Pakistan shifts from stabilisation to export-led growth, says finance minister

Fau-jeet Logic , PONZY Judge tola and Mafia Politicians


Capture country, conquer civilian company

1- Sell Airline worth 15 Billion USD (Planes plays/ International hotel Cost)
  • Actual Price 15,000,000,000 USD
  • Sold it for 200,000,000 USD

Loss of : -14,800,000,000 USD

2- End Goal
  • Save losses of 50 Million USD (50,000,000 USD/year)


Now who can explain to Fau-jeet that recovering the loss of 14.8 Billion USD
is not possible for 15 years



Fau-Jeet , 14,800,000,000 USD > 50,000,000 USD
Yar, can you not post utter rubbish please? Your political bias is clearly clouding your judgement.

Who has valued PIA at $15B? Valuation of the airline is done by the demand the market places for it. There are NO takers in the market for it. So where does this $15B come from? Conjured up from thin air?
 
Pakistan Ka hal ye hai , go search on sending Laptop to Pakistan
  • Demanding "40%" Tax and Fees on Laptop Import into Pakistan
    • Duties on suggested price for item
    • Taxes on Old laptop
    • On 10 year old , sh-itty computer
I was laughing then there is also , requirement to register the Machine ID with ministry of f up , to register your laptop for spying and snooping

Go ask about shipping process to Fau-Jeetstan

Go to Chinese E-Commerce , they now have "statement" Pakistani Import process is very tedious can take 20-30 days and lot of fees , while Chinese computers are super cheap

Pakistan should be selling , cheap laptop from China instead market is littered with trash laptops from North America which is almost retirement age


Economic revival my foot

On top of that many countries now have Pakistan listed on "Export ban" for technology, specially related to Advance computing
  • Grouped together with Iran , North Korea

A country with failed Logistics and un-stability who the hell would setup business there ?


I was just wondering at such a wide gap emerging between People who use computers / laptops and Tech vs Children in Pakistan

Pakistan is almost living in Stone Age , accept small % of people who can afford the 1-2 Lac Laptops
 
Last edited:
lol at trade.. pakistan doesn´t care about trade
 
You can't export to Pakistan , a good quality Server / or Laptop Exceeding $2000 USD value , you have to get written permission from some Ministry from Overseas
  • Rule varies for different countries
  • Restricts people to export quality Computers , and only outdated junk Chips and computer are left to export to Pakistan

Note PC/Laptop/Server , near 1400-1500 USD is considered entry level computer/server in Western world, it lasts 5-8 years

So how can any researcher or Student fully utilize their full potential

Or Businesses run a reasonable Business Operation if they don't have necessary advance computing power

Why is Chinese Computing is not visibly present in Pakistan to bring higher quality product at cheaper prices into Market?

Western world children are now exposed to computers from grade 3-4
and exposed to kits to work with none Microsoft OS


In Pakistan people get a laptop near grade 8-9 and even then they are working with outdated computers and software

20 Years ago , Computer Usage was almost same for Youth in Pakistan and Western world with may be 1-2.5 years technology difference which was reasonably close. However the gaps emerging now are almost 6-7 year difference , so future generation won't be able to compete with others
 
Last edited:
Since this thread is about "Export of Goods from Pakistan" to western world
not "imports into Pakistan" , let me just put this in perspective

Pakistani Goods don't reach Western Market shelves
  • Excessive delays at customs , cause fruit and vegetables to not reach markets beyond Middle East
  • The Packaging is mediocre, Indian exporters often have higher quality packaging so you see their products even on Western Supermarkets clearly stating "Made in India"
  • The Falling Currency , reduces the financial benefits from Exports to Pakistan (the falling rupee is due to Debt to Income ratio)
  • If you buy item from Pakistan , it is basically hellish experience of wait and pondering

The world currently Labels Pakistan as a "Refugee state/Indian narrative is Terror state" so any import/export is scrutinized 10x more , resulting in painful delays and difficult conduct for business

