Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[El Sidd]

Off topic and I hope the moderators will allow one final post.
Facts and the history of the cruelty wrought by a savage enemy in our nation must be told,
We must examine the conditions prevailing in Pakistan to understand why medical care even to the Founding Father of the nation was inadequate.
In late 1948 Pakistan was completely and utterly bankrupt and was officially a failed state, with a worthless currency that was merely rubber stamped demonetized British Government of India bank notes,
The industries of British ruled India were mainly in the areas that remained in India. Pakistan was a tribal, agricultural economy and after independence was militarily attacked, sanctioned and blockaded literally into the stone age.
Pakistan was critically short of medical supplies, and doctors, and the hospitals were rendered useless without power, or functioning ambulances. There was no funding to import these. Hundreds of thousands of babies and pregnant women; millions of sick, and elderly ( including injured refugees from India), perished because of lack of medical care.This was a fearful toll, far worse than the Coronavirus pandemic of 2020-21 .
It was not just civilians, but ill equipped army personnel fighting a war unleashed by a seven times superior well armed enemy in the freezing mountains of Kashmir who also suffered from lack of medical and surgical care.
Tens of thousands of soldiers died in those fateful months because their injuries couldn't be treated in the gutted Army hospitals.The official civilian and military toll due to the embargo on medical supplies has never been counted or acknowledged by any government since 1947.
The pain of those who suffered has been recounted by the survivors of the horror. My family personally suffered in those fateful months There was only one female gynecologist in the then East Pakistan and in the primitive conditions of the filthy Dhaka hospital labor room, she performed a cesarean section without adequate anesthesia on my aunt, She delivered the baby, but my aunt died of infection and trauma. Shortly afterwards this gynecologist herself died because there was no one to deliver her baby.
Medical conditions in Pakistan were primitive, so primitive that even the Qaid e Azam could not be given adequate treatment for his medical condition.
Pakistan's ambassador to the USA had received an offer from the US government offering assistance to fly the Quaid-e Azam Jinnah to the USA for treatment. A special long range aircraft would be provided by the USA. Qaid-e-Azam Jinnah refused saying he couldn't put such a burden of expenses on his bankrupt nation. (Note: This incident has been recounted by Air Commodore Khalid Chishti in a recent interview )
On the Jinnah monument:
It is ironic that the mausoleum of the Qaid-e-Azam is far more elegant and beautiful than Nehru's own memorial which is frequently vandalized by Hindutva fascists.
it is equally ironic that if as claimed Pakistan's Founding Father, wasn't honored in his last days, India's Founding Father Mr. Mohandas Karamchand fared far worse with three bullets in his head ( said to be punishment for getting some funds released to Pakistan).
The most ironic of all is the fact that Nehru and Gandhi are both cursed today by their own people and their monuments, statues and memorials vandalized globally, The Qaid e Azam's memorials have so far escaped vandalism

Stop falling for these chatgpt Phishing baits. Use your time constructively.

 

[Starlord]

Bhai, if they couldn’t impress us with 36, what will they do with 114? By the time they actually get it, we’ll have already inducted a force multiplier.

You do realize that 130-140 Rafale's are no joke right? Please tell you understand that cause if you don't I have some serious concerns about Pakistan's safety lol

 

[Maarkhoor]

Some desperate delusional Indians on Reddit and X are claiming - 8 months later - that they have found PAF F-16 debris. Absolute nonsense.

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They're claiming off this video. Just look at the fools in the comments.

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Previously, they were only experiencing delusions; now they have crossed the threshold into a psychotic illness it happen when a person is lying deliberately but as time pass he starts believing that his / her lies are true.

 

[Khanivore]

Previously, they were only experiencing delusions; now they have crossed the threshold into a psychotic illness.

Yep, delusional psychosis. So obviously clear.

 

[Maarkhoor]

You do realize that 130-140 Rafale's are no joke right? Please tell you understand that cause if you don't I have some serious concerns about Pakistan's safety lol

We know and ready remember when they start inducting Ra-Phales, we have already inducted J10 CE so be patient.

