Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Respect4Respect]

Yes. And Blair and Pakistani troops main job will be suppressing groups like Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad etc. Israel failed to do this themselves so they have pivoted to hiring Muslims to do it.

The thing is, United states power is declining. They want to ensure that Israel is recognized by the Islamic world before their downfall. Muslim leaders had the option to wait a few more decades for a better deal instead of this disgraceful surrender. For the first time in my life I'm seeing Israel being hated and criticized so widely. Arab leaders have always been cowards but i never imagined Pakistan would stoop so low. If your friends become cucks, you don't follow suit.

 

[Goenitz]

The thing is, United states power is declining. They want to ensure that Israel is recognized by the Islamic world before their downfall. Muslim leaders had the option to wait a few more decades for a better deal instead of this disgraceful surrender. For the first time in my life I'm seeing Israel being hated and criticized so widely. Arab leaders have always been cowards but i never imagined Pakistan would stoop so low. If your friends become cucks, you don't follow suit.

I think Gazan should leave the area without the deal. Declare that area hazardous or a painful memory place but no deal. If neighbours are not happy, Israel will face the music sooner or later. Besides opinion, EU and NATO are exhausted in Ukraine too. But a deal and living at the mercy of an aggressor is imprisonment.

 

[Respect4Respect]

I think Gazan should leave the area without the deal. Declare that area hazardous or a painful memory place but no deal. If neighbours are not happy, Israel will face the music sooner or later. Besides opinion, EU and NATO are exhausted in Ukraine too. But a deal and living at the mercy of an aggressor is imprisonment.

but where would they go then? even these so called Muslims deciding their fate aren't ready to accept them.

 

[Goenitz]

but where would they go then? even these called Muslims deciding their fate aren't ready to accept them.

Technically, Gulf countries don't want Gazans to leave, as that is what Israel wants, a free area to capture. However, when facing such a deal where the border is controlled by the IDF when Hamas' capacity is taken, it is a slow suicide.
That is where we need political consensus for refuge to the Palestinians. The monarchs will also not like them, as Palestinians are politically conscious and question authority.

 

[Respect4Respect]

Technically, Gulf countries don't want Gazans to leave, as that is what Israel wants. A free area to capture. However, when facing such a deal where the border is controlled by IDF while Hamas' capacity is taken, it is better to leave.
That is where we need political consensus to adjust the Palestinians. The monarchs will also not like them as Palestinians are politically active and question authority.

TBH i don't even know how to respond brother, i truly have no words to describe my feelings today, its been such a depressing day. May Allah S.W.T protect the Palestinians and forgive us for being helpless bystanders.

 

[RescueRanger]

I think Gazan should leave the area without the deal.

Would you leave your homeland? Easier said than done. Even so, where would they go? Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon have said they will not accept Palestinians.

Declare that area hazardous or a painful memory place but no deal.

So, then Israel gets what they wanted... They annex the strip... Also remember the first Nakba? What was all that struggle for then?

If neighbours are not happy, Israel will face the music sooner or later.

Except it really wont. If the deaths of 66,055 innocent civilians (conservative estimate) didn't move the world to make Israel "Face the music", if using water, food, rape, and displacement as a weapon of war, didn't move the world to action, if blowing up schools, hospitals, aid relief centres (all buildings protected under international law) didn't move the world to action, if the targeted killing of journalists, doctors and paramedics, didn't move the world... If using reproductive violence by blowing up IVF facilities, didn't move the world to action...

Do you honestly believe the world will do anything once the Palestinians abandon their ancestral homeland and Israel annex's the strip?

Besides opinion, EU and NATO are exhausted in Ukraine too. f

EU nations are enablers in this war. Those RAF tankers flying out of Akrotiri and those Eurofighters running caps aren't there for sightseeing tours. Those Israeli transporters flying to and for Ramstein Air Base aren't collecting Twinkies and care packages.

But a deal and living at the mercy of an aggressor is imprisonment.

So your solution is self-imposed exile?

 

[Starlord]

Is it just me or most of the people who are opposing a deal or fighting to stop in Gaza are nowhere near Gaza or Palestine ? sitting in countries like UK/EU/America they are like yeah Gazan's should keep fighting blah blah, and what's with the fuss about "Surrendering Arms" from Palestinians, like all those AK's and pistols has done any good to them? you can give Gaza the best weapons and they still can't defend the Strip because of its location, If Hamas was fighting in a region like KPK or Balochistan, against IDF they would've make IDF run for their money, but because Gaza is pretty much locked strip with basically nowhere to go or hide or fall back too while civilians are caught in cross fire and become victims of Israel's 2000lbs bombs.

 

[Cash gk]

I agree that apple and pineapple are not the same.

First of all Israel wants its hostages out of this deal.
Then it wants to defang Hamas through Muslim and ISF forces because the IDF failed.
Have you seen that Hamas is still attacking Israeli tanks and the army? These are not highlighted as such due to no news coverage from Gaza.
Israel, in return, bombs Gaza civilians in frustration.
I think Israel is getting tired, so it has taken such measures. No doubt it can massacre more civilians as the US keep supplying weapons and vetoing every resolution. However, the question is:
whether the US is serious or not. If serious, will there be a false flag to give an excuse for another bombing campaign? especially when Hamas's only hostage leverage is gone?

The USA and Israel have lost their credibility as the world's police. Now, assets in Pakistan are stepping in to help them regain it, as their asset ruling the country. Previously, the Arab nations were their major pawns; now, a smaller pawn is assisting in their recovery.
Asim munier and Co does not realize what they are doing its will have consequences for centuries to come

 

[Cash gk]

Is it just me or most of the people who are opposing a deal or fighting to stop in Gaza are nowhere near Gaza or Palestine ? sitting in countries like UK/EU/America they are like yeah Gazan's should keep fighting blah blah, and what's with the fuss about "Surrendering Arms" from Palestinians, like all those AK's and pistols has done any good to them? you can give Gaza the best weapons and they still can't defend the Strip because of its location, If Hamas was fighting in a region like KPK or Balochistan, against IDF they would've make IDF run for their money, but because Gaza is pretty much locked strip with basically nowhere to go or hide or fall back too while civilians are caught in cross fire and become victims of Israel's 2000lbs bombs.

Since 1948, from the first Nakba, they have been massacred. Yet they fought like lions, tearing apart the false myths created by the West and Israel. This was never an accident it was a long-planned scheme to eliminate them, carried out under the shadow of a relentless siege that has lasted for more than 70 years. And in our own struggle, we now see the bitter truth: snakes hidden within our ranks, defending the very oppressors.

 

[Cash gk]

Referring to Palestinians as people only but illegal foreign settlers & occupiers as Israel is despicable. This unelected regime in Pakistan does not represent Pakistani sentiments in any way.

 

[Cash gk]

 

[Cash gk]

Look at another snake

 

[Cash gk]

 

[Cash gk]

 

[Hassan_716]

It breaks my heart to see the very institution that should be defending our ideology allowing things that undermine everything Pakistan stands for...