Trying getting authorizing to charge credit card payment from Pakistan , often you will get rejected in Western Avenues who simply refuse financial transaction with Pakistan , easily


Considering China has necessary Computing/Financial Transaction /Packaging Machine capabilities the gaps can be filled


The idea of transporting Pakistani Goods overseas with PIA (freight service) is shelved now as the airlines is sold

However , Pakistan's Customs & Logistics is Exceptionally Poor
  • Amazon is doing 1 day delivery in western world , order in night get it in morning
  • Pakistan's buy/sell period or cycle is 30 days of pain and suffering
  • Chinese websites even put down 30-45 days of wait for Pakistan
  • Government Post in western world ships/delivers in 2-3 business days


Pakistan's issues can't be solved by current FAU-JEET Setup they don't have real world experience of working in International Mega Companies


There is culture of Bottle Neck , permission system. Doing something get permission from 1 person , or another person then you wait 10-14 days for it to get approved
 
Last edited:
Yara, I have ask this question of all of you who are applying a very critical eye to this sale.

PIA has been a white elephant out of hell for the GoP for 2+ decades now. The conditions for the sale etc. reflect the environment which sees this white elephant for what it is.

It isn't that the GoP did not want to get many more billions for this sale, it isn't that they WANT to be stuck offering tax incentives and golden retirement packages. It is just that they CANNOT rid of this liability without doing so.

They have gone through multiple auction attempts and there is absolutely NO interest from ANY outsiders who can bring in FDI with this sale.

The local buyers are having to team up to get a viable bid just to even meet the floor for the sell-off.

So why are we *acting* as if investors were tripping over each other to bid for this company? What else can the GoP do except offer insane incentives for some local investors to take this liability off its back? Else, it will continue hemorrhaging Pakistan's limited coffers till eternity with no turn-around in service, sales, profits etc.

I could understand if the criticism was that PIA is a money making machine and the GoP hurried through its sale without due-diligence. Here, it has been a case of over-diligence with no upside on a white elephant that is not making any profits or growing.
I 100% agree with every thing you are saying here, but marketing it as a 135Bn sale when only 10Bn is actually being paid is a blatant lie and an attempt to misguide the public.

Keep in mind that the tax payers & not the new owners, will still have to pay back Rs650Bn worth of PIA loans & liabilities for the next 10-15 years.
 
I 100% agree with every thing you are saying here, but marketing it as a 135Bn sale when only 10Bn is actually being paid is a blatant lie and an attempt to misguide the public.

Keep in mind that the tax payers & not the new owners, will still have to pay back Rs650Bn worth of PIA loans & liabilities for the next 10-15 years.
This should shed light on why GoP gets 10B. While they may get 10B only, they stand to gain from not having to bail out SOEs that require almost 1.58T in subsidies every year (see the part in bold on the horrendous return on this subsidy investment by the GoP). That obviously is not just PIA but PIA is in the top-7.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1963806

More SOEs on the way out?

Mutaher Khan Published December 29, 2025 Updated about 11 hours ago

View of a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) passenger plane, taken through a glass panel, at Islamabad International Airport, Pakistan October 3, 2023. — Reuters/File
https://www.dawn.com/news/print/1963806#comments
https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaMc238IiRov8okfYy3n
Almost two decades after the conversation first started properly, the national carrier was finally sold to Arif Habib Consortium in a publicly televised auction on Dec 23, quite similar to how things happen in the Indian Premier League. But soon after the event, a more pressing debate surfaced. Should we celebrate the Rs135 billion, the bid at which the deal was finalised? Or mourn that the government will only receive Rs10.2bn?

While this entire debate will always be clouded by partisan views, it’s important to address the topic because it’s only going to resurface frequently in the near future. After all, the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) is just one of the many state-owned assets to be sold. In August, the government unveiled an ambitious five-year roadmap targeting 24 state-owned enterprises (SOEs) across three phases. The kickoff began with First Women Bank being sold to a United Arab Emirates firm in October.

