PAF Future Acquisition Plans

[Zarvan]

Indian defense budget is larger than UK defense budget and even larger than french or Germans too

Indian issue is not two three four billion dollars it's what technology and learns Indian DRDO likely to make

In addition purchase of Tempest by Iaf is not linked to India getting involved in it's development

UK will sell Tempest if India wants it
No issue there

So if and when J31 arrives in Pakistan be sure any of the Improved Su57 from Russia or Tempest or Fcas France USA F35 are all realistic options

Especially if Amca is delayed beyond 2040

Also look at size of Indian Army, Para Military, Navy and Air Force. So yes and no.

 

[harpy1]

Also look at size of Indian Army, Para Military, Navy and Air Force. So yes and no.

The question was does India have a lack of finances stopping them potentially from buying a fifth gen option in the near future if they desperately needed too.
Especially if j31 arrives soon

The answer is categorical.yes there several options brewing outside of Amca if India needed too from Europe Russia or USA ....far more options than PAF

 

[studsmart]

Indian defense budget is larger than UK defense budget and even larger than french or Germans too

Indian issue is not two three four billion dollars it's what technology and learns Indian DRDO likely to make

In addition purchase of Tempest by Iaf is not linked to India getting involved in it's development

UK will sell Tempest if India wants it
No issue there

So if and when J31 arrives in Pakistan be sure any of the Improved Su57 from Russia or Tempest or Fcas France USA F35 are all realistic options

Especially if Amca is delayed beyond 2040

So India will end up buying off the shelf product ... What happened to local tech, design and production... kSA at one time has more money than India and they still might .... Their air force is full of top of the line typhoon and eagles. Are they as effective as IAF ?


Mr. .... Money don't buy everything... Till you have local talent to indigenize it or adopt it .... which Russian , or any European fighter has dominated the world affairs in last 30 years .... None

 

[studsmart]

The question was does India have a lack of finances stopping them potentially from buying a fifth gen option in the near future if they desperately needed too.
Especially if j31 arrives soon

The answer is categorical.yes there several options brewing outside of Amca if India needed too from Europe Russia or USA ....far more options than PAF

Please buy one and then talk. Pakistan is having one coming in very soon

 

[harpy1]

Hi,

The US has been extremely desperate to sell the F-35 to india---but the indians don't like the " kill switch " or the " performance control capability " in the hands of the americans---.

Indian plans are clear
Rafale F5 wingman drones by 2030
Amca 2040
Or delay then Fcas from France or Tempest UK
F35 for navy maybe if USA India relations keep rising

Predators drones now coming 4 billion dollars confirmed so USA equipment is rising

 

[studsmart]

Indian plans are clear
Rafale F5 wingman drones by 2030
Amca 2040
Or delay then Fcas from France or Tempest UK
F35 for navy maybe if USA India relations keep rising

Predators drones now coming 4 billion dollars confirmed so USA equipment is rising

Awesome news but more but always be afraid of your neighbors

 

[studsmart]

Coming soon lol

Yes LOL that is all u can do from super duper su30 till date now all your talks are just pipe dream. If u have so much influence and money why don't your government announce buying everything available to buy. Lol like said first buy and then say a word till then just shut up . IAF buy this or that but in reality they buy rafel F3 lemon

 

[Readerdefence]

Hi,
PAF is not in a hurry to induct stealth J31/35
As we look around the history PAF always induct
Something to comparable to eastern front when it’s in dire need of it
Beside a super power has start whispering in Indian ears that they have to tackle china too
Though IAF chief and IA chief always say about two front war at the end only one front remain, though all these latest acquisitions by india is according to USA towards Northern front
So as I’m writing at the moment PAF is not that much in discomfort towards the eastern border
So J31 or whatever J it is will come when the time is right for it
Little of topic at the moment before J31/35 PA is in need of Z10, as there isn’t any USA helicopter coming towards Pakistani side
Thank you

 

[Deino]

Finally a realistic and accurate - at least no longer the old FC-31V1-styled and totally deformed model we know since years - FC-31 scale model on display at the World Defense Show 2024 in Riyadh.

 

[CSAW]

 

[guangdongt]

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The side of the plane looks like a mature version of FC31 2.0

 

[Deino]

Another image of the FC-31 model shown at Riyadh together with some interesting and interested guests from Malaysia as it seems.(Image via @猪霸苍穹 from Weibo)

 

[Awwad]

Because that is the official PAF plans. KAAN is our own project now. KAAN will be produced in Pakistan. And J-31 will be bought from China. And 6th Generation are really far away. J-31 is coming now and KAAN will join us in 6 to 8 years. @nahtanbob We know about the costs but it seems you have no clue how many inductions which we have done in last few decades trust if we look at our officially announced budget none of them would make sense to you.

I think my effort to explain the devastating economic crisis due to these mega billion dollar imports on fragile economy didn't paid off. You are saying that aquisitions in last decade don't make sense according to official budget. Well it all makes sense perfectly seeing how the economy is nose dived. You are suggesting, that the defence budget is even more then what's displayed but still if you are unable to pay upfront then its even worse as you will pay with heavy interest over the years and decades.

Now when PAF has selected J-31, I don't see any supply chain, any logistic, any financial or any wildest possibility of KAAN in PAF inventory in next 10 years. For next 10-15 years KAAN is going to use American engine anyways. Which is impossible to get for PAF in the first place. KAAN may enter into PAF service much later than what you are anticipating.

 

[Quwa]

Finally a realistic and accurate - at least no longer the old FC-31V1-styled and totally deformed model we know since years - FC-31 scale model on display at the World Defense Show 2024 in Riyadh.

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So, do you reckon that this is the frozen design for the J-31 the PAF is talking about? Whenever AVIC marketed the product, they always pointed to this sub-variant and never alluded to the J-35 as a factor (IIRC). You had also asked about who'd fund the J-31's development; I think it may be Beijing and Beijing alone. There's a big potential market for ITAR-free NGFAs, not only in Pakistan, but Egypt, Algeria, Iraq, KSA, and UAE too.

 

[MastanKhan]

I think my effort to explain the devastating economic crisis due to these mega billion dollar imports on fragile economy didn't paid off. You are saying that aquisitions in last decade don't make sense according to official budget. Well it all makes sense perfectly seeing how the economy is nose dived. You are suggesting, that the defence budget is even more then what's displayed but still if you are unable to pay upfront then its even worse as you will pay with heavy interest over the years and decades.

Now when PAF has selected J-31, I don't see any supply chain, any logistic, any financial or any wildest possibility of KAAN in PAF inventory in next 10 years. For next 10-15 years KAAN is going to use American engine anyways. Which is impossible to get for PAF in the first place. KAAN may enter into PAF service much later than what you are anticipating.

Hi,

15 years from now would be a reasonable time..