This time also won't disappoint them aswell "Maza na aye tou paisey wapis".

 

[Baibers_1260]

Stop falling for these chatgpt Phishing baits. Use your time constructively.

Thanks for the compliment. It took me one hour and 55 minutes to research and write the piece. My time was worth it for the compliment I received from you.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Thanks for the compliment. It took me one hour and 55 minutes to research and write the piece. My time was worth it for the compliment I received from you.

Keep the good work and even if for spell and grammar check you use A.I we never mind.

 

[El Sidd]

Thanks for the compliment. It took me one hour and 55 minutes to research and write the piece. My time was worth it for the compliment I received from you.

It took 3 minutes for his chatgpt to churn out that garbage. You think he will read your post and reflect upon it? Bet you a 'Saint's' gaddi?

 

[Starlord]

We know and ready remember when they start inducting Ra-Phales, we have already inducted J10 CE so be patient.

This time also won't disappoint them aswell "Maza na aye tou paisey wapis".

Again you understand that Threat perception of 36 vs 130+ Rafale is far greater right? now yes we order 20 J-10CE against 36, but if we are not seeing a conflict until all Rafale out of which many would be latest models is something we should take seriously, ISPR's jokes aside of Maza nai aye tu Paise wapis, its not him who will be flying a 30-60 million asset into a enemy territory with complex AD environment, risking his life, plane and country's reputation.
We all respect PAF and what and how they performed but given how much money IAF and Indians are putting in their defense, specially when they have far more options to buy compared to us we should definitely be cautious, I mean just to see difference in the amount of money what they can put up and compared to what we can put up, 36 Billion dollars is no short amount, like I said its 3+ years of our total budget which they put for 100+ Rafale.

 

[Maarkhoor]

We know and ready remember when they start inducting Ra-Phales, we have already inducted J10 CE so be patient.

This time also won't disappoint them aswell "Maza na aye tou paisey wapis".

Further deal is under deep shadow since Indians are asking source code and TOT for engines so they can use these engines in Tejas MK3 and AMCA and I highly doubt French will agree.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Again you understand that Threat perception of 36 vs 130+ Rafale is far greater right? now yes we order 20 J-10CE against 36, but if we are not seeing a conflict until all Rafale out of which many would be latest models is something we should take seriously, ISPR's jokes aside of Maza nai aye tu Paise wapis, its not him who will be flying a 30-60 million asset into a enemy territory with complex AD environment, risking his life, plane and country's reputation.
We all respect PAF and what and how they performed but given how much money IAF and Indians are putting in their defense, specially when they have far more options to buy compared to us we should definitely be cautious, I mean just to see difference in the amount of money what they can put up and compared to what we can put up, 36 Billion dollars is no short amount, like I said its 3+ years of our total budget which they put for 100+ Rafale.

Bhai you took it too seriously French need 8+ years to deliver that jets plus read my above post.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Keep the good work and even if for spell and grammar check you use A.I we never mind.

Thanks for the compliment . I don't use AI for spelling and grammar check. I rely on multiple edits after reading and re-reading. Old school...Typing with a single finger on the I-Pad (using the left hand to hold it) does cause typo errors, and grammatical omissions. These are detected by re-reading. Showing my age, but I did use a fountain pen ( what's that ? ) to write my essays in class, The mind is a muscle. The more I use it the sharper it gets. I haven't succumbed to AI bots so far.

 

[Starlord]

Bhai you took it too seriously French need 8+ years to deliver that jets plus read my above post.

I am not taking it seriously but I hope the people in Pakistani defense establishment does.

 

[Maarkhoor]

I am not taking it seriously but I hope the people in Pakistani defense establishment does.

Lols this time we will not hold back we will kill as much as we can.

As I said "Maza na aye tou paisey wapis"....

 

[Khanivore]

I am not taking it seriously but I hope the people in Pakistani defense establishment does.

Come on bro. You think PAF was ill-prepared in Feb 2019 and May 2025? They hit the IAF proper HARD enough to make the IAF run away.