Opinion: India Pakistan near conflict - Escalation management non-existent

[Pradotlc]

It seems as sabre rattling is going on at a much heightened level from both sides. It also seems as what's coming from India on its media and by its leadership is an all out war, without escalation protocols in place. We'll go deep inside recent events from both sides and open mentions of "war soon" narrative on world media.

Since India has been losing its credibility all over the globe on various issues, it might start to think that the only option to "change world media's attention" is to initiate the "paused" conflict with Pakistan. Just like their air chief started a false narrative of destroying Pakistani jets, just to turn media's attention away.

It is also important to note, Pakistan's economy is almost ready for a vertical flight in the next couple of years with US becoming the largest strategic export and economic partner. In just 3-4 years time, Pakistan's GDP will start to rebalance with its internal efforts on reforms. Therefore, with the GDP increase, will come big increases in defense budgets. So for India, to manage Pakistan in a much stronger capacity with near $20 billion defense budget will become extremely hard. That's why the current timing helps them from this side too.

It should be considered that this time, that India, on purpose, will not listen to Trump or anyone because they have to PROVE to the world that they are a big power without care for any other country. This is a dangerous territory and it almost certainly could mean a nuclear exchange as Pakistan doesn't have strategic depth and secondly, our forces are 1/3rd the size of India. Now to assess how this situation is unfolding, we will start to analyze recent events and statements as they all seem towards war preparations:

Indian Army Chief made media address in a seminar two days ago and said:

1) Next India - Pakistan conflict will happen soon. War is on a pause. No ceasefire. Either side can fire one or salvo of missiles when they want to resume the conflict.

2) Pak Army: A few days ago said, we'll start from the East this time

3) Indian media constantly mentions nuclear installations suggesting India Pakistan can attack each other's nuclear installations because the agreement not to do that, was set back in the 80's when both sides weren't nuclear powers. So at this time, India feels a war is a war.

4) Indian media hype on a next generation Bunker Buster bomb to be used with its missiles. They have previously mentioned trying to attack an area with Brahmos called "Kerana hills" near Sargodha where they think Pakistan has its strategic weapons. This new bunker buster bomb is for deep penetration into such under ground areas.

5) Modi said: A "new" normal has been established, referring to strategic missile use.

6) Pakistan Army Chief and the Army: This time, we'll start from the East and move West. Referring to Indian states with more economic and warfare resources they've kept away from the border.

unless hindu RSS cancer is not eliminated there will never be peace in the region.

 

[falcon34]

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Well well it beginsz though I don't take this shiv clown seriously but the way they are admitting a casualty tells u all about it

 

[RajaBaja]

unless hindu RSS cancer is not eliminated there will never be peace in the region.

This is the shortest one line summary I couldn't come up with. Yes, It's the RSS / Hindutva mindset causing all this drama.

Obviously, we can't "eliminate" a nation. But there should be a mechanism where the world needs to sit down and root out religious intolerance based conflicts, or, put serious trade penalties if a country engages in wars with another based on their "religious supremacy" mindset .

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Well well it beginsz though I don't take this shiv clown seriously but the way they are admitting a casualty tells u all about it

That's how the minds are made, 1, 2, 10 start and then it's talked about on shows and then you have 80% Hindu nation behind it because Modi / RSS have memorized them the formula:

Revenge from Pakistan = Revenge for Mughal rule + Revenge for Hindutva to lose a millennium + Revenge for 1947 divide + Revenge for terrorism (even if its done internally) + Hindutva to look like a super power

 

[Pradotlc]

This is the shortest one line summary I couldn't come up with. Yes, It's the RSS / Hindutva mindset causing all this drama.

Obviously, we can't "eliminate" a nation. But there should be a mechanism where the world needs to sit down and root out religious intolerance based conflicts, or, put serious trade penalties if a country engages in wars with another based on their "religious supremacy" mindset .



That's how the minds are made, 1, 2, 10 start and then it's talked about on shows and then you have 80% Hindu nation behind it because Modi / RSS have memorized them the formula:

Revenge from Pakistan = Revenge for Mughal rule + Revenge for Hindutva to lose a millennium + Revenge for 1947 divide + Revenge for terrorism (even if its done internally) + Hindutva to look like a super power

it was always there... people forget (ie indians) it was RSS that murdered Gandhi.

 

[Pradotlc]

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Well well it beginsz though I don't take this shiv clown seriously but the way they are admitting a casualty tells u all about it

fake newj

the border has been frozen quiet since Musharraf days


it is high time you people stop lying

the Junta in Pakistan is busy making it self good infront the americans.... I have seen no evidence from any neutral sources that Pakistan is fueling the freedom struggle in Kashmir.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If the Pakistani security establishment is really serious, it needs to be very careful not to fall in the american traps. Trump cozying up to Pakistan can change at any time once their interest is no longer there. Remember they were all onboard when india launched its attack on our soil, so their true intentions will always be to hurt Pak when the chance presents itself. Remember they will always be trying to contain China which goes against our strategic and economic interests. A prosperous and strong Pakistan is a nightmare for the zionists in usa and israel and russia and also for the extremist hindutva in india. They all want every muslim country to be weak, destroyed and slave and bow to them.

