaraderie in his ranks making him a good candidate to pitch support. There could have also been a serious back lash because of this.
A secular nationalistic Afghanistan is a more dangerous entity than a Islamic Emirate.

What we could not have expected were Islamic Nationalism in the sense of racial supremacy.

Only way to stabilize Afghanistan is to have a separate govt in the North.

Data disagrees with you. Taliban government in Afghanistan has reignited TTP, which was on a low burner during Ashraf Ghani government post Zarb-e-Azb.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[muz]

 

[muz]

Lund leaguer went into mute mode for this particular question

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Agree. The border should be heavily monitored and blocked. The free access in and out of Pakistan will cripple the nation.

I would add that whole the Afghans are being helped to go back to their great country, ask those in KP to go with them too who post on focial media that zhey prefer dogs in Afghanistan over punjabis.

I mean, rest of Pakistanis should make sure that these dog lovers are not separated.

tjese fog lovers are providing inzel and hiding places in KP to launch attacks on schools army bases mosques and markets.

 

[muz]

Inability to accept that you could be wrong.
Inability to question yourself.

Inability to be able to see ANYTHING other than the exact script.

Which is why I point out many (if not most) support for PTI online is now cult level.

Why?
You can still support someone AND find them at fault -
But you can also support an idea AND tell your leader they are idiots - case in point - Blackberry... they stuck to their idea and we all know where that went.

Apply the same test to what has happened with Afghanistan and do not let the establishment have ANY quarter - they are primary authors of this mess.

But, according to Imran Khan - if the Taliban come to power - it will all be settled.

Until 2020 - there was an ACTUAL decline in terrorism - by 2021- forget the anti Imran movement which Bajra and co did not initiate until autumn. While the Taliban were "taking over" and PTI was selling brand Imran on trips with him driving around or giving UN speeches. He was there in power - supported - when the TTA sat in Doha and he was fully supportive of it.
That year in 2020 - during the PANDEMIC - 150 TTP attacks happened - no one was removing Imran Khan then. But him, Faiz and Shiekhoo were busy with "good taliban" and "bad taliban".

THE DAY HE MADE THAT STATEMENT "Free from the shackles of slavery" - the day TTA broke out ALL TTP prisoners who then took oath with TTA and Pakistani blood spilling started skyrocketing.

Imran is NOT the only one to blame - this was Faiz and Co wing of the establishment and the culmination of Hamid Gul's ideals coming home to roost.

BUT, just as the establishment and their cultists refuse to ever accept their misreads or mistakes - be it Op Gibraltar or Kargil - so do the PTI cultists.

The definition of a cultist is that they think everyone except them is wrong - and any support for them has to be absolute.

They will offer excuses
"He had no power"
"the establishment sabotaged it"
"Things changed"

The man had enough power to appoint an unqualified idiot as chief minister of the largest province because his lady mellisandre favored him but he was a eunuch when it came to foreign policy?

So then should we then conclude that the man was in essence a weak leader because he could not bring in the actual change and was beholden to "the Boss!"?

When your religion - its core text ASKS you to examine - to reflect upon the teachings- interrogate it, ask why, ask when, ask how - and you don't apply it there, then what can be expected of politics or your social interactions and culture?

This has and will be my entire argument.

I dont expect many to follow or understand or even budge - if anything education makes cultism worse because now you find ways to bend information to meet your belief. It is motivated reasoning at work - they will do whatever they can to find conspiracy, semantics or plain whataboutism to dismiss the point.

It gets worse online- why?
Because an account that has spent years upon years proving that the cipher was real - Imran Khan was a prophet in terms of his insight - cannot suddenly question something and lose that praise, those likes - that demotion in front of their X followers, whatsapp group or family.

They will happily remake a theory, rehash it - fix it up - then EVER admit that their party, their line was wrong - it is not in their character.

That is the definition of a cult.


Yes it is - at least it can be objective unlike humans who dismiss anything that doesn't meet their beliefs.

It has been almost 4+ years since he is out of office still everything that is the problem in Pakistan is his fault
Your post is an indirect way of giving lumber 1 a pass even after they hoarded so much power in civilian government still are unable to come up with a coherent plan to take out or at least minimize TTP and BLA half ass ops into afghanistan with no clear goals while they have become so confident that they launch frankenstein suicide drones in our airspace economy is a complete mess petrols rates keep rising while the lund leaguers cooks up a new excuse everyday last but not least signed a pact with the saudis when we have such a big internal mess now we are bound by it to support or even directly participate in their Yemen adventure
The only saving grace is a brief diplomatic win in some areas but as saying goes Peace/stability abroad does not mean peace and stability at home
And as for your point that PTI supporters does not own up to their mistakes they do and try to have their constituents try to rectify it
that is all

 

[ghazi52]

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