Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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The corrosion on them must be insane. It take a lot of time and resources to maintain missiles, its why most nations that do have conventional missiles only have a few thousand at most.

These were not maintained since the collapse of the communist afghan government. There is very little chance they work.

Plus, how are they gonna fuel them?
 
Pakistan, in the meantime, also accepted millions of Afghans as refugees and hosted them in the country for several generations. Thes Afghans had all the freedom to move around in Pakistan, establish large businesses, buy real-states, get modern education, and whatnot. After the current gang of criminals, under the leadership a ignorant fool Hibatullah, came to power in Afghanistan, the Afghan refugees were supposed to return to their country; they didn’t and neither the government of Pakistan forced them to do so. Pakistan decided to send these Afghanistanis back only after the government of Pakistan, to its horror, found that many of these ‘refugees’ are involved in heinous crimes, terrorist activities, and large-scale smuggling, especially of dollars to Afghanistan, systematically trying to weaken Pakistan from inside. The state of Pakistan then started showing some seriousness in dealing with the Afghan plague.

Pakistan, as recently mentioned by Pak defense minister, has made numerous attempts to engage the Taliban regime for addressing Pakistan’s concerns but to no avail. If anything, more and more Afghan nationals were sent to Pakistan for suicide bombings and an evil alliance with India rapidly emerged. That alliance appears solely to target Pakistan with large scale terrorist attacks on Pakistan’s western border and military aggression of eastern one.

Pakistan soon realized that all excuses offered by Taliban regime are merely lies and that Pakistan was, in fact, under a coordinated attack from two fronts. Taliban regime is, in fact, consistently pursuing the decades’ old goal to occupy Pakistan’s territory and finds the current times quite opportune for realizing that dream. What Pakistan does with any Indian aggression is another topic but the time for dealing with this consistently lingering issue of greater Afghanistan is now. The only question is how far Pakistan should go.
The real question, however, is if successive Afghan governments and regimes have never accepted the Durand line as the international Pak-Afghan border, why should Pakistan keep insisting on that?

The Durand line was a suitable boundary between the then British Indian government and Kabul rulers and that may not be true in the current times. The Durand line, in fact, is not suitable boundary that can serve as the Pak-Afghan international border under the new geostrategic ground realities. It is difficult to defend and indeed seems to be an arbitrary line. It must be adjusted so that it appears to be a more natural border between the two countries. It then comes to the question who can change it by negotiations or by force, depending on whatever suits the situation.

Given all the overt attacks with Afghan lashkars and Taliban regime’s covert terrorist war imposed on Pakistan, Pakistan is indeed justified to adjust the Durand line by pushing it back to turn in into a natural boundary by using, for example, a river bank or a desert side, and declare it the new Pak-Afghan border.

Let the negotiations then start from that point rather than from the status of Durand line. Let’s see how brave Afghans are as they claim to have a history of 500 years.
 
Talks will fail or even if some agreement is reached, Taliban cannot control TTP. India has invested a hell lot in Taliban and TTP.
Sir it means ...we will have to face two fronts onwards.....India successfully managed to replicate its own two front threat on Pakistan?
 
I wonder how pragmatic the afghan's are with respect to Indian involvement or assistance

Indians of course know better than to invest too much or create too many dependencies with the Taliban, knowing that one day it could spiral out of their control


Furthermore, both sides have made serious ideological compromises to meet with the other.

To realise upside more than just nuisance level will require quite a bit of time and investment

If this alliance just fades away it will kind of leave both sides feeling empty.....
It helps that they have a common enemy which they want to see break apart.

After that? Allah knows best.
 
India will help Taliban use SCUDS, not Russia.

India will arrange parts and other related equipment from black market or other sources to make them operational.

We saw how we were able to detect and track small Indian military vectors with the help of China and its satellites during the May war, so, since we also have a massive network of spies/moles inside Afghanistan, wouldn't there be a case where, with HUMINT, SIGINT, and aerial ISR, our forces might detect them, track them through IMINT/sat support, and then just bomb the crap out of the stockpile/launcher locations with SOWs?
 
The corrosion on them must be insane. It take a lot of time and resources to maintain missiles, its why most nations that do have conventional missiles only have a few thousand at most.

These were not maintained since the collapse of the communist afghan government. There is very little chance they work.

Plus, how are they gonna fuel them?
Think about electronics and guidance.
 
The corrosion on them must be insane. It take a lot of time and resources to maintain missiles, its why most nations that do have conventional missiles only have a few thousand at most.

These were not maintained since the collapse of the communist afghan government. There is very little chance they work.

Plus, how are they gonna fuel them?
Nothing is left to chance in war planning by Pakistan, all factors (threat, political, social impact, retaliation) are taken into account.
 
The real question, however, is if successive Afghan governments and regimes have never accepted the Durand line as the international Pak-Afghan border, why should Pakistan keep insisting on that?

Because it's the foundation for ties based on mutual respect.

Pakistan has mismanaged them for decades. Skirted around the difficult conversations.

Now we are getting to to crux of the matter finally and giving them are you with us or against us proposition.
 
Think about electronics and guidance.
Plus. Even with those, scuds are notoriously inaccurate, and were meant as weapons to be used on mass to blanket a general area.

And these are Soviet era scuds, not the upgraded shit the Russians are putting out, which makes it worse for the Afghans.
 
so we like it or not war is the only option
War is too harsh of a word but yes kinetic action in Afghanistan will be required. It's clear GHQ has made its mind as well. Kinetic action will happen in Afghanistan regardless of Afghan approval. Best outcome is tacit Afghan approval for airstrikes however.
 
Plus. Even with those, scuds are notoriously inaccurate, and were meant as weapons to be used on mass to blanket a general area.

And these are Soviet era scuds, not the upgraded shit the Russians are putting out, which makes it worse for the Afghans.
The electronics would be busted after 40-50 years.
 
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