In the past, handing over monopolistic businesses to the private sector didn’t eliminate the need for subsidies
So, what is the real worth of these companies? And more importantly, how do you price them in the first place? Maybe the combined value of all the assets they own, whether it’s the aircraft fleet, the land, or some other machinery? Of course, the problem here is that many SOEs own less than what they owe and continue to bleed losses with every passing day.

In FY24, SOEs recorded cumulative revenues of Rs13.5 trillion, doubling from FY21 levels. On the other hand, losses stood at Rs30.6bn, though improving substantially from Rs274.2bn in FY22. However, in both cases, the credit lies squarely with the oil and gas sector, which alone accounted for 60 per cent of the total revenue increase and contributed 85pc of the overall profits, largely on the back of rupee devaluation and higher prices.

The privatisation pipeline

This variation in performance becomes particularly relevant when examining which entities are being privatised and which are being retained. Out of the 24 entities earmarked for privatisation, 20 generated Rs3.87tr in revenues during FY24, representing 29pc of the entire SOE portfolio’s topline. Yet, the same companies posted collective losses of Rs225bn. Without them, the remaining SOE portfolio would have recorded a net profit of Rs195bn.

Within the privatisation pipeline, losses are heavily concentrated in the power sector, adding up to Rs199bn FY24 and boasting four of the five biggest laggards among SOEs. The remaining fifth is, of course, none other than PIA.

In fact, both transport and power sectors exhibit a highly lopsided and unattractive balance sheet composition, where the leverage ratio for both sectors stood at 0.39/0.71, respectively, whereas for the financial and manufacturing sectors, the ratio stood at 1.08/1.49, likewise as of FY24.

However, the pipeline also includes profitable entities, most notably State Life Insurance and National Insurance, both of which generate significant net income while growing at healthy rates.

While the story of losses is documented, what we often fail to grasp is how much it costs the government, and therefore the taxpayer, to keep our beloved SOEs afloat. In FY24, this support added up to Rs1.58tr, of which just under two-thirds was directed towards the power sector to offset tariff shortfalls and sustain distribution companies.

More than Rs780bn of the support came in the form of subsidies, while another Rs367bn were grants and Rs337.5bn in loans. Basically, the government pumped Rs1.58tr, or 12pc of its budget receipts, into these entities so they could generate lucrative losses of Rs30bn; talk about return on investments.

Disposing of these from the books will certainly free up some fiscal space, but it doesn’t really mean the remaining SOE portfolio will yield huge dividends. The transport sector is a great case in point.

Combined, Pakistan Railways and the National Highway Authority posted losses of Rs347bn in FY24 and are going to be held for the foreseeable future. Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily. Especially in the latter’s case, the task at hand is the development of critical infrastructure, which requires heavy investments and low returns. It’s essential to provide public goods, something no private sector can or will do.

Nevertheless, the privatisation drive can help delineate the state’s role better. By offloading commercial enterprises that have demonstrably failed under public management while retaining entities with public good characteristics or strategic importance, the government can move towards optimising its portfolio.

Doing so is critical to ensuring fiscal operations run smoothly, but the more important question is: will the privatisation agenda set the course for the transformation of selected sectors? Or even free it from the clutches (or crutches) of the sovereign? In the past, handing over monopolistic businesses to the private sector didn’t eliminate the need for subsidies.

Secondly, the private sector will also have to put its money where its mouth has always been and actually invest for growth, rather than turning to the same government for support in the form of subsidies, contracts, grants, and whatnot.

The writer is the co-founder of Data Darbar and works for the Karachi School of Business and Leadership
 
Last edited:
Pehle ham nay 100 jurm kiay, magr ab bauhaut time ho gaya hai, so we'll just let it go.

Same principle applies to an ex-playboy trying to become a Caliph of Riyasat e Medina, right? You know the Urdu saying about 900 mice and the cat!
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Latest Posts

Back
Top