Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder Bags Another Fighter Deal, Media Says; India’s LCA Tejas Banks On Massive IAF Contract

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Cryptonian said:
Outdated airframe ?? Delta wings with higher composite alloy % and Quad redundant FBW is more modern than What latest Jf17 variant has. Your lack of knowledge is showing. You better not speak out of your depth.
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jf17 is also outdated but they projected that plane with more moderate goals and roles for use and it is finished project, your one is still in muddy waters and with uncertain perspective. that is objective state of affairs for now.
 
mulj said:
not a cope, nice to see how you persist on futility for outdated and poorly assembled airframe, why would i cope with something which is obviously failure for you?
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The JF-17 is poor man's fighter jet, whereas the Tejas is designed to counter Pakistan's F-16s along the border, serving as the Indian Air Force's frontline aircraft in that region. Among the IAF's fleet, only the Rafales and Tejas are equipped with AESA radar from the outset.
 
mulj said:
jf17 is also outdated but they projected that plane with more moderate goals and roles for use and it is finished project, your one is still in muddy waters and with uncertain perspective. that is objective state of affairs for now.
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All modern 4th Generation fighter jets are delta wing the under development Tejas MK2 of IAF is also delta wing
 
Bhojpuranchali said:
The JF-17 is poor man's fighter jet, whereas the Tejas is designed to counter Pakistan's F-16s along the border, serving as the Indian Air Force's frontline aircraft in that region. Among the IAF's fleet, only the Rafales and Tejas are equipped with AESA radar from the outset.
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blah blah blah, imagination and bloating is free while there is fact that garbage of plane is far away of deployment in mentioned region, apparently some of your air commanders knows better and want to prevent some other potential humiliations of your air force.
 
Jaeger said:
Ok a simple question.

What parts of JF 17 were developed by Pakistan?
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Fifty-eight per cent of the JF-17 airframe, including its front fuselage, wings, and vertical stabilizer, is produced in Pakistan, whereas forty-two percent is produced in China, with the final assembly and serial production taking place in Pakistan.
Now if you consider that a less of a achievement than your tejas stands equal in its so called indigenous development. The only difference is tejas is not valued by the outside world . The way you developed it, assembled it,marketed it .It's a failure in the global arms market. While on the other hand Jf17 thunder has proven its metal. It has seen real combat ,has buyers outside PAF.
 
mulj said:
blah blah blah, imagination and bloating is free while there is fact that garbage of plane is far away of deployment in mentioned region, apparently some of your air commanders knows better and want to prevent some other potential humiliations of your air force.
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Then why did they order 180 Tejas MK1A jets at the cost of 15 billion dollars?
 
mulj said:
jf17 is also outdated but they projected that plane with more moderate goals and roles for use and it is finished project, your one is still in muddy waters and with uncertain perspective. that is objective state of affairs for now.
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Not in muddy waters. It will come as mature platform out of the box with AESA radar, refuelling probe, jammers and BVR capability. India will achieve its objective of Mig21 replacement + cost efficient + good numbers in western front.
 
mulj said:
jf17 is also outdated but they projected that plane with more moderate goals and roles for use and it is finished project, your one is still in muddy waters and with uncertain perspective. that is objective state of affairs for now.
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Just cause JF17 dose not have it dose not means LCA Tejas wont have it

JF17 in its BLK III verssion is trying to get what LCA is bieng tested and perfected since its first flight with and thats its body made of 40% carbon Composites with 90% skin area made of carbon composities and DIGITAL qudrapell Fly By Wire with "relaxed static stability" for enhanced manoeuvrability and agility.

besides that LCA even in its MK1 format has all those HOBS capabilities and onboard EW and self protection suites that JF17 BLK III is now trying to get while LCA is already tested for over 4500 flying hours and tested and retestyed on them in all kinds of day and night and weathers in all kinds of altituted to perfect them and now has the third verssion with next gen mission compouters and softwares which were recently updated on MK1A verssion and after testing will be handed over to IAF

HAL already can make 18 fighters per year in three assembally lines it has and with two private players to be cleared also in for production that number will grow very fast ... sure initally we indians take owr own time but once we are set in comfortablly we have had always made things at very fast pace with least minnimum of recources and thats why all multinationals are linning to invest in india and its manufactring & service oriented industries
 
Cryptonian said:
Not in muddy waters. It will come as mature platform out of the box with AESA radar, refuelling probe, jammers and BVR capability. India will achieve its objective of Mig21 replacement + cost efficient + good numbers in western front.
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good for you, decade after pakistan did that.
 
SecularNationalist said:
Fifty-eight per cent of the JF-17 airframe, including its front fuselage, wings, and vertical stabilizer, is produced in Pakistan, whereas forty-two percent is produced in China, with the final assembly and serial production taking place in Pakistan.
Now if you consider that a less of a achievement than your tejas stands equal in its so called indigenous development. The only difference is tejas is not valued by the outside world . The way you developed it, assembled it,marketed it .It's a failure in the global arms market. While on the other hand Jf17 thunder has proven its metal. It has seen real combat ,has buyers outside PAF.
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What real combat ?? Dropping bombs from within Pakistani airspace , or shooting down slow and puny unarmed drone ?
 
Guru Dutt said:
Just cause JF17 dose not have it dose not means LCA Tejas wont have it

JF17 in its BLK III verssion is trying to get what LCA is bieng tested and perfected since its first flight with and thats its body made of 40% carbon Composites with 90% skin area made of carbon composities and DIGITAL qudrapell Fly By Wire with "relaxed static stability" for enhanced manoeuvrability and agility.

besides that LCA even in its MK1 format has all those HOBS capabilities and onboard EW and self protection suites that JF17 BLK III is now trying to get while LCA is already tested for over 4500 flying hours and tested and retestyed on them in all kinds of day and night and weathers in all kinds of altituted to perfect them and now has the third verssion with next gen mission compouters and softwares which were recently updated on MK1A verssion and after testing will be handed over to IAF

HAL already can make 18 fighters per year in three assembally lines it has and with two private players to be cleared also in for production that number will grow very fast ... sure initally we indians take owr own time but once we are set in comfortablly we have had always made things at very fast pace with least minnimum of recources and thats why all multinationals are linning to invest in india and its manufactring & service oriented industries
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all marketing points without any merit in field, so far you produced only 40 or so of that plane.
 
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