We will suffer heavy price if we still go the "showing restraint" and "acting maturely" and trying to earn brownie points from the west (its practically useless). Remember they will always try to discourage us from taking out the enemy, like they did in May 2025 they protected their little bitch from destruction by forcing Pakistan to show restraints (thru arabs, thru iran, thru usa) only so they can tweak the weaknesses found and bolster that.

the enemy learned that the brahmos missile did wonders for them as it penetrated and hit our cities. Next time they will use those and also try to target our seaport and karachi as thats our economic engine and trade route. They are emboldened by the brahmos capability. Not to forget, Russia will always assist them as they're still licking the wounds from the USSR breakup and they haven't forgotten what we did to them in afghanistan. The Quran is very clear: none of them are our friends. Anyone pretending to be a buddy is only in it for financial interests.
The world economy and developed west has stagnated to full. Now the zionists and global elites will trigger wars and destruction(in the name of population reduction) so like it or not, war will come now n it will be devastating.
Pakistan has to accept why it came into existence which is to counter the extremist india and also to aid the 2nd coming of Prophet Isa AS and Imam Mahdi in the end times. Its now upto our people to accept this and be ready. :ife is no longer about chilling and enjoying 80-odd yrs on this earth......that time has passed.
You only guarantee peace when your enemy is deadscared from your destructive capacity.......which india has not experienced yet. The restraints shown have only emboldened them for the next round.

That's what many here are not realising. HAD India been able to successfully take on Pakistan during operation sindoor, the war would still have been continuing with FULL american, western, israeli and russian support. IF india attacks Pakistan again and starts winning the war THIS TIME, america would SWITCH and FULLY support/back india. Their relationship would go back to pre-indian military defeat to Pakistan in May 2025.
YES, none of these goreh are Pakistan's friend and we can NEVER EVER trust them. Not america, russia or any other goreh nation. russians and israelis/jews share the same racial heritage. Most Middle Eastern nations miss this point. It's great that russia has been exposed as a paper tiger by the ukraine war.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Yes. Next war will be Brahmos + Drones + S-400's + Navy firing Brahmos or other missiles. All this will be done at stand off ranges. The math the Indians did is very simple. 1 lost Rafale costs $ 200+ million dollars plus global embarrassment. So keep them away. For 1 Rafale, you could get 100 Brahmos, with 25%+ target hit rate and no embarrassment.

We just need to plan it correctly, upgrade the Navy on urgent basis, put a 3 layered AD in place similar to theirs and acquire more J-10C's. J-35 is existed, would come in real handy. But it's guess work right now.

Part of the next approach is fill the gaps in the AD network for sure, and also more J10CE's to fill in the gaps, but also the approach for the next round, is to impose a significant cost to India, both economically and also to India's "pride" even further. Pakistan has to some extent addressed this by stating that the conflict will start from the "east", where East is not from Bangladesh, but closer to India's industrial / military centres. i.e. to hit New Delhi to remove the aura of invulnerability the decision makers have and for those to be equally as visible for the locals to see. I will remind everyone, that India attacked installations in Islamabad.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Part of the next approach is fill the gaps in the AD network for sure, and also more J10CE's to fill in the gaps, but also the approach for the next round, is to impose a significant cost to India, both economically and also to India's "pride" even further. Pakistan has to some extent addressed this by stating that the conflict will start from the "east", where East is not from Bangladesh, but closer to India's industrial / military centres. i.e. to hit New Delhi to remove the aura of invulnerability the decision makers have and for those to be equally as visible for the locals to see. I will remind everyone, that India attacked installations in Islamabad.

We DEFINITELY have to mass hit indian civilian and economic targets. That is one of the FEW ways the indians will stop their attacks against Pakistan.

 

[Terracotta Warrior]

unless hindu RSS cancer is not eliminated there will never be peace in the region.

RSS backed BJP in power since 2014.. so peacful were we between 1947 till 2014. By the way it was BJP who initiated Lahore Visit, Agra Summit or inviting Pak PM in 2014 or Modi going to pakistan afther that..

 

[Pradotlc]

RSS backed BJP in power since 2014.. so peacful were we between 1947 till 2014. By the way it was BJP who initiated Lahore Visit, Agra Summit or inviting Pak PM in 2014 or Modi going to pakistan afther that..

BJP and RSS are not the same

RSS initiated the Gujrat riots, Samjota Express bombing, etc the list is long and distinguished

 

[Liquidator]

- not an intended total annihilation of Pakistan.

Disagree

The kufaar would like nothing more than to turn you into Gaza.

The recent conflict was planned alongside Israel. Luckily for you, India FAILED its part of the bargain. Had they have succeeded (in diminishing PAF via their 70+ fighter aircraft strike package) it would have laid the groundwork for others to chip in.

The plan was to take out Iran and Pakistan in one go.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Disagree

The kufaar would like nothing more than to turn you into Gaza.

The recent conflict was planned alongside Israel. Luckily for you, India FAILED its part of the bargain. Had they have succeeded (in taking out PAF via their 70+ fighter aircraft strike package) it would have laid the groundwork for others to chip in.

The plan was to take out Iran and Pakistan in one go....

Most have either forgotten or missed this fact. The indians were planning a MASSIVE invasion and destruction of Pakistan. Many prominent and powerful indians were publicly proclaiming that they will do to Pakistan what the israelis are doing to the Palestinians in Gaza and that they have the support of america, the west, israel and russia. But something BIG and DESTRUCTIVE happened to the indians which made them back off big time and beg trump for a ceasefire. Pakistan has MASSIVE and OVERWHELMING military capabilities that hardly ANYONE knows about. Not even on PDF. It strikes fear into the hearts of 1.5 billion indians and keeps them in line despite having massive advantages over Pakistan.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

BJP and RSS are not the same

RSS initiated the Gujrat riots, Samjota Express bombing, etc the list is long and distinguished

They are all the SAME hideously ugly hindutva scum that want the genocide of the Pakistani nation and people. The ONLY thing us Pakistanis need to know about them is how to annihilate and wipe them off the face of the universe. NOTHING else.

 

[muz]

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[Sakib]